• irelephant 🍭@lemm.ee
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    If they can afford to pay for sponsorships and ads, and need to pay for sponsorships and ads, they’re likely untrustworthy.

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    Nothing feels worse than seeing ads for shit you’ve already got, too. That’s when you know you’ve fucked up

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      yeah, the best time to advertise at me about a thing is while I’m researching thing to buy.

      Advertising at me after I bought the thing is useless, I already bought it!

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        It does have a purpose. I found the name of it once, but it’s basically choice confirmation. When you buy something and then shortly after see lots of ads of other people who bought the same thing and are really happy with it/it appears popular, it confirms to you that you made the right choice and should make it again if given the chance. This kind of “confirmation after the fact” advertising is especially used in larger purchases like a car. It reinforces the choice you made in your mind so you feel more satisfied with the brand itself.

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          except i usually get ads for a thing that’s both more expensive and worse for my use case than the one I bought.

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          I actually appreciate this, even knowing how it works. After a big purchase I tend to be conflicted about it having spent that much money. I like to have it be confirmed that I made the right choice, even if I know it’s just manipulation. 😅

          Like, recently I bought a BambuLab P1S 3D printer (with the multi-material combo). I did my research, knew it was an excellent value for money. I knew the competing options were not worth the added features for the higher cost, or the reduction in features for the savings. It was basically exactly what I wanted at a good price point.

          And yet every time I see a suggested YouTube video recommending that printer, or an ad talking about what a good value it is, I get this little happy dopamine burst for having made a good choice.

              • NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                There was a few big dumb moves they recently made involving the next fw update, a new piece of “security” software that was supposed to sign all connections to the printer and would prevent 3rd party slicers etc from connecting, and then gaslighting everyone by redacting statements previously made on their website about it. It’s dumb, anti-consumer, and pissed off a community that’s pretty much made up of giant nerds with the smarts to call them out on the bullshit.

                There’s about a billion videos about it, but the one from Zach Freedman sums it up best without blowing it out of proportion IMO.

                But yeah, it was reason #187 I ordered a CORE One from Prusa at a much higher price vs BL models for my next printer.

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                  Hey, totally fair. I was looking at the CORE One, looks like an awesome printer! And a buddy of mine has a Voron he loves.

                  I’m not overly concerned, I’m not enough of a hobbyist to bother with alternate slicers or firmware or anything like that yet. Maybe someday I’ll get there. For now I’m just going to be thrilled to have an enclosed multi-material printer for under a grand. 😅

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            Lol nah I feel you. If it makes you feel any better, I have an A1 and a X1C. Love them both. Had an Ender before and hated it. Some guy was printing a life sized T-Rex and his recommendation is what pushed me over the edge. Haven’t regretted it.

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              Had an Ender before and hated it.

              I had a Maker Select Plus (i3 clone) and it was great…but extremely limited. I’m really looking forward to what I can do with an enclosed printer that doesn’t sling the bed around for the Y axis.

              Some guy was printing a life sized T-Rex and his recommendation is what pushed me over the edge. Haven’t regretted it.

              Damn. Lots of printing in pieces and then acetone fusing to get the parts together? Or glue? Sounds like an awesome project.

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                As for my ender: the quality control isn’t great. Sometimes you get a bad one and I think that was most of my issue. It had a nasty habit of diving straight into the heat bed. Might’ve been the autoleveler… I dunno. I just know I spent more time tinkering with the printer itself than actually printing. With my Bambus it really is “set it and forget it” for the most part.

                As for the dino: Lots of bondo and glue, yes lol. I’ll see if I can find it later. It’s on makerworld and you can find it in the Bambu app as well if you search around. He mentioned how much faster it was to print the pieces on his Bambu vs his ender and with the multicolor support, I was sold. My X1C currently runs 2 AMS so I rarely have to swap colors out too.

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      This is me when I see mullvad ads on the subway. Still think they are a great product but I’m starting to question their marketing.

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          There are other comments here talking about Nord vs Mull and as someone who just bought one I hope I made the right choice

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            I’m happy so far, my only cause for complaint is that they advertise at all - not necessarily a reasonable complaint perhaps.

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      also also, firefox on android supports extensions. never go anywhere without ublock origin and sponsorblock.

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            Do you have microg integration set up? Usually the root cause of issues when something there is broken from my experience, assuming you have stable from the official revanced manager.

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            I’ve used it for couple years and it has never broken so I don’t understand what you are doing with it

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            Huh, weird. I think I’ve only had to reinstall it once since Vanced died and I switched to ReVanced.

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            How exactly does it break for you? I use vanced and then revances constantly since the day one of its existence, and don’t remember it breaking once.

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          Newpipe > revanced IMO. Newpipe also supports a few other media streaming services outside of youtube, and when stuff breaks due to google interference they usually have a fix out within a few days.

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            The problem with NewPipe is that it breaks the YouTube experience. ReVanced lets you use your YouTube account to get all the normal YouTube functionality such as liking and commenting, viewing your subscriptions (including syncing if you make a change) and, most importantly, syncing playlists such as the Watch Later playlist.

            I’ve only had ReVanced break once since I started using it, way back when Vanced first died. So I don’t consider the “stuff breaks” element to be especially relevant.

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              Yeah that’s a fair point. I use newpipe specifically to get away from the youtube experience and keep only the videos. Newpipe does let you create local playlists and subscriptions that live only in the app, which I do utilize a bit.

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        If you’re on android I’d recommend viewing youtube videos through newpipe as it strips out everything except for the stream. Only downside is that it doesn’t have replacement functionality for sponsorblock.

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          I’ve tried newpipe, but it won’t work if my phone is connected to wifi, no idea why.

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        Express is, okay for what it is.

        Nord though is hiding behind the word “Nord”. It’s not even a Nordic company. It’s based in British virgin islands just like Surfshark

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    Huh, this company is spending a lot of money on marketing. Guess I’ll buy from a company doing less marketing so I’ll get it cheaper.

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      Or that is so good, they don’t need anything more than word of mouth. And I mean real word of mouth, not the fake influencer shilling that relies on parasocial relationships “word of mouth”

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      I watched a review of raid shadow legends a while ago, and was unsurprising to see it was a very uninteresting game

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      The funniest thing was when Alec Steele (blacksmithing/metal working YouTuber) did a Raid ad. Him following their standard script was ridiculous

      His phone he played the game on had a cracked screen

      It really showed me not to believe any of his ads in particular

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      Especially if it’s a free to play game

      That just tells me “you will definitely spend money to get what you’re looking for in this game”

      No fucking thanks

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      I have seen Proton as a sponsor once or twice and I don’t have any complains about the products they are selling.

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        The “privacy” service that gobbled on orange fascist knob from Switzerland? With their public accounts?

        Yeah. Nothing sketchy behind that choice.

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          I truly don’t know how someone could continue to trust a privacy focused company that was explicitly pro any leader.

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          Them being an absolute moron hasn’t affected the product for me or my experience with the rest of the company.

          If I would stop using any and old company that had some bullshit owner, some bullshit thing done in the past or done currently I would basically have nothing I can use. The moment the opionins of him will start to impact the product I am out, but considering there is a foundation above the company which means he has a limited amount of impact I will wait and see before I act.

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            The problem with this logic is that it can be impacting the product without you being aware, especially security and disclosure aspects.

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              Luckly for us there are laws and other security measures in place to help prevent it. At least Proton is under a loop now, other options are probably just as bad but we don’t know about it

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                there are laws

                Ahahah. Oh wait, you’re serious, let me laugh even harder

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    This is partly why I don’t trust Ground News. They’re putting way too much money into advertising for me to believe they’re genuinely interested in providing an unbiased factual categorization of news sources.

    I also simply don’t believe it’s possible to be unbiased, so anyone claiming to be is immediately suspect to me.

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      They also reinforce seeing liberal and conservative as opposites. The only good service they have is showing who sponsors which sources. However, the whole “blindspot” system seems designed as a both-sidesism

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        Exactly! It’s really disheartening to me to see so many youtubers who are otherwise insightful be so uncritically supportive of Ground News because they “like what they’re trying to do.”

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      Is it perfect? no but it is the best way to be able to read the news from multiple POVs. They also include every single news outlet I’ve ever heard of and then some

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        I get that it offers a bunch of features that you can’t get anywhere else, but I just can’t shake the uneasy feeling that it’s all a trojan horse for something more sinister. I’m just waiting for the other shoe to drop and see it suddenly explode in controversy after someone exposes something not quite kosher going on under the surface.

        It’s just too good to be true.

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        I mean I get my news here on Lemmy and from other individuals on lotteries social media. I think awareness of local and world events no longer needs to be meditated through a news organization. As long as you don’t sit in an echo chamber and have some level of literacy it’s not too hard to stay up to date.

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      I heard about it, downloaded it, tried it. Then i googled for other coupons and found a better one. Deleted Honey right away for being shit.

      Im surprised so many people would just trust the app immediately and not try to see if there were better coupons.

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        Maybe I’m just bad or slow at queries but I almost never found working coupons when I’m ready to purchase. When I used to have honey (when it somewhat worked), I got a few token percentage off compared to entering codes that were expired or otherwise no longer valid.

        Granted, once Honey moved to a rewards based model I dipped out since something didn’t sit right with me about it.

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          Yeah same experience here. Googling for a code at best gets me the promotions already happening on the retail site with the code sites affiliate link.

          It may be because when I’m looking for codes I’m already buying high price low margin products like TVs.

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        I tried it but never got coupons, so I made 10$ in honey gold, then I forgot about it until I saw the controversy

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        Most people are lazy, or don’t even come up with the idea to do a web search. When they do, most non-techies don’t know or struggle to write an effective search query

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        Same thing here. I’ve been using “everything” for long enough to know not to trust… anything… an app is going to get the best discount available for me? Yeah, we’ll just see about that. I just wasnt ever going to not search for coupons myself, so I removed it.

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    I have a rule if they sponsor on multiple youtubers they are probably a scam and avoid. If i find the service interesting i search up alternatives that spend their money better

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      yeah, the only good sponsorships are the sponsors of small niche channels, like a lens sponsorship on a photography channel.

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    I feel this way about Aura. They’ll stop other companies from using your personal data but do they ever say they won’t use it?

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      This is what I hate about that whole model. Are they just trying to insert themselves as a middle man?

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      You can check the privacy statement.

      But considering it’s an American company I can tell you that it will abuse your data

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      I think it’s safe to presume they are trying to capture all of the value of your data.

      They are certainly selling whatever data they collect, unless they’re making their own advertising service

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    Only advertised product I’ve ever spent money on is NordVPN which is fine for my use case - avoiding geoblocking a couple of times a week. Probably switching to Mullvad soon though, because American companies can eat dirt.

    But yeah, honey was always super sus. If something seems “too good to be true”, maybe it is.

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      Funny to me because I can’t recall the last time I ever saw a Mullvad ad but they had their little mole guy plastered over a bus in my (American) city. Thought it was cute and quirky because I doubt 80% of the people in my area even know what a VPN is. Better than the usual lame ads like for lawyers or health insurance.