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    Bizarre that we still have people even on here still defending this clown after all the flat out reactionary trash opinions he has spouted over the years. Just because he’s right about something once in a while doesn’t change the fact that he’s an unserious person who loves to cause drama and be an asshole, and then argues in bad faith. That’s without even mentioning his history of transphobia.

    Maybe we should bring back the Hexbear purges. These parasocial relationships with streamers truly is a 12th type of liberalism.

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      There are a total of two people defending BE in this thread so far, one of whom is a .ml user, with a total of maybe 20 upvotes. Saying that this is an actual issue that requires purges is unserious.

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        I wasn’t referring to this post. People frequently defend him on the site whenever he’s brought up. And yes, those who constantly defend reactionary and transphobic streamers even when confronted with the facts definitely deserve to be purged. I couldn’t give a shit if you think it makes me unserious.

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      Calling a trans person a dog fucker for posting a video pointing out the very real racist underpinnings of pitbull hysteria that has been going on since the fucking 90s and is apparently seeing a resurgeance now is so fucking disgusting given his past of transphobia and other reactionary tendencies. And yet still this fucker gets defended on occasion even here. Also this video was apparently posted here and a bunch of the responses were very concerning and reactionary there too.

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        As someone who has lurked on 4chan, I remember seeing dog-fucker as a stereotyping of white women.

        This one might be trans-inclusive misogyny and not transphobia.

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        I found his video responding to it rather good, and I’m not sure what them being trans has anything to do anything with the insult “dog fucker”.

        Is there any evidence that he’s transphobic and reactionary as well? From what I’ve seen, that kind of accusation has just turned out to be satiric Twitter ragebait that people on r/tankiejerk took a little too literally.

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          Trans people are constantly insinuated as being sexual deviants, groomers, etc.

          He’s also just a hypocritical white guy living in Argentina while getting big streamer money and doing nothing of material value to help any of the people he claims to advocate for.

          He has a long history of reactionary takes as well but I really don’t give enough of a shit about him to go dig them up for you.

          Also not going to watch that video because I already know exactly the reactionary response is going to be “it’s not racist YOU’RE racist for comparing non-white people to animals” when the opposite is the point of the video he is responding to. Racists use “pitbull” statistics to sneak racist eugenicist evopsych pseudoscience into the public consciousness and it has been going on for over 30 years at least.

          I am old enough to remember the more overtly racist pitbull hysteria of the 90s. Breed specific legislation is often pushed because people perceive pitbulls to be majority owned by non-white people and furthermore are more likely to identify any dog as a “pitbull” if its owner is not white.

          Dead Domain’s response sums it up quite succinctly and confirms my suspicion:

          Fuck BE I hope the Argentinian libertarian goon squads raid him for not being reactionary enough.

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            He removed that tweet shortly after. Not saying that it was good to say that in the first place, but if somebody said something as repulsive and disgusting as “Palestine is a nazi theological terrorist state. You are literally far-right” to me, I personally would be saying some shit out of 4chan as well.

            Trans people are constantly insinuated as being sexual deviants, groomers, etc.

            I really don’t think this is an example of that, as the insult would fit for anyone not trans as well. He also called Vaush a zoophilic pedophile, so this stuff isn’t something he specifically calls trans people. He has also spoken out about trans people on multiple videos, with this being a good example.

            Also not going to watch that video because I already know exactly the reactionary response is going to be “it’s not racist YOU’RE racist for comparing non-white people to animals”

            It isn’t.

            Fuck BE I hope the Argentinian libertarian goon squads raid him for not being reactionary enough.

            Would you like to give me something reactionary that he said?

            spoiler

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            He actually went to Cuba and helped homeless people on stream, donated money and literally kept in touch with them after the fact to make sure they were good

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            Full racist my ass, he was attacking FD Signifier for being a giant Zionist. Saying a government is owned by Zionists is not neo-nazi lingo lmao

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              FD pointing out that a Australian breadtube expat living off the exchange rate in Argentine lifting terms verbatim out of the Turner Diaries, will never be anything other than the definition of wrecker bullshit is not FD being “a giant Zionist”

              And as we all know, cracking jokes about a Black mans hair is a fine way to defend this apparently vital strategy of utilizing the Turner Diaries for pro-Palestinian activism…all the way from Argentina, yes this is serious and totally not racist behavior

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                Who cares where he lives. FD is uneducated on Palestine at best and is a giant Zionist at worst. BE exposed that. And he made jokes on his hair? Like this is ultimately more important that FD making excuses for genocide. Get that shit out of here.

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                  I’d take FD’s half-educated self over your red/brown advocating nazbol cult leader anytime, FD is an old man who converged on the correct positions through honest means, BE is a nihilistic grifter who thinks his online faux-radicalism gives him permission to engage in transphobic and racist behavior

                  Also you’re rancid for pretending a rejection of the Turner Diaries as a resource is genocide-denial, fed posting par excellence

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              “Idk guys, when I said the problem of Israel requires a ‘Final Solution,’ I was just being antizionist and I don’t get why you’d balk at it. It needs to be solved and clearly it should be solved permanently, right? No, I have no idea how language works.”

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            The supposed neo-nazi lingo being “Zionist Occupied Government (ZOG)”, and him attacking “black hair” being him insulting the guy’s hairline, essentially clapping back on F.D. Signifier’s own insult.

            Is the name Ebenezer antisemitic?

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              First off, ZOG is totally Nazi, I actually expect you to get banned from Hexbear for that comment. But let’s engage with the fascist gaslighting you just did.

              “What? Calling black people “Negros” isn’t racist! It just means black in Spanish. Typical leftists seeing bigotry when there is none there”

              “What? Laws protecting watermelon farms after slavery ended? Those were just laws on not stealing watermelon, where’s the discrimination? The looney left making a mountain out of a molehill yet again”

              “What? Sleeping with the fishes? That sounds fantastic! I thought riding the dolphins was cool, but getting to sleep next to one is next level!”

              If you are so socially inept that you can’t understand that how terms are used in function matters more than what the dictionary says, then you have less social awareness than someone with level 2 autism. I may take things that literally in practice, but at least I understand the idea behind figures of speech and social definitions

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                If you are so socially inept that you can’t understand that how terms are used in function matters more than what the dictionary says…

                So, here, nobody is using ZOG as a Nazi dogwhistle. In function, it is accurately used to describe how western governments are controlled by Zionists (hence the name, Zionist Occupied Government).

                I’ve literally fucking seen Professor Dave use this. Nowhere else have I seen this used as a Nazi dogwhistle. Keep on dogpiling though 🤷‍♀️

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                  eh. it was coined by neo nazis in the 70s. a lot of people either never knew that or seem to have forgotten it. i’ve had to explain it several times since Oct 7th 2023 because Israel finally getting the negative attention it has always deserved has resulted in a lot of people dragging out “ZOG” either because they’ve been fooled into thinking it’s an innocent anti-zionist term with no historical baggage, or that they can reclaim it from neo nazis, or that it doesn’t matter because it’s “accurate” or because they’re actually neo nazis taking advantage of the increased anti-zionist sentiment.

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              Yes, BE’s theory that we’re “owning” the zionists by rehabilitating the Turner Diaries

              Also speak more on FD Signifier’s “hairline” Dreamy, I want to hear your full thoughts on the matter

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                If you think that ZOG is antisemitic, then I genuinely don’t have any words for you 😂

                Also speak more on FD Signifier’s “hairline” Dreamy, I want to hear your full thoughts on the matter

                Insulting someone for their looks, then after getting insulted back crying about supposed “racism” is a pretty good tactic ngl.

                “BE is Greek. I would really love to hear IDF Signifier’s full thoughts on how he looks like a ‘methhead’.”

                Grow a fucking brain.

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                  ZOG is literally a term coined by a member of a white nationalist movement that was explicitly pro Nazi.

                  Meathead is a term that has nothing at all to do with looks.

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                  ZOG is only used by nazis. Period.

                  I swear to Satan that within the year “anti”-zionists like you will be saying that the Jewish Internet Defense Force are behind every post that isn’t sufficiently antisemitic.

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                  I mean what can be said when this is the state of his fanbase, the Turner Diaries are apparently a vital tool in the fight against zionism, excellent politics, very useful fedposting

                  And sure fuck FD for being respectful, patient, and accommodating for the first 40 mins while that Austrian goblin rants at him about the necessity of a red/brown alliance, no FD cracking and a making quip is a valid permission structure for a cracker to start yapping about a Black mans hair huh? Hey HE’S GREEK THO

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              The supposed neo-nazi lingo being “Zionist Occupied Government (ZOG)”,

              What is your argument? It was coined by Nazis, is used overwhelmingly by Nazis, and exists as part of a broader malicious representation of Israel and the “World Jewry” simply controlling governments rather than the reality of the imperialist bourgeoisie benefitting geopolitically from Israel and therefore supporting them.

              It’s a very clear example of Nazis trying to hijack antizionism for the purpose of antisemitism and their race war ideology.

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                  If you continue to use or defend the term ZOG, you will be banned. We do not talk like Nazis here. Consider this your warning.

                  I believe that you are fully capable of understanding the historical context behind ZOG. You think you just fell out of a coconut tree?

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                  Yeah, and let’s also “reclaim” racial slurs by just using them oblivious to the actual social context of the terms. Come the fuck on.

                  So don’t let them take over accurate terms like this?

                  First of all they coined it, so they aren’t taking it over, secondly it is inaccurate because the government is not zionist-occupied, it is natively zionist. The term in its most direct denotative sense is already predicated on a whitewashing of the Nation and attacking Israel on the basis of being a foreign “other” rather than a genocidal appendage of the very same empire.

                  This is an absurd hill to die on. Just admit that it’s a bad term to use and go for trying to minimize the significance of someone’s choice to use it. I would still disagree but that’s a place where there’s a trace of actual discussion and not just you sticking your fingers in your ears.

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                  So do you believe that the US government is secretly controlled by jews that are conspiring to eliminate the white race? Because that is what the term was coined to describe.

                  If you think that is accurate you can fuck right off.

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    Blocking everybody in this thread that defends BadEmpanada. Y’all could not waterboard the things y’all are saying out of me. Especially knowing how much of this site is trans. Not saying this is going to happen, but I really wouldn’t be surprised by BE fans being shown the door here.

    Y’all are proving all I have to do is get two things right in my entire life and I’ll have an army of people who can’t think besides for listening to talking heads. Criticizing people who do it with mainstream media and turning around to listen to some midwit Rick and Morty fan to replace the people on the news. The types that would watch Vaush if it were socially acceptable, they just want to feel superior over other people, something inherently incompatible with leftism.

    Y’all are just Gamergate slop consumers with a leftist aesthetic. If these people could actually think for themselves, they wouldn’t feel the need to defend someone like BadEmpanada whose a blatant reactionary piece of shit and likely a sex pest if he didn’t do their thinking for them. One day they’ll just become more and more dependent until they need a streamer to chew their food for them, spit it in their mouth, then rate the food.

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    Being constantly told you are wrong because you are a leftist does not mean you must indulge every contrarian impulse as if it proves you are right and/or leftist while doing so

    Damn I just typed this fuckin clown’s life story.

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      Unfortunately apparently this video got posted here when it first came out and of course a bunch of people on this site are super reactionary when it comes to pitbulls.

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        Eh I’m of two minds on it.

        On one hand yeah I think targeting pitts specifically is driven by racism. On the other hand I do think poorly train big strong dogs are dangerous, I say this as a dog lover. I’ve seen some people with really poorly trained big dogs who don’t seem to know their own strength, I nearly got knocked over by one once, he wasn’t even attack me he was just trying to say high but damn near put me on the ground.

        Idk what law you could have about it that wouldn’t be abused, like mandatory training for bigger dog owners or something but again you have potential discriminatory issues there.

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              No you’re fine and idk why @orlando@hexbear.net responded that way. I also cannot think of any legislation that would not (I assume you meant wouldn’t not would) be abused but legislating by breed is inherently unscientific since all large breeds and even small ones are capable of causing injury.

              In fact, I’ve had way more small dogs try to bite me due to poor socializing and lack of discipline on the owners part than big dogs because they are physically less dangerous than big dogs.

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                Yeah that was a typo on my part.

                While it’s true even a smaller dog can give you a nasty bite, a bigger dog is more likely to pin you down, which I’m more scared of. With a smaller dog I or the owner have a better chance of wrestling them off me.

                I do think if you own any dog you are obligated to train it, if not legally than at least socially. Honestly it sucks for the dogs too cuz if they bite someone they may end up getting put down.

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                Yeah the fact of the matter is that plenty of dogs attack / bite, but pit bull attacks seem to have a higher ceiling for damage and cause a shit ton more fatalities than any other breed.

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                  They are no more dangerous than any other dog of similar size. You don’t see this kind of hate for German Shepherds for example. It is very well documented this specific thing is about racism. Or you could, you know, watch the video?

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                i can answer for my response. it seemed to be a kind of diversion from the racism in question is see all over the place now that i know what to look for, “yeah their overall point is wrong/bad and that’s fine and all but i think there really is a problem with [x] and here’s a detailed explanation” and it just plays straight into the fascists hands.

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                  Right and let’s say a fascist thinks we should limit the purchase of large SUVs / Pickups because people might weaponize them in terrorist attacks. Are we supposed to start defendind large SUVs / Pickups just to make sure we share no common ground with a fascist? Despite the fact that these large SUVs / Pickups are so big only to skirt around emissions regulations and are exceedingly dangerous to pedestrians?

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    I mean if you believe that certain dog breeds are inherently dangerous, it’s not much of a jump to also believe the same about people too, and I mean by that no leftist should subscribe to this type of thought.

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      Yes and that is the exact point of all the anti-pitbull hysteria. They cite unscientific statistics in the exact same way crime statistics are used to imply black people are just inherently violent. It’s honestly shocking that people that should be able to recognize this are not seeing it or choosing not to.

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    I kinda hate all large dogs cause no one properly disciplines the dog and they’re always a potential powderkeg that can rip a kid’s face off. Some old lady near us was mauled to death some years back by some guy who lets his two big dogs out to poop with no leash or supervision.

    Stick to corgis and indoor cats. shrug-outta-hecks

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      NazEmpanada has always been like this he just got worse the more he started to get called out on it. He’s always been a reactionary and a contrarian and all of his correct takes were just a result of that.

      The embodiment of the broken clock phenomenon.