Dont let them google “sinosphere” they will get an aneurysm
Every part of China in this image that he claims is “not really China” has more age and legitimacy as being part of China than the United States where Noah resides and nationalistically simps for has legitimacy to exist at all.
Optimistically, most of the comments to this were pointing that out.
Pessimistically, I looked at twitter comments to learn that.
“New china” is new by the standards of china. it’s been han, and chinese-speaking, since longer than many european countries have been whatever they think they are (england being “english”, spain being “spanish”, etc.).
the basis for this whole thing seem to be historic government control rather than culture or ethnicity or history?
actually someone should make a similar map for europe, it would be funny and make a lot of dorks really angry. the longer somewhere has been controlled by rome or one of its supposed successors, the more “european” it is.
- Rome, Greece, Istanbul: Old Europe.
- Levant, Northern Italy, Moscow, Balkans: New Europe.
- Spain, France, British Isles, Germany, Austria: Sort of Europe
- Scandinavia, Netherlands, Poland: Not really Europe
edit: Balkans deserve to be in the category of New Europe, they’re more european than Germany
edit 2: I’m pooosting
New China means its 2000 years old instead of the usual 4000, its like how the new kingdom of egypt is 3000 years old
New City in south Italy exist for like 2500 years. In Czechia there are twin towns of Old Boleslav and New Boleslav, which were founded few years apart, but it was over a thousand years ago.
Novgorod is one of the oldest cities in Russia and its name literally means “New city”.
Europe is pretty much Superior Iberia. Actual Iberia is Real Iberia ie royal Iberia, UK is Isleberia, all of Germany+NL+Scandinavia is Supercracker Iberia, anything east of that is Iberiovska or barely Iberia.
North Africa is Araberia
italy is iberia minor, france is iberia alta, poland is iberia borea
“iberia borea” is a very funny set of syllables
Forgot about Italy and France. I like iberia minor for Italy. France is Punished Iberia
I’m Arabering all over the place
istria is old europe, you heathen
fake, they built istria in 2010 to film game of thrones
do a map like this for the US boss
the color scheme on this is crazy, a light color for 1000 years of habitation?? lmfao many european languages havent even existed that long
Yeah, imagine putting countries like America, Canada, and Australia together with this in a chart. I get the feeling it would change the color gradient of the entire image, like a form of white balancing.
If 100-200 years is negligible then what does it mean for Ukraine Noah
Good point. I watched the events leading to the creation of the Ukrainian state on live color TV.
There is something really wrong with this guy. He once posted a strange “white woman who only dates indian men” meme. The orientals are on his mind 24/7.
Always confuses me when I see that. It would take these guys way less time, effort and energy to just not be a racist shithead, they could actually go and accomplish something with themselves instead of complaining about
all day. It just seems like a massive waste of time to me, even putting aside how gross and foul these people are.
using years controlled as the benchmark
cool now do that map for America
This is like saying that India should be balkanized because southern India speaks a different family of languages
Balkanize every country to heighten the contradictions of borders.
Every part of China in this map is claimed by Taiwan.
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Wouldn’t say so, Taiwan’s territorial claims are basically China’s + even more territory as well as the South China Sea. It just adds to the farce of it all.
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Yes, that is indeed what I said. Essentially, Taiwan hasn’t been in a position to negotiate any land claims since it hasn’t been in charge. It also can’t and won’t unilaterally let go of any of those claims - either because of the status quo or because they also have assets in the South China Sea.
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Genuinely, that’s sorta what will happen when they reunite. They’ve constantly said they’ll continue the one country, two systems rule and let it remain capitalist, with some interference to make things better overall.
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Ming tribuaries/satellite states instead of direct rule, so Vietnam and Korea had their own kings/rulers and their own laws but paid taxes to the Ming emperor and in return gain protection.
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I wonder what this guy’s thoughts on
isImagine having an American AND Ukrainian flag in your bio and posting this drivel.
Noahpinion? I sure wish he had no opinion.
also https://xcancel.com/Noahpinion/status/2012067504193994849
“sort of china” is one of the most centrist millennial phrases to be cooked up
I am sure these people are chomping at the bit for land back in the USA then. Principles are so important after all.
now do not really amerikkka by that criterion
