• purpleworm [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    5 months ago

    Conservatives turning on 1984 is among the most baffling shifts against a book that I can imagine short of them explicitly throwing out a book of the Bible.

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        The only people who misunderstand George Orwell’s 1984 are those that go around trying to imagine it has a leftist message. It is mistaken to imagine that children in the English-speaking world get his work drilled into them like a mantra because, somehow, genuine socialists managed to sneak his work past a censor that banishes the likes of Karl Marx and Malcolm X.

        The less complicated reading is the correct one: it’s an anti-communist book that the establishment pushes, and the right adores and cites constantly, because it is effective anti-communist propaganda.

        from https://redsails.org/on-orwell/

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        I think Animal Farm and 1984 are worth recommending, if you’re willing to dig into the Trot/ML debates that heavily informed those two books.

        Absolute left anticommunism hours. The book Winston reads in 1984 describes all of the superstates as “Oligarchal Collectivism” for fuck’s sake, which is an obvious reference to Trotsky’s theory of “Bureaucratic Collectivism”.

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        That’s why I said “explicit”. They certainly toss out more than just a book’s worth all the time, but the closest they get to being explicit about it is selectively ignoring the Old Testament because of Christ ushering in a “New Covenant”

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    Fucking hell, how do you put The Lorax on there and not have a ‘are we the baddies?’ moment? Though for USians I suppose it’s always just ‘are we getting paid enough for being the baddies?’

    And even then, it’s not even accurate: “pro-violence?” How? The lorax never even threatens violence, meanwhile the onceler rolls up in this thing:

    Unless they’re trying to say the book implies a call to violence since talking is ineffective at preventing capital from destroying the planet phoenix-think

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    Johnny Got His Gun is pretty sick in all the right ways, highly recommended for my comrades if you’ve never heard if it.

    a couple of kickass passages

    It will be you. It will be you—you who urge us on to battle, you who incite us against ourselves, you who would have one cobbler kill another cobbler, you who would have one man who works kill another man who works, you who would have one human being who wants only to live kill another human being who wants only to live. Remember this. Remember this well you people who plan for war. Remember this you patriots, you fierce ones, you spawners of hate, you inventors of slogans. Remember this as you have never remembered anything else in your lives.

    Put the guns into our hands and we will use them. Give us the slogans and we will turn them into reality. Sing the battle hymns and we will take them up where you left off. Not one not ten not ten thousand not a million not ten millions not a hundred millions but a billion two billions of us all the people of the world we will have the slogans and we will have the hymns and we will have the guns and we will use them and we will live. Make no mistake of it we will live. We will be alive and we will walk and talk and eat and sing and laugh and feel and love and bear our children in tranquility and security in decency in peace. You plan the wars, you masters of men, plan the wars and point the way and we will point the gun.

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      5 months ago

      At some point, they’re gonna try to ban people from playing the Wolfenstein games, because “political violence is never the solution to a disagreement! You can disagree with Nazis without needing to kill them!”

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        5 months ago

        Not far fetched at all considering the Twitter backlash from certain people over the most recent game. Apparently they managed to miss the 30-year history of this series and how it was always about killing Nazis.

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          Wait, really? People got mad that the objective of the latest Wolfenstein game is to kill Nazis?! That’s like… basically all Wolfenstein ever was! Except, y’know, when the first one came out, a majority of Americans thought the Nazis were bad, that has shifted, I can believe if the Wolfenstein universe didn’t exist yet, and the original Wolfenstein came out today, it’d trigger a social media meltdown by mask-off “conservative” fascists and “marketplace of ideas” libs alike. The point of a “kill Nazis” game is to have a bad guy that absolutely everyone can agree is irredeemably evil and therefore not offensive to depict as such…

          Yeep. Getting off Twitter when You-Know-Who bought it was a good decision on my part. By all accounts, that place is crank central.

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      Bit idea: teaching children the wrong gender roles on purpose, as a joke. Like we tell boys it’s manly to always eat facing away from the table with your plate in your lap and girls should eat from a place with the highest viewpoint where they have 360° vision at all times?