ChestRockwell [comrade/them, any]

  • 61 Posts
  • 989 Comments
Joined 6 years ago
cake
Cake day: July 29th, 2020

help-circle

  • Yep. If we were in a society where that compromise were possible, maybe there might be value in having the conversation and (I use this intentionally) sacrificing the kids who want to play sports for everyone else.

    But we live in a world where any capitulation to fascists on these issues simply opens the door to the next precarious group to be persecuted. So like you said, there’s no poini in giving an inch.

    I sometimes wonder how much of this is liberals believing that they live in the past where their opposition was less “spiritually” fascist (I.e. in the past they did the work to launder their fascism through the filter of liberalism writ large). I don’t know - never lived through the 70s and 80s, I’ve only known the right wing lunatics - but maybe there’s some west wing brain going on here …


  • That’s the funny thing right? I’m not going to say it would be moral to say “ok no trans ppl in sports but every other trans issue we win on” - I think total victory is the best strategy - but that would at least be something without an obvious answer. Would it worth sacrificing the very few trans kids who want to play sports for the broader community? It’s not a comfortable question (and my voice wouldn’t matter in it) but there’s a real question there if every other trans issue was accepted, then maybe it’s worth the retreat on sports.

    BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT IS ON OFFER. There’s no exchange for the trans sports issue. It’s not like there’s a compromise where right wing freaks lay off social transitioning in return or quit screaming about minors transitioning in general. What pisses me off so much is capitulation on the sports issue wins liberals nothing. It doesn’t actually protect people, it really just ratchet effects the issue in the worst way possible.

    I should say, I’m not trans myself so this is just my perspective as a leftist in solidarity with our trans comrades, but it’s like maddening to see capitulation to right wing framing for zero return



















  • Just to be a bit of a devil’s advocate, there’s value in broadening cultural horizons. As an example: I love me some anime and cartoons, and while they are not as stigmatized as when I was younger, they are often associated as childish.

    However, I’m a grown ass millennial and have also watched The Seventh Seal and other “adult” films.

    I think if you never bother to try other genres, texts, etc that’s not good even if you are hyper fixated.

    This is, I think, also why the Harry Potter ppl must be disciplined even beyond the politics. If you haven’t bothered to go beyond the things you read in your youth, you’re not growing as a reader. You can have affection, nostalgia, love, etc. but part of being an adult is recognizing that those things are limited because of the youthful audience and leave things out of their stories that are enjoyable to experience.

    Tldr enjoy what you like but if you only consume YA fiction (or insert thing here - anime, scifi, fantasy, genre etc.) consider broadening your taste and horizon. Then by all means continue enjoying whatever you enjoy. To some extent op seems to be articulating this best possible version, but there are ppl who haven’t gone there and need to be told to try new things