• Rom [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    The USian frontal lobe cannot conceive of the idea of not being the center of the universe at all times.

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      SERIOUSLY

      You think a leader of the biggest economy in the world, with a population in the billions, and an active US rival is going to just immediately do an about face and kiss the ring like some USian CEO or media figure or whatever? Xi doesn’t need to kiss the ring, he doesn’t need to curry favor, China has something much better than favor, it has leverage

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        This, also China is banking where it really matters, for both pragmatic and moral purposes- the global south, aka. the overwhelming global majority.

        They don’t need to pander to a bunch of racist declining cracker-states, and doing so would be useless anyways, as China is the world’s largest non-white, non-western state rising up to challenge that order- it is basically enemy #1 for the white supremacists. And similarly, they don’t need to shoot themselves in the foot by backing a bunch of domestic reactionary social movements just to spit on western takes of “wokeness”- cultivating a healthy, harmonious society of 1.5 billion is more important, and the actual matter of life and death for China as a whole.

        Instead of pandering to the ““international community”” of the west, China is busy cultivating meaningful ties with the rest of the world and helping them develop; falling for western racism would be thoroughly counterproductive in this regard. And China is demonstrating to the world the achievements of a system that focuses on the common good and material conditions- unlike the west, their offering to the world is not political interference, moral crusading for faux-progressive and/or reactionary means, and imperial divide-and-conquer.

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        Why kiss rings when you can manufacture your own?

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    Pretty sure if they have anything similar to dei in china it would look confusing to us because the diverse people hired because of it would still all look Chinese to us.

    Edit: I’m going to edit this to include a statement saying that the purpose of dei is to increase diversity in your organization, which means if you have a pool of equally qualified applicants you might choose the diverse candidate if your team is all white guys, and you might choose the white guy if your team is all women or people from Sudan, diversity in your team has value and that’s really all it is about, especially among equally qualified candidates

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      Pretty sure they do have DEI in China. Minority ethnic groups are given additional seats in the party Congress (someone correct me if I’m wrong) . Ethnic minorities are also given preferential treatment for school acceptance

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      In China people from ethnic minority groups get tax breaks, priority university places, extra welfare, etc etc lol. It would explode the single chud braincell if they found out about it

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        Well they think minorities are in camps getting mass murdered so ofc they don’t think about Uyghurs getting bonuses on 高考.

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      Iirc there are protections based on gender, disability status, and being from a rural area. Idk if there’s DEI as such, but there are protections roughly equivalent to the ADA and Civil Rights Act (Title VII).

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        Ethnic minorities get a bonus in the Gaokao, to the disdain of some Han people over here. Some people are quite vocally upset about how Uyghurs were allowed to have multiple kids and had an easier time getting into tertiary education.

        I’m like motherfucker having a well educated, prosperous and stable region makes it harder for extremism to take hold (compared to even a couple decades ago) stop thinking about what’s happening in the past and present and look at the bigger picture.

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    If XHS is any indication, they already do. Making Ariel black in Little Mermaid apparently pissed off some very vocal Chinese members of that app

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      peter-running do not ask anyone on XHS about Indians or Koreans

      Also, anyone else noticed the “China is not an immigrant country” posting there?

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        Also a lot more open antisemitism. Love the enthusaism for the fall of Israel, don’t love so much when folks start talking shit about jewish people in general

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        Yeah there’s definitely some culture shock and points of contention with our values. They also seem to take the 90’s “colorblindness” approach, and see anything else as creating division. And ofc some of them go full on Reefer Madness with what they think weed does.

        But they don’t have the brainworms American politics create, so that’s a big plus. I think there’s a lot of potential value in this cross-cultural communication. I think most of them haven’t actually seen anyone explain or make the case for this or that take, because they just haven’t been in dialogue. I would say, don’t assume they’ll be unreasonable like chuds even if they’re off the mark on an issue.

        Imagine going through a portal to the 90’s, except in this universe people aren’t anticommunist or religious. Some archic takes but way fewer brainworms than most places.

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          Yeah, it’s possible to have a genuine dialogue on things. Even someone who is relatively chuddish will hear you out.

          The insistence that “negative peace” be maintained a bit more difficult for me to grapple with, but I’m hardly in a position where I should attempt to tackle that in the first place

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        The funny thing (but still inclusive really) is that…apparently they consider every ethnic group in China to be Han? It’s weird but it means everyone’s in the in-club. Imagine if racist Americans were like every American is actually white (so even PoC are considered white). Weird, certainly racist, but very inclusive; also not helpful to corporations and political parties who need us all to be at each other’s throats.

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          I’ve noticed the exact OPPOSITE. Every single ethnic groups is CHINESE. Han are Han. Wa are Wa. Hezhe are Hezhe. Yi are Yi. And so on. Everyone is in the “Chinese” club, though. This also includes newer members like Tibetans. They are Chinese now.

          There is also no shame in a Han person dressing in the full traditional Yi garb, though. There seems to be no concept of cultural appropriation if someone does it because they love it and don’t claim it as theirs.

          Additionally a lot of policies protect the minority ethnic groups. For instance the One Child policy in the days of old only applied to the Han.

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          Isn’t that exactly what happened with whiteness as a concept? Used to be wasp only, now it even includes Italians and the Irish. Black people are also nominally let into the tent of “American” when it is time to shit on the “illegals”.

          Don’t really see the need to give credit to this kind of chauvinism.

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            when it is time to shit on the “illegals”.

            Don’t really see the need to give credit to this kind of chauvinism.

            Ah, true. I hadn’t considered it, and actually I have seen this done many times.

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          most of the population is han, but there are 56? officialy recognized indigenous minorities that make up like 10% of the population or so. your ID will have your ethnicity on it for example

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            Ah, I wasn’t aware of that; admittedly my ‘evidence’ is anecdotal and comes from a few arguments I’ve seen with some folks in/from China where people were saying this region or that isn’t Han but that they’re simply classified that way. Probably a racist argument against Chinese folks that now that I dwell on it, probably went over my head.

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              as far as i know, a lot of populations have “become” han over time (thousands of years) for example people in the southeast being “nanyue” at some point before the tang dynasty, and a lot of manchu populations becoming han-ified during the qing dynasty and japanese occupation i think.

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      Even more than most, ASPI I just a nakedly evil, warmonging US front for the weapons industry. Obviously it’s whole purpose is to try and ignite a war with China, but it also helps with whatever evil propaganda the US needs it for. Remember the detailed BBC ‘fact check’ and investigation into Israel’s first bombing of a hospital that basically bent over backwards to accommodate Israel’s bullshit about it being a Hama rocket? Their “independent” rocket expect was an ASPI ghoul.

      I haven’t been following their falling out with the Australian government, but I’m guessing it’s partly because more and more they’ve been showing their true face as a US velvet gloved fist and local politicians don’t like being blackmailed by these yank ghouls. 20 years or so ago it was pretty much 100% Australian government funded. Now in both funding and form it’s pretty much entirely the US government (some from Taiwan, lol) and Yank (& Brit, our hands are dirty as fuck too) weapons/surveillance contractors including Lockheed, Raytheon, BAE, Thales, Northrop, Microsoft, Google, & that old CIA firm Oracle.