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    Is it bad that whenever I see these types of alarmist posts, I respond with “Happy Great Replacement!”?

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    I have no idea of their nationalities or whatever, but some of them look pretty white to me? Just tanned.

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    What the hell is to be white? Is it a culture? A skin color? If that is the case I would be white because I have green eyes, I am more than 6ft and I have light skin, but this isn’t to be white actually I am latin American I don’t get it…

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    Many Puerto Ricans are white. I’ve known many people over the years who are blonde hair, blue eyes, or green eyed gingers with freckles, but are as Puerto Rican as they come. Ask your local MAGA turd if they can explain why that might be.

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      My half Cuban half Colombian best friend is white as snow with blonde hair and blue eyes. When she starts speaking fluent Spanish, people look twice.

      She actually had to threaten a lawsuit because she was discriminated at work because of being Latina. No one knew until she spoke Spanish and then her manager started treating her differently.

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      Yes, that’s why white people are called Caucasian, because they are named after the Norway-Sweden mountains… wait a minute…

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    Is bad bunny not white? I thought Puerto Rico was colonized by the spanish wiping out the majority of the native population and he looks pretty spanish. I guess this is one of those “the Irish aren’t white” situations.

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      The reason for this is that race is a made-up concept.

      Race is a pure “us-vs-them” term. That’s why the term “race” was roughly equivalent to “nationality” in most European languages before the term fell out of use after WW2.

      If you read texts from 1920s Europe, they frequently talk about the “French race”, the “German race” or the “English race”. When the Nazis talked about the “uber race”, they didn’t mean white people, but instead meant German people. They saw the French, the English and so on as inferior races. (Which makes the concept of neonazis from other countries than Germany quite absurd.)

      In the USA, there weren’t enough people of one nationality to dominate the area, so they had to band together and create a “shared white identity”, so their us-vs-them became roughly equivalent to the continent of origin.


      Since “race” doesn’t have any actual definition apart from us-vs-them, it can be adapted to whatever makes sense right now.

      A “white person” can be someone who looks vaguely white. It could be someone where the majority of their ancestors come from a certain part of the world (e.g., excluding Ireland, Eastern Europe, North Africa, … even though they might look indistinguishable from people from e.g. Western Europe). It could be someone where every single one of their ancestors come from a certain part of the world. It could even be just people of a certain socio-economic group. You could even define that “true whiteness” requires a certain political affiliation.


      Side note: while the term “race” fell out of use in most of Europe after WW2 and is now being reimported from the US with US meaning, the same is not true for the word “racism” that stayed in use in most European languages and is stilm used with the old European definition.

      So to someone from the US, a French man hating all Brits is not a racist, but to someone from Europe, he is a racist.

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        If you read texts from 1920s Europe, they frequently talk about the “French race”, the “German race” or the “English race”. When the Nazis talked about the “uber race”, they didn’t mean white people, but instead meant German people. They saw the French, the English and so on as inferior races. (Which makes the concept of neonazis from other countries than Germany quite absurd.)

        Downton Abbey has at least one instance of this, referring to the “German race” just slightly post WW2. It caught me off guard but now makes sense in light of your comment.

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      most Puerto Ricans are tri-racial with their genetic makeup skewing towards towards African. the three groups that led us to now are the indigenous Taino who were enslaved by Christopher Columbus, enslaved Africans, and as you mentioned the Spanish. i don’t know a single boricua who identifies as white. i’m sure they’re out there, but they’re just not who i’m knowing. but either way, white supremacy guages whiteness by proximity to power within a color coded society. so like… even if Bad Bunny were 100 of spanish descent it’d be as you say, similar to how the Irish, Italians, Romani, Jews, and Ukrainians aren’t white under the framework of american white supremacy.

      it’s also important to know that white supremacy isn’t a uniquely western European or so called united states thing. the all time promoting white supremacy champs are:

      • the so called united states
      • great Britain
      • Germany
      • Italy
      • Russia
      • Israel
      • China
      • Japan
      • حمید پیام عباسی@crazypeople.online
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        China promotes White Supremacy?

        As someone who has lived in Puerto Rico, and whose mom was born and raised there of immigrants from Mandatory Iraq during WW2, I’d say about 20-30% of people in Puerto Rico consider themselves white.

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          The CCP promotes Han supremacy; it’s literally encoded in the Chinese constitution that the leader has to be a Han and the deputy has to be of other ethnicities. I learned about that while debating with a supremacist to justify their ideology and the slogan “[insert race/ethnicity/nationality] for [insert any given place]”. That is why lot of white supremacists look to Japan and China, to a certain extent, about keeping “homogeneous” and “native”. But white supremacists conveniently ignore that China is ethnically and linguistically diverse even with 90% Han population making up the Chinese demographic, and the Japanese came to Japan later, with Ainus being there first.

          What supremacists really mean to say is that “might makes right. We may have actually come later to the land, but we displaced the original settlers by force. We ain’t gonna let others do the same to us.” I’m kinda glad I am born South East Asian, there is relative harmony among different groups.

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      same, but im asian. only white people/magas complain about wokeness. Also they have pet peeve with anything that strays from evangelical christianity subtleties in shows and movies.

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      I watched “The Nightmare Before Christmas” once and I swear there wasn’t a real person in there. They want every single one of us to be dead and animated!

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      There was some Richard Pryor joke about some 70s sci-fi movie with only whites in it. Think about what that means…

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    Poor Puerto Ricans. Considered both American and not American at the same time.

    Also, does Morgan not consider Ricky Martin as white? He appeared on the show!

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      Let’s not forget that they are subject to taxes yet lack any representation.

      I’m pretty sure I remember a country that was pretty pissed off about that in the past…

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      If Bad Bunny, a boricua, isn’t white to Morgan, then Ricky Martin, a boricua, wouldn’t be white either

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    There are at least 3 white people here. This fuckhead just doesn’t see it because they’re dressed differently then they think white people dress.

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      I was gonna say some of these people look pretty white to me. But then we’re getting into the arbitrary question of who counts as white which is probably way beyond her understanding.

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        Part of being “white” is getting to decide who is “white.” This is only possible because “white” is a completely made up category. We shouldn’t even engage with the term.

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        It’s entirely in the eye of the beholder, as white is an ephemeral western social in-group and not an ethnicity. If you think you see white people in this photo, then you do.

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        To that person, “there are at least 3 people who are clearly at leat white passing”

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      Also, there were black people, but I’m sure this ethnocentric asshole didn’t see them either.

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        There is an excellent book titled “How the Irish Became White” by Noel Ignatiev. It’s based on his doctoral dissertation and it provides a detailed historical look at just how arbitrary the concept of race really is.