To do what? Fly around, wasting tax payer money?
And what with them?
Make them say it.
Whatever it takes to distract from the Epstein files sir!
what’s a little extortion among friends.
It’s kinda loud in here, did the headline say ‘piece of shit fuckface Trump gives Canada reason #563 to stop trading with the US and increase trade with Europe, China, etc’?
Pretty much, yes. They just don’t get over there?! Whoohoohoo!!!
Basically: you are getting those F-35’s whether you want them or not.
I hate this timeline, but that’s funny
I was walking past the 7-11 the other day and the manager came out and forced me to buy a slurpee by gunpoint. USA! USA! /s
He said if I didn’t, he’d forcefeed a slurpee down my throat, at his expense.
Everybody calm down. USA and Canada have an agreement allowing them to enter each other’s air space. They said that if Canada doesn’t buy enough F-35s USA will have to send more jests into Canada’s airspace to fill in the gaps. That’s it. It’s not “buy our jets or we will invade you”. It’s “if Canada doesn’t buy F-35 we will have to do more work in our agreement”.
Sir, this is Lemmy. We thrive on clickbait headlines here :(
Seriously though. For all of Twitter’s awfulness, I think Lemmy could use a similar “reader added context” bubble right below the headline text. A corrective comment doesn’t really fix the engagement the headline gets.
This community really needs a clickbait title flagging process.
Honestly, I’m a little surprised that this post wasn’t locked or had a comment pin stating that the title of this post is misinformation and that the actual body isn’t what the title indicates
Our media needs to fucking quit the click baity titles.
The process is RTFA :)
return to fucking acronym. english is hard
Cute, but its obvious everybody checks replies first and you do so specifically to avoid giving clicks to bad actors so they can draw people in to sell ads
Bad headlines will get worse if you RTFA after falling for the clickbait. The incentives are fucked.
That’s why some of us have to do the hard work of reading before replying.
Which is why a flagging process creates a better incentive loop and reduces stupid incentives.
“Such a nice airspace you have here, it would be a shame if something would happen to it” Also doesn’t say they would invade… still it’s a clear threat.
Putting a correlation on “more fighters jets in your airspace” on them buying more planes that cannot really be used to protect from the US (for software limitations) sounds a lot like a threat.
But, sure, you are technically correct
But why isn’t Canada allowed to use whatever other jets it buys for that? Why does it have to be American made f-35s?
A better question is why buy a shitty jet that even the US Navy rejected?
These turds have been parked in LA on software bugs for TWO YEARS.
They are the Jeep Wranglers of the military.
But Hoekstra warned that if Canada chooses to purchase Saab’s Gripen E jets, the U.S. would still need to reconsider how it works with its northern neighbor on security.
“If they decide they’re going with an inferior product that is not as interchangeable, interoperable as what the F-35 is, that changes our defense capability,” Hoekstra said.
“And as such, we have to figure out how we’re going to replace that,” the ambassador added.
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They are just saying that if Canada changes its plans US will have to adapt. Looking at what’s happening in Greenland this can be somehow considered as a threat (if you can’t defend yourself we will have to take over…) but it’s really a stretch. US will probably decide to deploy more F-35s there or something which makes total sense.
Idk. Sounds like the US whining but I guess a news article also isn’t going to reveal exact security terms and threats. Canada was going to use the same number of planes but from a different country and manufactured on Canadian soil with Canadian jobs. I think thats the biggest “threat” trump is worried about.
Also you should consider seperating your opinion from the quoted text using mark up.
They are saying it is because of compatibility issues I assume. Everything is likely tied together to communicate based on the planes being F-35s.
Seems like something easy enough to fix by installing those same communication systems into the other planes.
Is that what the pundits said about the president and his appointee threatening canada again? Yeah he threatened them but what he meant was best friends forever! Kind of a hard sell at this point I’m afraid. The US is the enemy, they are deeply hostile make no mistake, in league with Russia to blow up Nato, and in a confrontation with the west over territory could trip the kill switches they have in high end military gear they sell, bricking those jets.
You are right. The title is so misleading and I can’t believe someone with the title journalist on their resume wrote it.
They’ve used everything they’ve learned to twist the words into bait
So if they don’t buy any we’re just gonna give them out free? That’s dumb.
It does sound really weird, however, the way I see it is both countries are under obligation for defense forces anyway, and already go into each other’s air space in order to do this. So, by Canada not buying the jets( Which I agree with that decision at this point because the US has heavily dropped the ball while increasing prices.) that doesn’t change the fact that they were counting on those jets for coverage, which means that they need to gain that coverage from somewhere in order to uphold current agreements.
The ambassador was just stating that they will need to attempt to alter NORAD’s deal with them because if Canada isn’t going to supply the coverage, then if they were to keep the same coverage, the US would have to send more jets in which he is complaining about.
Honestly, the title of this article is clickbait to the point where I don’t even think the article title itself is accurate to the article anymore. It’s borderline misinformation at this point
The Art of the Deal.
With a pilot, apparently.
They’re gonna get in trouble for false advertising when it turns out the pilot was a cardboard cutout and did not, in fact, come with the “car.”
Buy our fighter jets or we’ll send you fighter jets
Sounds like free delivery.
For free(dom)
This is just robbery, we weren’t able to make our schedule and modified the price. “$27.7 billion in cost – up from its initial $19 billion.”
Yet expect them to just give us $7 billion dollars because we failed to meet the contract?
Duh. That’s how extortion works.
You think the mob ever delivered anything on time and under budget?
Now I want a short story where the Mob accidentally hires the most effective project manager ever
There’s actually an anime where a corporate worker gets summoned into another world because they need him to use his efficiency to get their shit together.
It’s called “Headhunted to Another World: From Salaryman to Big Four!”, and it’s pretty good.
Stupid motherfuckers haven’t learned anything from the past year. They actually think they can just bully and harass everyone into submission. They’re losing more and more influence every day.
This is how the mafia works. Its the only business trump knows.
“Buy or weapons or else…” Maybe we should look for a more reliable supplier and close our airspace to their jet fighters.
There isn’t one, the only stealth fighters are in the US or Russia/China. If you don’t have stealth fighters at all you will lose very badly in an air war against someone that does. That’s just how it is, you have an overwhelming advantage if you can shoot your enemy but they can’t even see you at range.
Buying weapons from a country that threaten to annexe you is not a long term solution neither. But yes it take time to build a new supply chain
Air superiority has never won a war.
Source: History.
It has contributed to it greatly in the past though. WW2 is a good example.
WW2 iwasn’t won until the Allied and the Russian armies rolled into Berlin
“Give us money or we will attack you” is generally not something you say to an ally you want to keep. Trump is literally insane, trying to start WW3.
It’s extortion, the only thing trump knows…
In his narcissistic mind, everyone else is just there for him to exploit. He literally can not comprehend any other way to do things.
Canada would be dumb to go forward, everyone knows the US has kill switches in their gear and now might hostilely engage canada, perhaps to steal territory, and otherwise has talked of invading other nato countries like in Greenland.
In which case the US could brick all of the gear they sold them. It’s already bad enough, Canada has to buy from EADS or whomever builds their air forces, I would not trust the UK either at this point, they are properfucked by their own neoliberal type politicians in labour, that have done more damage than the tories the past couple of years…
everyone knows the US has kill switches in their gear
Because you read it on Lemmy?
There is no kill switch, that would be stupid and a huge vulnerability. The “kill switch” is a metaphor for the supply chain required to keep the jets active. If the US stopped sending parts, the jets would be useless after a few sortis.
It’s a longstanding rumour, I read about it in the times back 20 years ago, and elsewhere later, you haven’t heard that before? There’s another, that the US has kill switches hidden in the majority of the world’s computers, they send a signal to it and it bricks.
I believe both of them, you are free to believe the taxoplasmosis parasites that tell you the government wouldn’t do that what do I care.
That’s absurd. All it would take is one disgruntled worker to post proof about it. And foreign powers would pay handsomely for a spy or hacking group to provide details. It’s well known that countries like Russia, North Korea, Israel, etc. all have highly talented hacking groups on their payrolls. If they had the slightest feeling that the US implemented such kill switch technology then they’d all be doing everything they could to exploit it. It’s not worth the risk.
It’s not that type of software, more like a fusible link, something you would never find.
If it is remotely controllable then it can be exploited by adversaries.
Hasn’t been so apparently they know what they are doing.
If the Americans put kill switches in gear they sold to Canada, that is a reason for Canada to NOT buy more gear with kill switches. Instead, Canada should resecure their supply chain of military equipment.
Yeah that was what I was saying too. The US is the enemy now. Sadly but there it is. Maybe the new supreme leader will make nice, but I doubt it.
