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While streaming, the rapper performed a Nazi salute and said: ‘Heil Hitler’
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legit conversation on my friend discord last night
- hey did everyone see Kanye was on twitch?
- no, I didnt know that, why’d they let him go on?
- oh it wasnt very long, he was only on there for like 10 minutes before he got banned for yelling heil hitler
- oh…
Kanye skipped the lolcow phase and went straight to the horrorcow one.
Superbowl ad of the guy lying in a dentist chair high on nitrious going “Umm, umm, umm” for 40 seconds. the kind of shit thats so stupid you cant look away from.
He should come to Germany and do that here and then we can hear from him from prison for the next 12 months and he will be banned from performing here for the next decade.
But JD Vance says you dont have freedom of speech.
The freedom is there, the consequences too!
Compared to the US, they don’t. 1A protections are extremely broad, to be outside protected speech it practically has to be either CSAM or inciting immediate lawless action.
As in “SLUR should be hanged from trees” is protected under 1A, “Guys, grab that SLUR over there and string him up” is not. CSAM is primarily illegal because production, distribution and even possession further harms the victim of the CSA performed to create it.
Yup, between that and the lack of gun control is no wonder the US is the way it is. On paper, that level of freedom is lovely. In practice it just lets the worst people be violent assholes with zero consequences.
I’ll take the German/Canadian/NZ approach every day!
That’s it, no more guns!
We got freedom of speech. But when it harms people, it isn’t just speech anymore. Cause violence against innocents and you pay the consequences.
I get it.
but the “Free Speech Absolutism” that Vance is talking about, demands the right to call you a N****R without consequences. Or say that you need to be killed because X Y Z.
The detail I enjoyed most about this is that he had fewer than 220 followers at the time of the ban. This suggests that in order for any details on this incident to have got out at all, a decent percentage of his fans in 2025 are actually just journalists waiting for him to do something stupid they can get an article out of.
He would have got away with it if he had a car company
Last month, West made a video featuring him posing in a diamond-encrusted swastika necklace next to infamous white supremacist Nick Fuentes.
I have a good friend who is a jeweler, and loves getting an expensive custom job, which this had to be. You dont just pick up a “diamond-encrusted swastika” at Jared. I wondered what my buddy would do if he was offered such a commission.
And I realized that he’d take it, not because his politics (or musical taste) are in alignment, but I know that he would say “If he wants to pay me a ridiculous amount of money to help him make an idiot of himself in front of the entire world, who am I to deny him?”
The correct response to such a request is “No Nazi bullshit”
I agree, I’d refuse it, but I can’t judge someone who is self-employed, and needs to keep the money rolling in. Traditionally, artists have had to work for wealthy patrons they havent cared for, but that’s the flip side of being an artist, and why the dream is always artistic independence.
Man, the difference is that the swastika sends a message of death. I know, I know, anything could be a message of death.
But some stupid fuck sees that stupid idiot wearing a fucking diamond encrusted swastika necklace, then he will be emboldened next time to harm some innocent person. All because, yes, because of someone willing to take the money. It’s blood money.
That’s a very valid perspective, i agree.
But it seems like if someone is going to be inspired by a diamond-encrusted swatika to commit hate crimes, they were already pretty far down that path anyway. I don’t think the jeweler who is trying feed his family is at fault.
“Hey I’m going to kill Jimmy tonight. I’ll do it with a knife if I have to, but I’d rather use this gun. It jams, though. Can you fix it for me? I’ll give you 10 grand.”
Unless that one commission is standing between them and survival then I think we can say they’re slightly to blame. They’re a part of the problem anyway.
He’s just following the custom order amirite
Current world record holder for Any % Twitch Ban.
I’m sure joining and then immediately starting a stream with your cock out would get you banned faster
only one way to find out!
Hmm 🤔
I guess I’m glad Twitch took a side on that?
After Bezos went full nazi on the Washington Post, I have expected the worst of everything Amazon.
Kanye just isn’t subtle enough with his anti-semitism.
I just checked and Hasan is still on the front page of Twitch. So don’t worry, Amazon is still profiting off of anti-semitism.
Hasan isn’t a Nazi. The fuck you on about?
In other news, Kanye still exists.
I’m not even sure I’ve seen him on the news this year. Gotta stay “relevant” somehow I guess?
Brain damaged troglodyte speed ran a twitch ban. Nice to see that money can’t quite buy anything.
It could have, but he’s not smart enough to buy the company first.
I can’t wait till this idiot drops dead
Only 30ish years to go!
I’m hoping whatever drugs he’s taking do him in sooner
2005: “George Bush doesn’t care about black people”
2025: “Heil Hitler”
Follow the cash. Find the Fasc. (see also Epstein flight logs)
He seems like just an attention addict.
That plus bipolar minus meds equals a real bad time.
While I agree that he 100% needs meds, equating his mental illness with fascism is an insult to every single mentally ill person who actually tries to control their symptoms.
equating his mental illness with fascism
Pretty sure I never did that. Doesn’t sound like me.
🌎🧑🚀🔫👨🚀
huh… are you suppose to be able read the ‘blacked out’ bits by click drag highlighting the text…
Acrobat even provides a warning asking if you’d like to sanitize the information specifically to keep that from working.
Shhh, don’t tell the govt they fucked up that part!
He was medicated in 2005 (and correct, Bush didn’t get nearly enough blowback for the disastrous Hurricane Katrina “recovery”)
I won’t defend George w. But there was a whole chain of people that fucked up. Kathleen Blanco was governor at the time, idk who the mayor was, who was in charge of the national guard, who was point man for FEMA at the time. A whole chain of people doing fucking nothing.
It’s easy to blame the president in such situations, and he certainly deserves his share of it. But the entire affair was mediocre at best. I don’t think it was malicious, just fucking embarrassing…
Point being, if he cared then effort could have been made to account for all of that.
I can’t believe he lasted that long. This guy needs help.
The sad thing is, I think you are correct, without even joking. I think he literally needs some kind of help.
I try to keep an open mind always. So a while back he did a Lex Friedman interview, and I listened to it. For anyone not familiar, Lex does long form interviews of an hour or more and gets deep into various subjects.
I got about halfway through before concluding that there is something seriously wrong with West. Maybe he is just stupid (not as an insult, I mean like he lacks any sort of intelligence) or maybe he has brain damage or maybe he is just delusional. But you listen to the guy talk for more than 5 minutes at a time and you wonder what the hell is wrong with him.
For example, he spent a lot of time blaming the ‘Jewish media’ for a lot of America’s problems. Lex repeatedly asked him for specifics, challenged him to call out specific members or leaders of said media for specific actions, challenged him to use his platform to identify bad actors. He had few if any specifics and saw no particular benefit in any specific call outs, in his world it’s all a conspiracy and the whole ‘Jewish media’ and everyone part of it is all one and the same.
Furthermore, he spent a lot of time explaining why we should stop teaching history in schools. Said we should focus on science and technology classes and not waste time reliving the past. Lex tried hard to challenge that, even brought up specific non-partisan examples from history that presented useful lessons for today. It had no effect, West continued to double down on the position that teaching kids history is a waste of time and resources.
At this point I had wasted about half an hour listening to the guy, and decided he was simply not worth my time to listen any further, because he obviously fundamentally misunderstood how the world works, how human nature works, and had little or no facts or evidence to back up his positions. I concluded that any further ideas from West can probably be safely dismissed without much consideration, because his thought process shows no evidence of rational or scientific thought.
Honestly the best analogy I can think of is like going to a mental institution and listening to a crazy person. They will talk your head off for an hour about how aliens infected their brain or whatever, and the only thing you will get from it is an hour older.
His interview on Letterman’s Netflix show was it for me. He kept whipping up these meaningless word salads that may sound profound to some but it just came across as mania to me
He’s probably got dozens of examples that could be codified via the DSM-5 at this point.
The difference, someone like Mr West gets richer and more famous evertime he talk crazy like that.
No, he was already rich and famous, before all this (although he was always a bit loopy).
If anything, all this political and Nazi nonsense has whittled away at his fame and acceptance, and each time he opens his mouth, he loses far more fans than he gains, and the fans he gains are poor quality ones.
As for the money, he was already a billionaire, which is fairly difficult to lose once you have it. He has lost some of the endorsement deals that made him wealthy in the first place, but those are gone, so he isn’t stacking up cash any longer, just draining it. Its just that with billions to start with, it will take a while for it to get low enough to feel it.
Bottom line: Every time he pulls a stunt like this, its a net loss for him, not a gain.
And I think that says more about everyone else than it does about Mr West.
Wait are we turning twitch into club penguin now?
I don’t understand how there can be black people in favor of Hitler. How do they rationalize praising someone who would have genocided them?
“I’m different, he wants to clean the dirty ones”
“why am I being loaded into a train I’M DIFFERENT”
“Excuse me, there seems to be a mistake…”
“No, no, BAD LEOPARD, eat those other faces instead!!”
A couple things stand out to be from that response:
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the original post doesn’t mention Republicans at all. It’s like someone making a post against dictatorships and getting an essay and how “these anti-Trump posts are unhelpful.”
If something so cartoonishly stupid or evil is so clearly about a given group or person, that’s an issue. -
the reply literally says “they don’t want leopards eating faces, they just refuse to listen to people trying to stop leopards from eating faces” which for all practical purposes is the same thing. “We literally tried to stop this exact thing from happening that is now happening to you, and you refused to listen and made fun of us” is a fair criticism to make.
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“they believe bad things will happen anyway” except the bad things that are currently happening were not happening before, and they were predicted to happen by the people trying to stop this that weren’t listed to. Citizens who haven’t been charged with crimes weren’t being deported before Trump took office. People said Trump would be a dictator and where dismissed as “fear mongers” by the people who thought "bad things happen anyway, don’t fight it’, and through their actions actively helped bad things happen. Which brings us to:
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what are they suggesting people do? Pussy foot around the most aggressively rude and ignorant people who not only refused to listen but actively insulted those who tried to warn them this would happen? You think these people are going to listen if you keep turning enough cheeks? Man who’s wife was deported doesn’t regret voting for Trump
You try to meet someone supporting a fascist regime half way and they start stepping backwards. These are the people that when “first they came for the socialists” they cheered and celebrated. Next when they come for them I’m going to speak out, but I’m also going to tell them “this is the exact thing people were trying to warn you about!”
Thank you!
One question/note:
you refused to listen
I have this view of some supporters who’ll logon to an ad-ridden Android phone to open Facebook while Fox News is on cable TV. They were still on the oil rig when the debates were live but they caught an AM radio kook give his summary on their way home.
They listened to perfectly as I preached to the choir. I failed to reach them. The Democrats failed to reach and connect with them.
FUCK
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You think we’ll be using trains?
I think ICE uses planes.
Self driving teslas
Yeah, good idea, we can even make long lines of them in a well-organized convoy. Maybe the ones in front and back can control the ones in the middle.
Then to make sure they stay in formation, we can physically link them together, but with a bit of slack to turn and such.
In fact, we could even make special roads for these convoys so they get maximum fuel efficiency while also preventing them from accidentally drifting off of it. These roads would be exclusively used by these tesla convoys.
When these roads have to intersect with normal ones, we will give the convoys right of way, with some sort of movable barrier blocking the other cars from crossing.
Yeah, this idea is shaping up. Imagine all the people and cargo we could move with this hyper-efficient system.
You know, if we made individual cars larger so they could hold more people or cargo, this idea could get really efficient!
Larger… You know, large cars really should have a semi standardized format, you know, so you always know what to look out for. Like containers! Imagine that, a container on wheels, it has so much space for people and cargo!
I really enjoy those “tech bros reinvent…” memes
Can we have levers which toggle which direction the group of vehicles travel on? We could then rest people on different paths and have their loved ones make life altering decisions by choosing to pull or push the lever.
dude went full adam something
Why not, it worked the first time around. If it ain’t broken…
Yeah but this is the US.
And this is hypothetical. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
Not for long.
Rail travel in the US is broken though
To be honest, I’m actually really surprised we’re using planes and not trains, buses and ships
The same reason poor people can be in favor of conservatives.
You can’t fix stupidity smh.
History lessons in the US focus on the Jewish victims of the Holocaust to the exclusion of all others. Plenty of people don’t know that gay, trans, leftist, or non-white people were genocided.
Even white people. Slavs for instance. Anyone considered crippled. Political enemies.
Slavs weren’t really considered white back then. “White” as a social construct goes far beyond skin color.
“white” is a US idea. Like Irish not being “white”. Third Reich cared about Aryans, similar but different rules.
My mom’s uncle, white Norwegian, was put in a Nazi camp during WWII. History lesson.
They were the primary target and most Jews died in the Holocaust. That’s being said I think people of color who are Nazis tend play mental gymnastics to ignore the racism. I think it is the younger crowd who wasn’t hunted by hate groups.
The real thing to note is that Nazi Germany condemned large groups of people to die. When society is ok with singling out a group of people anything can happen.
KAJ has been consistently based for a very long time.
Damn, mad respect for Kareem,
Yeah, but isn’t he Christian? I think “Jesus Walks” was one of his songs. Jesus was absolutely Jewish and Christianity was a sect of Judaism for decades, maybe even hundreds of years. I’ll never understand hating the people that founded your religion.
If you’re a Christian, you believe that Jesus was the Messiah and that modern Jews deny that. It’s not really a contradiction.
Again, it was a sect of Judaism for decades for sure, probably centuries. It doesn’t matter what you believe.
It’s not controversial that today’s Christianity is descended from people who saw themselves as Christian Jews, Jews who followed who they believed was the Messiah. I’m just saying that there is no inherent contradiction in following Jesus and hating the Jews who did not believe that Jesus was the Messiah. Jesus being a Jew himself doesn’t really matter, since in this situation he’s kind of a special case.
It’s not controversial that today’s Christianity is descended from people who saw themselves as Christian Jews, Jews who followed who they believed was the Messiah.
Yes, they are both Jewish, no matter what word you put in front of them. Both Jews.
You’re right, but it’s definitely different depending where you live. I went to a high school in the New York suburbs that was largely Jewish. If I had to guess I’d say 30%, with the rest being a mix. We had holocaust survivors come to speak once or twice while I was there. I graduated in 06. Our teachers did not skimp on any of that. The stats were certainly focused on jews, but they also didn’t leave anyone out.
He’s mentally unwell, that’s how.
Its so sad when people can’t afford therapy
True. It’s also sad when people who can afford therapy refuse to go
Nah, then fuck em.
EDIT : fuck his music too, it sucks ass.
Mental illness isn’t a skin color.
He got inspired by the Black Hebrew Israelites, a pseudo-religous group that believes african americans are decendents of jews.
If I recall correctly from his infowars Interview (or somewhere else around that time), he came to the conclusion that since he’s a jew, he gets to decide if hitler was a good guy or not. It didn’t make much sense and I don’t recall why exactly he came to the conclusion that he as a good guy, but I think he said something like “There’s only love, so he cant be a bad guy”.
It’s possible he thinks black americans are the real jews, that hitler was doing a good thing with killing imposters.
You omitted the part where his girlfriend sucked his balls in public whilst traversing the waters of Venice in a gondola.
That should be topmost when defining his mental prowess.He all but forced his wife to show up naked to the Grammy’s - there’s video where it looks like she’s trying to argue with him about it.
Plus that “wives sell pussy for life” line - a big part of this is misogyny. He’s got some extremely disturbed attitudes towards sex and women, and is dangerous.
In the case of Kanye… fell astoundingly far down the antisemitic conspiracy rabbit hole.
Before he went turbo-mega-ultra Hitler fanbo1 on Alex Jones… he was saying a lot of shit about how the entire entertainment industry was run by a cabal of Jews who secretly fucked over himself and other black artists in particular.
… He completely lost his mind in this process and has arguably been having the world’s longest sustained, continuous, psychotic break (I think he’s been far more obviously just unhinged bonkers for longer than Elon?).
He legitimately hated and hates Jews so much that the actual Hitler stuff came afterward.
How does he rationalize that Hitler would absolutely have killed every Black or African descended person he could, that he switched from being inspired by American rascism to calling the US a ‘mongrelized’ people, because of American society’s multiracial makeup, interracial marriage etc?
Easy: He’s completely insane and legitimately should be in a room with padded walls.
Logic? Reason?
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Have you ever tried to convince an unmedicated, manic schizophrenic that… the things they are saying just fundamentally do not make sense, at a basic grammatical level, that their mind invents things that did not happen?
Yeah, doesn’t go so well.
They usually just conclude that you’re part of the conspiracy.
Have you ever tried to convince an unmedicated, manic schizophrenic that… the things they are saying just fundamentally do not make sense, at a basic grammatical level, that their mind invents things that did not happen?
I haven’t. How’s it go?
Not well. As RedditRefugee notes…
They do indeed usually incorperate you into their personalized, uber conspirstorial worldview.
If you have ever heard the phrase ‘Targeted Individual’ or ‘Gangstalking/Gangstalkers’… these are phrases commonly used by schizophrenics in online communities… who, having broadly similar underlying thought processes and lived experiences, will and do gather on the internet and discuss their … paranoid/persecutory delusions… and they do seem to have largely agreed on those phrases to describe their individualized, specific experiences.
I believe at one point, reddit had a fairly large r/TargetedIndividuals or r/TIs subreddit, something like that… not sure if it still exists or is active.
The “targeted individual” stuff is sad. There’s lots of tiny YouTube and TikTok accounts where people plead to their imaginary tormentors to stop, or angrily rant about how they’re ultimately going to win.
I posted on the TI subreddit a few times trying to encourage people to reach out for help/take their medicine, but yeah - you just become part of the conspiracy, or you simply don’t get it.
So… yeah.
I just wanna say… they’re not ‘imaginary’ tormentors, in the sense of someone playing make believe, who can just … not do that.
They cannot turn off the voices in their heads.
They cannot control the fact that they have vivid visual, audio, tactile, olfactory etc hallucinations that are indistinguishable from actual reality, that their memories of past events can basically just have things that did not actually happen… formed or inserted as a ‘core memory’, or things that did actually happen… wildly warped or just removed.
So… what do you do, show them a video of what happened, with them in it?
Nope, thats fake, thats not them, that is their doppleganger, that is their evil clone.
Nobody really knows how to ‘fix’ this, or if its even possible.
Antipsychotics generally just make them more docile and less prone to aggressive outbursts, but they also have massive sideeffects… they often do not actually stop the actual ‘unreal’ experiences.
It is nowhere near as simple as ‘stay on your meds and all the hallucinations go away.’
The result is that… they cannot trust anything… because quite often, the psychiatrists and other medical people they see will basically manipulate and trick them into beleiving the meds … are a cure… insinuating or even directly stating that their meds will solve the problem.
There is also a lot of other kinds of fraud and abuse going on with many people who treat schizophrenics because… who’s going to believe them?
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I had an ex who … developed into severe schizophrenia.
Shit sucks man.
There is also a lot of other kinds of fraud and abuse going on with many people who treat schizophrenics because… who’s going to believe them?
Certainly. When I was inpatient I saw them drug a man and lock him in a small closet.
The state won’t investigate the fact that I was assaulted - they sure as shit won’t ever believe anything that man says.
I don’t understand why the state of the mental health system is so fucked. and why no one seems to be trying to fix it.
… My ex was SA’d by a staff member during one fairly long term stay.
Managed to get that guy fired, but not … you know, prosecuted.
The state of mental health is fucked because mental health, at its core, foundationally is built off of ‘how do we pathologize and treat people who have trouble being or cannot actually be any kind of an ideal employee.’
No one fixes this, or homelessness, because … no one cares, these people have no money or power, they are viewed as drains on society, instead of potentially productive members of society, or even fundamentally as just… human beings with consciousness/souls.
It is a structural issue with literally all of society, and the severely mentally ill, and the homeless (which often coincide, what a shocker) are literally the untouchables class.
We like to think we are more modern, more enlightened, more decent… no, we are not.
We are just better at technological propoganda and treats and distractions.
… Maybe there is a world where … now that the veil of this has been shattered by the rise of fascist MAGAs… maybe, down the line, this will lead to some kind of equivalent social/philosophical reexamination of how… we do everything, as there was after WW2 and the Holocaust… maybe that could be our future.
Their where Jews that helped the Nazi’s early on. They seen themselves as the good Jews.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_collaboration_with_Nazi_Germany
Basically, cognitive dissonance. They simply refuse to believe the truth, and make up their own fantasies in which everything is backwards from reality. It makes them feel like they have some power over their life, and/or that they’re special.
99% of the time people like this are just deeply freaked out at the idea of a cold uncaring universe with nobody in control.
some people are breathtakingly stupid and mental illness is complicated, idk what to tell you fam
While not Black, there was a shop in India named Hitler. Caused a bit of a stir.
They think they have enough money to avoid the camps
theres racist black people 🤷 This is just that but more extreme
But usually racists are racist towards some other group of people, not themselves.
It’s not unheard of. There were even Jews for Hitler
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Mental illness.
Well, believe me or not but black people were not on the bottom of the human nazi chart. The Jews were on the maximum bottom, then there were Russians/Poles/Serbs/Belarussians/Ukrainians, and then after them there were black people.
But still, black people weren’t consider aryan lol
Some people will gladly sell out the group they belong to, even when it’s absolutely obvious that they will also be targeted later
I wish that was the only part about him that didn’t make sense
This is little rational thinking in politics and political beliefs
It is all irrational for the most part
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He can afford meds, sadly we can’t force him to take them.
Here I am missing my meds and really wishing I could get my brain chemistry back to “normal” but I can’t afford it.
I moved across the country and had more difficulty than expected finding work, so my savings are tapped and my health insurance has not kicked in yet.
I’m not saying anyone should be forced to take meds that could alter their autonomy in any way, that being said, I know I do better and feel better when I have my meds. In life, at work, in personal relationships. I want to take them.
It doesn’t seem fair… hooray for capitalism, huh?
I don’t understand why we can’t force clearly mentally ill people to take their meds. I get hit by a car, I’m unconscious. No one waits to ask me if I want to be taken to the hospital, and even if I refused, they’d say I was in shock and not thinking right. It makes little to no sense to me.
Because they make the decision while on the meds and theoretically of sound mind. If you prior to that accident signed a DNR, and they knew about it, they wouldn’t perform certain measures that they otherwise would.
Consent is complicated, when you are taking about everyday people there are times the hospital will use legal tactics to force someone to get treatment, but that’s when it’s treatment or death and they are being stupid, I remember one article about a teenage girl being forced to do chemo and her response to it all afterwords was ‘‘well I was going to eventually get treated I just wanted time to think about it’’ which sounds like the only thing a judge would need to hear to approve the choice to force treatment, but then you have elderly folks with DNRs who are NOT FUCKING AROUND and ignoring those directives to me is pretty sickening, I’ve had grandparents who were ready to die, I’ve never been in my 70s with debilitating health problems, I don’t know what that’s like, but if an adult who’s reached a life expectancy age is ready to die, fuck you, let them die. And when someone like Steve Jobs that let’s a highly treatable cancer kill him because maybe he just needed to drink more wheat grass or some stupid shit, there’s nothing you can do but go ‘‘OK, well, we don’t have to make any follow up appointments now that you’re basically dead.’’ And move on.
You can lead a Kanye to maintenence meds, but you can’t make his dumb manic ass take them…
“You can lead a horse to water…”
