Lemmyworld just uncritically posting and upvoting literal CIA media now I guess.
It’s marked good by their bias site while freely and bragging that it’s owned and operated as usa propaganda so what’s the problem /s
proper sourcing
lmao their sourcing is usually just “intelligence agency says x” which as you know intelligence agencies NEVER lie
Well yeah, they’re intelligence agencies, they never get things wrong.
RFA having a “left-center” leaning is certainly a thing that someone could choose to put on a website.
These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes.
Makes sense when the range is trump on right and Reagan on the left 🤷
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I sadly didn’t know that the radio free sources were CIA until the sources around here. I probably used to gloss over it without thinking. Sadly a lot of them don’t care, but I like to believe there are other people out there just not educated yet.
“Now”?
yeah its Reddit
All that shit about “tankies just uncritically swallowing regime propoganda” was projection, to nobody’s surprise
Honestly the best point here
Radio Free Asia
And immediately disregarded. Surprised they still have funding after Elon went to town last year.
I hate the term “cultural genocide”. Diluting the term genocide to that degree should be tantamount to genocide denial/trivialisation.
What frustrates me is that anything that would genuinely qualify as a “cultural genocide” by any meaningful measure would just be a genocide - they only pull out the qualifier “cultural” when they know it isn’t, so the term becomes self contradictory - they only call it a cultural genocide when it isn’t a cultural genocide.
Like what percemt of indigenous Americans speak their native language?
Absolutely. In reality, there’s no way to erase a culture and way of life without incredible amounts of violence. In all cases of language eradication specifically there is always a campaign of extermination because language is reproduced in the home before schools ever get involved. That’s why there were the residential schools, to break the reproduction of language by removing children from the homes where they’d learn the language of their parents.
“We don’t know the details,” the person told RFA
Another source in Tibet told RFA that the situation of its students and teachers remained unclear.
Nyima addressed students and teachers in a recent video posted to social media … It is unclear if Nyima’s remarks were made around the time the school was ordered to close.
“Anonymous source speaks to CIA-founded network and says school closure is due to latest law and this could be bad in unspecified ways for unspecified traditions.” Grok please turn this sentence into a 30 paragraph news article.
RFA admits they don’t know what’s happening. They admit state-run schools do in fact teach Tibetan language. They’ve not had comment from anyone involved. They don’t have comment from the government or local news. They don’t know the law. They don’t know where the students are going. The one video they found is probably entirely unrelated.
They then get a bunch of unrelated scaremongering quips from a USA-funded pro-independence activist working in Canada.
Surely groundbreaking journalism.
This is the sort of shit that makes me want to throw things through windows. I struggle to survive on the fringes and these fuckers can just be like “we didn’t investigate at all, but the bad thing is probably happening. Trust us.” and they get paid more to vomit out this nonsense in a year than I’ve probably made my entire life.
Tibetan sources who spoke to Radio Free Asia
Article immediately dismissed
Radio Free Asia
lol. lmao
Beat me to it.
Libs will seethe about non existent cultural genocide while ignoring actual genocide. Literal clowns
A population of 3.65 million having 3 schools closed? Clearly an insidious plot by the evil Chinese government to destroy Tibetan culture.
Three schools in three years? Maybe. But three schools IN THREE MONTHS.
To put this into an alarming perspective, if this was taking place in Tacoma county, Washington, it would only take them 3 years and there wouldn’t be a single elementary school left!
It is 2012. The International Community condemns China’s treatment of Tibetans.
It is 2019. The International Community condemns China’s treatment of Uighurs.
It is 2026. The International Community condemns China’s treatment of Tibetans.
It is 2033. The International Community condemns China’s treatment of Uighurs.
They keep going back to Tibet because “Free Tibet” was probably one of the CIA’s best bits of work, and all they know how to do these days is make remakes.
Pavement
Foo fighters
U2
Radiohead
Björk :(
I already knew about her free tibet stuff, she got kicked out for saying it at a concert in Shanghai, iirc
Stacked lineup I fear
I mean. The new law now says that all basic education must take place in Mandarin. Calling it “cultural genocide” is BS but there are some pretty disturbing sections of the Ethnic Unity and Progress Law.
It’s great that they have laws protecting access to classes teaching minority languages and various cultural traditions! But it’s not great that you can now no longer have your children receive their education in your language.
To my knowledge the previous situation was that the requirement was that all students be taught Mandarin, but that they also had the right to receive the rest of their education in the language of their people. Moving away from that is concerning. There’s also a lot of language about promoting integration etc.
It falls far short of what’s going on in the west and a lot of the rest of the world, but it still concerns me.
I should say this comes not from the RFA article or any other, because I don’t trust that shit anyway, but from a translation of the new law. I just grabbed it from chinalawtranslate.com which could itself be full of shit afaik, so if anyone has a better source please lmk - but it just looks machine translated more than anything.
It’s challenging because if you aren’t teaching the national language as a priority, those students will inevitably struggle to get jobs or pursue higher education because those will be in Manadarin, and at a level that is beyond what someone learning it as a second language would be capable of.
Unlike the US, languages aren’t being lost in China due to integration, it’s just producing a barrier to career advancement for minorities who aren’t being able to communicate in the language they will need to speak in every university and most jobs. I remember reading through the law when it was first passed and not seeing anything concerning, I wonder what exactly you see as an issue. It seems like the issue is an idea that minorities languages will lose speakers due to this but I don’t think that idea is reflected in the language of the law or the reality of Chinese minority languages
It’s full of opportunities for unfalsifiable orthodoxy stuff. Either China teaches Tibetans Mandarin, in which case they’re destroying their language and culture, or else they don’t and are then deliberately depriving them of opportunities to keep them isolated and struggling.
The latter isn’t called out as frequently though, the west would rather cite linguistic divide (rather than integration) as evidence in favour of Tibetan separatism (“Look, xx% doesn’t even speak Mandarin, look, yy% aren’t Han Chinese, they’re essentially a different country”). Isolation from the rest of the nation is the game and multilingualism frustrates those efforts to drive that wedge. The same westerners would be galled, of course, if they visited Xizang and found nobody was able to speak English.
Dual language education is a common and humane approach to this issue. It’s difficult to assign a value to these Tibetan schools that have to close and the replacement schools without knowing the extent of their educational programs. Mandating basic education to be in Mandarin does not necessarily exclude dual language education, it depends on the definition of basic education. So overall more information is necessary to determine if this is a good or bad development.
thats basically “state existing” outcome, same as occitan or sicilian integration, less bad for now, cause those were burned out, explicitly and purposefully.
*there is something to be said about teaching modern applied stuff in language where it doesn’t work/rare, like sure you can teach engineering in tibetan language, the fuck do you with that though, your ordering is in chinese, programs in chinese or english, professional literature - same.
literature, history, and grammar (maybe geography) are obviously fine as that’s what language is about
(redditors are aware about cultural genocide in engineering programs all around the world (?), half of those are taught in english, and the smaller the country the likelier it is)
Settler colonialists throwing rocks from a glass house built on a mass grave of natives. Americans have no right to criticize pretty much any other country.
Reminder that Tibet had some pretty bad flooding and that this was just 3 schools for a population of over 3 mil.
i thought class sizes were out of control in the US and you’re telling me in tibet they have a million kids per school?!?
Just one huge classroom with 800 million people in it and a sign on the door that says ‘the chinese proletariat’
Let’s play a game:
Tankie argument or LITERAL psychology textbook examples of narcistic abuse justification.
IDK… It’s really hard. I struggle to tell the difference sometimes.
I hope you know that in the stories online of family members defending or minimizing abuse or molestation from other family members, you would be the ones defending theremoved or the abuser.
Whether or not you trust RFA as a source. This is all part of a larger thread being reported on in wider credible coverage. And not just them as a group. Its part of a self stated literal policy position on the part of China.
This is all part of a larger thread being reported on in wider credible coverage
all of which are based on the RFA article you shithead!
Even has one of the accounts constantly pushing sources like RFA in the comments defending it 🤦
Anyone online with a bone to pick with narcissim is someone worth ignoring. Quorators has taught me this. Easily the most popular form of projection.
Tankie argument or LITERAL psychology textbook examples of narcistic abuse justification.
One of the worst things to happen on the internet was giving random people who know nothing the confidence to spout bullshit armchair psychology like this. I am so glad I was old enough that my narcissistic parents didn’t have access to the therapy words to manipulate and hurt me even worse.
LMFAO this “anarchist” really showing themselves to be nothing but an illiterate chauvinistic racist and CIA worshiper.
Christ, this is coming from someone who’s an Amerikan and astoundingly pro-Amerikan, pro-NATO and pro-imperialist LMFAO
Well known western chauvinist, sinophobe, and all around insufferable dork Eugene continuing to live up to his reputation I see.
The chauvinism doesn’t even only go for China, even CUBA.
From an earlier post in a different c/slop thread.
They just make shit up huh
What has Engine V Debs done in comparison to Lenin, Stalin? Mao? That’s also so fucking stupid, Tibetians are still alive, and a big cultural group of China (clearly big enough for the CIA to potentially consider them a vector for possible destabilization, like with Uyghers). How many Native Americans are fucking left after the widespread genocide, enslavement, and chemical warfare over decades if not centuries? Totally different histories with totally different variables but Libs love to dumb down anything to the most minute detail that might connect them (they invaded with army, thus that is same as other army situation, what the fuck are you talking about).
oh my god these westerners are projecting HARD LMFAO
@chloroken@lemmy.ml Sorry that you are dealing with these fascists. You’re doing good work
So the US? LOL
