also ring cameras are spying too. i see them still installed in most houses.
Is there a link or something about this?
Just go take a walk in a couple of residential areas. You’ll see them fairly quickly.
I love these US centric responses. There is a world outside of the USA. I have never seen such a thing.
Ring video doorbells do exist in Europe, but they’re not very common. Apparently they are very common in the US, and they record video of things it sees. I think the legitimate use-case is to record if your packages (that are left by the door) are tampered with or stolen.
Here’s an article: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/07/amazon-ring-cashes-techno-authoritarianism-and-mass-surveillance
Flock cameras make it look like there’s a lot of crime in the area
That’s because their presence alludes to anyone being a secret criminal, even your neighbors. 🤮 Watch out next for the armbands.
They’re already soft launching this with trans people’s ID’s
Yep. The armbands aren’t just for arms anymore. 😒
Good move, buyer. I would cancel a showing for any house in an HOA. Have never lived in one of those.
Is there an app that shows you where flock cameras are and where they are pointed?
Several. The big one is DeFlock.
I went to the the pool yesterday with my toddler and noticed a flock camera pointed at the pool entrance. Fucking perverts.
Whatever spying cops are doing, HOA busybodies are doing it worse.
My HOA has them and advertises them as a way to keep the neighborhood safer. Most people buy it. I hope the tide turns on these though and that more stories like this continue to show they can affect bottom lines.
I have this theory that visibly disabled security devices harm the public perception of safety more than no devices being there in the first place.
Yeah, I’m still all for flockjacks and flock stumps though.
Don’t forget the 3D-printable Flock Sock —to protect the dear cameras from harmful radiation, of course.
Also for your balls. It’s well known that flock radiation shrinks your balls.
Is that censor a break in my screen or does that happen to everyone else while scrolling??
its part of the image
people should be aware of AXON cameras too.
So they presumably have footage of women in bikinis. Do minors also use this pool?
Did you say Epstein files? The ones nothing is being done about? The same that seem to not only list hundreds of those currently in power, but that they consistently avoid consequences for? Yeah, those Epstein files.
I think this would be my breaking point for sure
HOA are cancer. I don’t understand how anything the HOA does is not a municipal government issue.
Because our country has a weird obsession with “government overreach” and somehow a private entity policing your every move is “more free” than a municipal ordinance.
It’s because the government said let’s all get along, and treat black people as humans and HOA’s we’re a legal way to enforce segregation…
It allows individuals to harass members of the community they don’t like through ticky tack violations that can be selectively targeted at any type of “other.” At the inception of HOAs that “other” was usually some type of race, but it can apply to anyone who doesn’t conform or just who your crabbiest neighbor might not like because they hate kids or don’t like that someone drives a nicer car than them or are just angry at their lot in life.
The only thing I think is reasonable is in cities like SF, the HoA pays for elevators to operate and usually a full-time security guard(s). Its annoying that if I get a condo that I have to pay an HoA fee (some are insane and basically just rent) but if its reasonable I can see it being worth it.
But in suburbs? I genuinely have no idea why I would want to be in one. And the fact that youre forced to pay dues just because the previous owner of the home youre trying to buy was in it is wild to me
Here’s the thing.
Can it be reasonable? Yes.
But what do you do if it’s not reasonable? Because you’re locked in either way.
When I moved into my condo it was 300/quarter for the pool (which was blue), a working grill, 2 parking spots for my unit and 2 elevators. When I moved out it was 800/month for a green pool, a broken grill, 1 parking spot and only 1 functional elevator.
There was fuck all I could do. Some kind of Business bought multiple units giving them multiple votes. They could use my money to invest in their other businesses.
Not even going to mention the Surfside debacle. I got out before then but every single unit had a 70k Special Assessment because there was no money in savings, and the law now required a tremendous savings.
Yeah, I meant that specifically for suburbs/single family zoning areas. A multi owner building needs an organisation to actually do maintenance.
Our HOA is a municipal government. It functions exactly the same as an HOA but ran locally by elected government instead of a private company.
Being municipal government doesn’t really make it any better.
When I was house-shopping, I refused to look at any house that was in an HOA.
This is my number one requirement.
What you don’t want to pay a surcharge every month for the privilege to fund a micro government focused on harassing its constituents?
Ya fuck HOAs
Depends on the HOA. Some are basically microdictatorships, some are just actually a group of homeowners trying to make sure their neighborhood doesn’t fall apart. Several of the houses down the road that don’t have HOAs have broken furniture and smashed cars in their front yards. Imagine trying to sell your home living next to that.
We pay about $500 a year to our HOA, and that gives us access to a neighborhood playground/yearly events/etc. Only time we had to reach out was to build a fence and it was just verifying we were in the guidelines for type of fence allowed and not encroaching neighbors.
Just remember that the board and rules can change over time. What seems reasonable now may not be what you’ll be dealing with next year.
guidelines for type of fence allowed
Huge red flag. There’s a giant spectrum between “no trash in the front yard please” and “guidelines for type of fence allowed”
Some HOA’s are literally just to pay for the maintenance of a shared private drive, which IMO is reasonable. So, we explicitly refused to make any offers or consider any homes in HOA’s which didn’t let us see their charter. Interestingly enough, that was all of them… makes you think.
Where I’m from, the board has to make all documentation and meeting minutes available to people considering purchasing.
And it’s a damn good thing they do, I’ve had friends discover some pretty expensive things that were lurking in the wings for future costs, like mold abatement and foundation problems.
I’m surprised the HOA didn’t turn them off in the first place
Are you kidding me? HOA’s love anything to do with spying and snooping. They are run as the quintessential mini fascist fiefdoms.
I think they meant turn off the potential buyer, not turn off the camera.
Billionaires: Yes, your property values are much lower now. How about you sell to us before things get worse?
Sorry for the “clickbaity” in-video title but I thought this a great example of how people are fighting back: Youtube Link
