Some will cheer, some will be mildly disappointed. But I’m out, I think.

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    I’ll be sad to see you go, PugJesus. Despite what a small number of (very) vocal detractors claim, I’ve had nothing but positive interactions with you. Your content was engaging and you were one of the few power users who actually participated in discussions in the comments under your posts.

    You are by far the user I have most upvoted, currently sitting at 1846 upvotes and one downvote (no idea when that happened). It’s frequent contributors like you that have kept me sticking around the Fediverse these past few years - it’s a shame you’re now being punished for that very behavior.

    I was only subscribed to HistoryMemes and its offshoots to read your detailed explanations in the comments, and you were always willing to follow up with more detail when prompted. I’ll probably drop those subscriptions with you leaving.

    Here’s hoping you find your way back here someday. This place won’t be the same without you around.

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    So I always said you lot were just funny words on a screen to me, but I did tear up a little reading your comments. I guess I’ll miss a number of you. It made me feel better about the time I spent here posting, and worse about leaving.

    I wish I had it in me to keep going like the last few times.

    Thanks. To all (or, rather, the vast majority) of you. It was because of you that I enjoyed my time on the Fediverse so much.

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    Aww man, I’m sorry. You were always awesome, and boy do I understand not wanting to start over. The Fediverse is great in some ways, but the Roguelike Social Media aspect is… not it’s most endearing feature.

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        Yeah… man, I understand the technical limitations but it sure would be convenient if you could transfer user profiles.

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          Honestly, as I said elsewhere, I could do it if it was just my user profile. Communities are the real issue. Building up activity to the point where I’m not always the only person posting takes months of constant activity, every time.

          I just don’t have it in me again.

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            Ah, yeah somehow I was envisioning user profiles including communities and… yeah, anyways, I for sure get it. I helped get a bunch of communities started over on reddit back when I was in college, and these days I just don’t have anything like the adderall free time that really requires. Much love for the work you already put in, your history posts really were a highlight of my mornings!

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    I’m sorry if this misses you, but your memes and wonderful breakdowns of history always made me smile. Thank you for everything.

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    I’m sorry to see you go but I understand why you feel you need to leave. We’ll miss you around these parts. Take care PugJesus!

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    Thank you for everything you’ve done, and for your history posts, I always looked forward to seeing them. The fediverse will be a grayer place without your posts.

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    Thank you for making fediverse so much more enjoyable all this time. Sad to see you leave, but totally understandable.

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    I’m really sorry to hear this.
    If you ever deicde to try again in the future, please give Piefed.zip a shot.
    While I don’t use it (I’m on the sister Lemmy instance, Lemmy.zip), I’ve got nothing but praises for the Admins.
    To this day I haven’t seen a single thing to even so much make me think about migrating.

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      Yeah. Continuing to post on Piefed.social feels futile, and I just… don’t have the energy to migrate and rebuild my comms again.

      I’m not happy about it, and I wish I had more to give. But I also learned a long time ago not to press myself beyond my limits.

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        thank you so much for all that you gave to us. You were one of the cornerstones of the fediverse and I thank you for all the information you gave us. I hope you have a great life. All the best.

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    Peace, brethren. We need more like ya - and that’s just the problem, getting communities to a critical mass in this medium is kind of unsustainable. Maybe we should go back to forums.

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      I feel like critical mass is very much possible and sustainable in this medium. I remember watching Reddit communities hit critical mass, and it was generally similar to the curve here, just on a faster scale.

      The issue is the instability, and the instability is largely because of poor planning (God love Ernest, and I hear he’s doing better health-wise now, but he shouldn’t have been running the instance basically solo to begin with) and decisions.

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        The instability is definitely a sour note. I don’t disagree with your choices at all, for the record. I just feel like this format is probably better suited to being run by actual organisations, rather than loners with weird motives.

        If there was a nonprofit org (or god forbid, an employee owned company) that ran a link aggregation platform, I’d see that as far more sustainable in human terms. It takes sysadmins, active moderators whose agenda is actually aligned with the mission of the platform, and dance commanders like you (is that a good word for it?) to bolster engagement and build community.

        Just thinking out loud here, I’m not trying to talk you into anything or whatever. You deserve some extra free time.

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    PugJesus, you are completely awesome and your contribution to the success of the fediverse is immense. Thank you so, so much.

    I can’t believe anyone can be so stupid as to think that stopping the most engaged people being engaged in the community would be in any way sensible. And limiting voting? When you can only ever vote once on each post or comment? Piefed developers: “this popularity really needs capping”.

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    I don’t know who would cheer, you’re one of the pillars of this ecosystem as far as I’m concerned and even though I don’t say it enough I always appreciate your efforts in keeping so many niche subs fed with constant content.

    I totally get how you’re feeling, and I can’t blame you for being burned out. You’ve put in an insane amount of work over the years. I hope you find some time to rest.

    You will be missed, and will be remembered for a long time.

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      Count yourself lucky lol. I know several and they aren’t good people to know. But yes this will definitely make the new feeds a lot lighter. And traffic overall go down. Neither of which are great.

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      I haven’t seen anyone prolific on Lemmy not get hatred. Most of it I haven’t felt was justified.

      Incidentally, I like your username.

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      I don’t know who would cheer

      Hi 👋

      Tbh makes little difference since I had him blocked, but if he uses the opportunity to finally touch grass, it’s a win-win.

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        Did you know about the part where his illnesses make touching grass an ordeal he reduces to the minimum necessary (politics, keeping up with friends)? I get that you won’t see his comments, but he said as much somewhere in this section.

        Point is, he is touching grass and has plenty more opportunity. I don’t see why people are hating on someone contributing so much content, most of it high quality, and bringing life to the platform. Why would less activity be a good thing?

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          Did you know about the part where his illnesses make touching grass an ordeal he reduces to the minimum necessary (politics, keeping up with friends)?

          What does that mean, exactly? There are lots of ways to touch grass that don’t involve physical activity any more intense than typing. Playing a board games with your friends is touching grass, for example.

          Even if it were true that he had no choice but to be terminally online, his personality is insufferable, he digs in hard to his positions and can’t be reasoned with. I believe he’s had drama with trans spaces (something about neopronouns, it was a long time ago) before because of that sort of thing.

          I believe my last conversation with him involved him screaming at me and calling me a fascist because I said that I wouldn’t believe claims without evidence. And then following me around calling me a fascist while still refusing to provide a shred of evidence for his claims. I suppose if you already agree with him on everything, you wouldn’t see that side, but from my perspective he doesn’t care about being persuasive or backing up his claims so much as playing to the crowd and shouting down disagreement.

          Imo, comms like NCD are pure internet brain poison, “semi-ironic” glorification of the military with a veneer of liberalism. Likewise for the political compass and associated memes, it shapes the way people think about politics, massively oversimplifying everything.

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            He called you a fascist because it’s true. You are a genocide denier and simp for totalitarian regimes. It is even linked within the argument you linked.

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              I don’t just deny genocides, I deny literally everything that doesn’t have evidence to support it. Claiming that anyone who needs evidence to believe things is a “fascist” or a “simp for authoritarian regimes” is beyond absurd. Especially when the main proponent of the claim you’re demanding I accept blindly, without evidence, is itself an authoritarian regime!

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                How come do you come with the same talking points as neonazis/Holocaust deniers? (denying that evidence exists when you in fact deny the legitimacy of any evidence presented to you)

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                  How did you come to eat sugar, a food which Hitler also ate?

                  No matter what bullshit you try to pull to make me look bad for doing it, I believe in facts and evidence and will always believe in facts and evidence. You don’t get to go around using moral condemnations to “prove” claims that are utterly unsupported by evidence.

                  The accusation that I “deny the legitimacy of evidence presented to me” is baseless, because no evidence has been presented to me. PugJesus seems to believe that it is morally wrong, on principle to present any evidence whatsoever to back up claims made by the US government, that everyone should be expected to accept such claims purely on faith and that anyone who lacks such faith is a fascist.

                  Somehow, you lot seem to have gotten it into your heads that claims get to completely bypass the normal process of skepticism and evaluation if they involve genocide. At the same time, you completely refuse to weigh in on whether there is an ongoing genocide of Italians right now. Do you just hate Italians? Or is it that you know that if you denied that claim (which I just made up), you would be every bit as much of a “genocide denier” as me?

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              Like I said, he’s really just concerned with playing to a crowd that I’m not part of, so yeah.

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            Even if it were true that he had no choice but to be terminally online, his personality is insufferable, he digs in hard to his positions and can’t be reasoned with.

            Sorry that you don’t like it when I provide evidence and you refuse to read it, as in the comment sections you linked.

            I believe he’s had drama with trans spaces (something about neopronouns, it was a long time ago) before because of that sort of thing.

            “Something about neopronouns”

            Ah, this old canard. Unsurprising that you’d spread more blatant misinformation.

            I believe my last conversation with him involved him screaming at me and calling me a fascist because I said that I wouldn’t believe claims without evidence.

            Amusing that you literally link to me providing evidence multiple times.

            And then following me around calling me a fascist while still refusing to provide a shred of evidence for his claims.

            Sorry that you don’t like it when it’s pointed out that you’re an Uyghur Genocide denier.

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                  I’m sorry you think there’s something wrong with reporting genocide denial. But considering that you spend much of your time as an .ml admin removing anyone who doesn’t bootlick fascists, I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised.

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              Amusing that you literally link to me providing evidence multiple times.

              Exactly what I’m talking about. You know that most people won’t read through the conversations to know you’re lying.

              Sorry that you don’t like it when it’s pointed out that you’re an Uyghur Genocide denier.

              Pretty rich coming from an Italian Genocide denier.

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                Exactly what I’m talking about. You know that most people won’t read through the conversations to know you’re lying.

                Talk about projection.

                Me providing a link (see bottom left for the exact link) to evidence in the very first comment, followed by quoting the link when disputed, and providing further evidence.

                Me literally screenshotting the link provided to show where you were wrong, and pointing out that you failed to understand what I was saying entirely, followed by me providing evidence of your genocide denial (link at bottom left)

                Like most Nazis, repeating lies often in the hopes that they’ll be believed is all you have.

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                  Me providing a link (see bottom left for the exact link) to evidence in the very first comment, followed by quoting the link when disputed, and providing further evidence.

                  I’m talking about your accusations further down the thread. You know, the part where you call me a fascist for refusing to believe things without evidence?

                  followed by me providing evidence of your genocide denial

                  What does that matter? You’re also a genocide denier, regarding the Italian Genocide. Everyone on earth is a genocide denier.

                  Like most Nazis, repeating lies often in the hopes that they’ll be believed is all you have.

                  No, actually, I have reason and evidence, which you lack.

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            What does that mean, exactly? There are lots of ways to touch grass that don’t involve physical activity any more intense than typing. Playing a board games with your friends is touching grass, for example.

            Per https://feddit.uk/comment/26233735

            “As someone with a laundry list of physical and mental ailments, my ‘touching grass’ time is extremely limit, and general I reserve the monumental effort there for important issues - like keeping up with the social events of my actual friends, or participating in local politics in my increasingly-fucked-and-fascist country. “Touch grass, it’s more fun than shitposting about history!” doesn’t really apply for me.”

            As for the rest of your comment, I’ll be explicit in saying that I won’t engage with it. I have read the linked comments, their context, other comments linked in that context and frankly, I don’t think that will be a fruitful conversation for either of us. I hope you can respect that choice not to have it.

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              touching grass

              All I’m saying is that, regardless of the reasons, too much internet can create brainworms, bad politics, and toxicity. I’ve yet to hear of any physical or mental ailment that makes it impossible to log off.

              As for the rest of your comment, I’ll be explicit in saying that I won’t engage with it. I have read the linked comments, their context, other comments linked in that context and frankly, I don’t think that will be a fruitful conversation for either of us. I hope you can respect that choice not to have it.

              Sure. You asked, I answered. I mostly linked them because I don’t believe in saying anything negative about a person without providing evidence.

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                All I’m saying is that, regardless of the reasons, too much internet can create brainworms, bad politics, and toxicity.

                Imagine saying this as an Uyghur genocide denier and PRC bootlicker.

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                  Aren’t you supposed to be logging off? Now that you’ve noticed I’ve unblocked you, I doubt you’ll be able to stay away for a week.