I used to work on a residential cruise ship for billionaires. You should see them fight.
Children…all of them.
Story time!
Can we stage a fake crisis so they all flee to their bunkers, then we all lock them inside?
Genius. I’m getting my asteroid ready. Get your telescope lined up.
Really, the most disconnected from humanity unlikable people aren’t getting along? Weird.
Look at Fallout series for more inspiration about what might happen
If this is really the best of humanity that will weather the storm, we could be doomed after all.
Why do people keep saying or assuming that these are the best of humanity? These literally are the leeches of humanity, the narcissistic antisocial hoarders who think they’re the cream of the crop and obviously the only ones deserving of survival of the disaster they helped create.
Fuck these people, I hope they all die in a fire or something, humanity will be off better
I hope they all get sealed in their bunkers from the outside and go insane trapped in the tomb they’ve created.
It is one of the worst parts of US culture and one of the greatest accomplishments of capitalists’ propaganda that we generally see the rich as noble and admirable while the poor are evil and disgusting.
Not to be all US-centric about it, but that’s where I live and I think this place’s reputation speaks for itself.
Middleclass hillbillies from North Dakota think they’re the cream of the crop?
Well look at the quality of people who think they’re the superior race
Have these guys ever considered that the survivors outside the bunkers might just weld the bunker doors shut whilst those inside watch them do it on closed circuit television?
Yeah, make their bunkers their tombs. And the antisocial distance is poetic.
I would bury them after the welding, then scout where the escape hatches and weld and bury them too… Then the air system…
I think the bigger threat is people dropping toxic gas or bombs down the ventilation shafts.
cause ventilation shafts will be found, eventually, no matter how well they hide them.
Then just cut the doors open and loot the supply hoards. Convenient that you can look these things up on the internet and save map pins to find them in case of need…
This would just lead them to store gas-axes in their bunkers. What i dont imagine they can counter, however, would be the urge to leave once the air system is sabotaged and the crowd outside is sat waiting.
Gas masks don’t help with total lack of oxygen. All you have to do is send pure nitrogen down the ventilation shafts, even if they tanked O2, that’s maybe 10 hours per tank per person - how many tanks do you think they got with their $55K “Villa de Armageddon”?
I don’t think that any outcome they foresee will have any relation to what will actually happen.
These people are such morons. It would take about 2 minutes of an intro level Anthropology class to learn that for like 95% of human history we lived in small groups like this — so we’re definitely able to do it — but they only worked because they were (mostly) egalitarian. They absolutely don’t work when group members consistently value themselves over the group.
people are such morons
Wait until you read about Cryonics…
They weren’t necessarily egalitarian, but they all involved a sense of duty to the community the ability to reinvent the structure of the community, and the freedom to leave. They were also smaller than this. But yeah this is a bunch of people who don’t understand how to function in a community like this.
Also I’m not certain why these people are already living in the bunkers
Why are these people moving into these bunkers now? And why do you all seem to think it’s billionaires who are doing that, into $55k units? Lol. Lololol.
Yeah - these are crazy preppers. Inknow a few of them, and they’re the kinds of people who you very much do NOT want to share a bunker with.
Ew imagine having to share a bunker with a bunch of stanky, ugly, fat pedophiles…
some kids will have to. Imagine that.
Shot the contractor?!?! Plenty of sick ones buying the bunkers.
Never understood these bunkers in modern times.
If TSHTF so hard that someone truly needs to bunker up for months on end civilization as we know it will likely be at an end. No coming back from it. Congrats, you survived to enjoy the death of everything we know. Heck knows they didn’t store a hoard of raw materials, tools, physical books full of knowledge, farm implements, seeds, and have ready access to individuals with year 1895 level skills to make it all work. They only thought of themselves and stored some food, lots of booze, and a little medicine, figuring they could jet off to some safe haven when it was convenient.
If it were even the 1950s I think there would still be enough of a reservoir of local material and knowledge, and everything was mostly manually skilled labor to create, so bunkering could have worked out. But not today. Global supply chains, relocated resource extraction and manufacturing, and everything computerized has virtually guaranteed the impossibility of bootstrapping modern civilization should it fail.
They’re just as dead, but they get to enjoy roving starving humans trying to kill them over whatever’s left.
1895 level skills
Try 1695. There will be bits and bobs of modern life around, but the core skills required are going to be very much what the European settlers in the new world needed.
Depends on the extinction event. There are plenty of scenarios (well not plenty, but enough) where most people die and supply chains are wiped out, but there are still libraries and warehouses full of shit (home depots, Amazon warehouses, and so on). Pharmacies would be good for raiding, too. Also farmer bob and his family died, but all of his shit is still there on his farm ready to be taken.
And you can get generators with three fuel sources, not to mention that solar panels are readily available and generally easy to put together for a janky half-assed set up, so anything that needs electricity can still be used. (Did somebody say power tools? Did somebody say well pump? Did somebody say small flow treatment system? Did somebody say refrigeration?)
And preppers (not all, but likely many) do amass survival books, encyclopedias and “medicine for dummies” books, and any of them that are serious are practicing Bushcraft enough to have a working knowledge of that.
I’m guessing the bunker is actually there to ride out the people killing other people to take their resources phase. Maybe a nuclear bomb?
Myself, I’m a half-assed homesteader, which is like being a prepper without all of the white supremacy stuff that goes with it. If there were an extinction event, and I somehow lived through it, I think I would last a couple more months than your average joe, but I doubt I would live into old age.
farmer bob and his family died, but all of his shit is still there on his farm ready to be taken.
Good luck keeping Bob’s John Deere running for more than a generation.
So, ever been to Utah? No saying they are fully prepared… But their mutant spawn may make it out to kill each other over the scraps if it’s not a total wipe of life.
There’s people that might survive, I’m thinking like the Amish. But even they depend on modern society at some level for materials. If anyone would make it it would be a group like that, someone already without modern tools as much as possible.
Yep.
It will have to be those with a strong commitment to community and preparation. Which will mean people with “faith” in the future they probably won’t see.
So, that will exclude most of the narcissistic oligarchy. Though some are narcissistic enough about their own lineage to spawn a cult of personality for the continuation of their brood…
They will however continue to hoard resources enough to weather the more likely minor civil disturbances their actions are certain to cause. Wich is the real motive for some.
Well said. I was wondering why not just treat the world and its people well and they can continue to have their own private land to do whatever. Seems like hell if you’re stuck in a bunker without the modern world at your fingertips. Seems foolish to me as well.
Let them fight.
You would have thought that the people making these shelters would have learned from Covid that they simply can’t crawl in a hole and stay safe. The wealthy are used to soft easy living and a underclass of people who do what they tell them to because of their money.
If we really had a society ending disease or event they wouldn’t last two weeks before they came out of their bunkers looking for entertainment because they were bored. You couldn’t tell most of them to stay inside or even wear a fucking mask during Covid.
On top of that they may have the skills to make money but the skills a P.E. Investor has from raiding healthy companies and pilfering assets is not the same skill set needed to lead people when money has no meaning and/or form collective groups to survive.
Without a government and its protection, the wealthy are just going to end up dead with the head of security for the bunker fucking their trophy wife.
So… become the head of security for a billionare, got it.
A consultant reported that billionaires, when confronted with the idea that the private security team have incentive to continue to obey the billionaire once society had collapsed, asked tge consultant how they could msintain control of the security team, such as if shock collars or locking up all the food would work.
The consultant suggested they simply treat the security team really well beforehand, like just being a good friend.
The billionaires then became concerned, and I shit you not, asked “but where does that end?”
I’ll try to find the link to add it here.
Edit: Here it is.
Simply treat the security team really well beforehand, like just being a good friend… billionaires then asked “but where does that end?”
This is how you know they have become a net detriment to society. This is why they believe so strongly in things like “return to office” “no UBI” and poverty level minimum wages.
Have you seen billionaire wives? I’ll pass
Oh I wouldn’t care for the wife so much, in fact I’d likely throw her out as well, but a free fully stocked doomsday bunker sounds pretty nifty.
Yeah… No billionaire knows how to exist without exploiting labour. They aren’t going to be going into their bunkers without security, chefs, cleaners, or entertainers. There’s so much cognitive dissonance required to simultaneously believe that the government/world is going to be destroyed, but you will safe and still have a legal right to property.
The only thing that maintains their wealth is the legal and economic system they use to exploit other people’s work. Without it their property is just going to be seized by the first person who is quicker on the draw.
I mean I’m about a billion dollars short of being a billionaire, and I don’t know how to live without exploiting labor either. I can’t farm, I can’t hunt, I can’t identify edible berries, roots, and mushrooms, I can’t sew beyond fixing a button. I know a lot about mechanisms, but it’s far from clear to me I could do anything useful in that field once the electricity is out, let alone once source metal starts getting hard to find. Everything would get so much harder so quickly. Hell, I don’t even know how to dig a latrine that’ll prevent the water supply from being contaminated, assuming we can find a water supply. (On the plus side, sources of pollution in water supplies should start to fall apart pretty fast.)
I dunno. I just think everyone thinking about the collapse wildly underestimates how hard everything will be. I can’t really picture my sorry ass lasting long at all.
They usually hire ex special forces for that role
These aren’t “the wealthy” - most of these are priced at $50k-75k. That’s prepper nutjob price ranges and it’s no surprise that they’re shooting people with front end loaders since obviously it’s the government disguised as the company workers, coming to dig them out and take their guns.
The people who are actually wealthy have the means to not live in a hole in South Dakota surrounded by other people in their own holes. Their hole in the ground will be somewhere much less advertised.
These aren’t the control vaults. They are the experiment vaults.
Yeah, IIRC Zuck’s bunker is in New Zealand, because it’s theoretically farthest from radiation fallout during a nuclear event.
It’s in kauai, hawaii. Specifically, right here:
22.2016232, -159.3485761
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/coordinate_precision.png
At least we now know where waldo is in zucks bunker
In this case, it’s just the default number of sig figs Google maps gives. The satellite view literally shows the big hole being dug for the bunker, too.
Oh I guess it was some other billionaire who had one in NZ.
NZ does the “golden passport” thing, so lots of billionaires have bought citizenship there. Maybe Peter Theil was the one in headlines for making a compound there?
Where are the other Rat nests?
