• AItoothbrush@lemmy.zip
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    Monaco is fucking unhinged. Ive basically been to every european country(except like russia, belarus, etc) but monaco is something else. The pure dense unadultarated money that is in that country is an experience lets say. Even andorra and liechtenstein dont get close to the pure money feeling that you get in monaco. We should burn the whole place down lol

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    If a nuke were to hit this cove, it would cause the most positive redistribution of wealth in the history of our species.

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          Yeah, look at what the current generation did with a “small loan” of a few millions, imagine what the next generation will do with a “small loan” of a few billions.

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            Soon it will be trillions, and within a decade, quadrillions.

            Along the way, there will be alliances, private armies, conquering territory, enslavement, environmental disaster, millions of deaths, etc.

            It is inevitable.

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      I’m sorry but paper straws are just bad. Not that every plastic straw is perfect either, but paper straws in my experience only last about half the meal before they start to crumple. There are so, so many easier and less QoL-degrading ways of going green than using paper straws.

      I’m also fairly sure (correct me if I’m wrong) but nearly all ocean waste is from factory and industrial waste in countries without good pollution laws. Ordinary trash doesn’t usually end up in the ocean, plastic straws included.

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        Why are you down voting them? They’re right? They’re actually correct. Like 90% of solid ocean pollution is from just a few developing countries.

        And yeah landfills exist… Do people really think straws teleport into the ocean on their own volition?

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    15 hours ago

    REDUCE, Reuse, recycle.

    Big corpo latched on to the “recycle” part with gusto, to inspire more guilt-free consumption, while pushing aside the REDUCE and Reuse parts.

    Stop buying so much crap is the first and most important step.

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      They’re in that order for a reason as well. Reduce has higher impact than reuse, which in turn has higher impact than recycle.

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      Big corpo invented all three Rs to deflect blame from themselves

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        “Reduce” and “Reuse” are direct hits to the profits of the company trying to sell you shit, not exactly a message Big corpo will ever be pushing.

        Also, no big corporations ever give a flying fuck about blame for anything, unless there’s actual consequences attached, which there never are.

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    Yes. I understand that sentiment. Fuck and disown all those people. But please don’t stop recycling. It still makes sense.

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      People underestimate the sheer number of people that live on the planet.

      One guy recycling or not using a plastic straw is not going to make a difference. But millions or billions of people doing those things will be vastly more impactful than a few rich dudes sailing their yacht to Monaco.

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      recycling shipping plastics to other countries to be burned

      But yeah, i still recycle what i can

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        I know my plastics (and other recyclables) will get treated the same as the mixed, burnable* waste. There has been “scandalous” news articles about this in my country. But they have made the mixed-waste MAD expensive, so I save hundreads of euros a year by recycling, so I do it happily to save money. Maybe some of it will get turned into something good, I hope at least.

        *Burnable waste gets burned in a closed plant and the heat is used to send hot water to nearby houses.

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      Recycling doesn’t work and has never worked. The vast majority of “recycled” material ends up in landfills anyway. It was always an excuse to transfer corporate culpability for environmental externalities onto individuals.

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          True, but I for one recycle very little aluminum and glass compared to plastic, and literally zero steel, and I think my recycling habits are pretty representative of the average consumer.

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            That is largely down to where you live and the systems that are in place to help and encourage you to recycle

            For example here in the Netherlands we have a bottle and can deposit system which encourages people, and makes it easy, to return bottles (both glass and plastic) and cans to the store.

            The cans get recycled, and to my knowledge the glass bottles generally get washed and reused.

            This system is common in many countries throughout Europe, and they are effective and increasing the recycling rates of these things

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            Might just be where you live.

            My recycling bin has to be bigger than my normal bin. It’s mostly full of paper-based/cardboard stuff, glass, and aluminium.

            Plastic packaging is certainly around but mostly for low quality lazy food like junk food and straight to oven/microwave shit, so it’s proportionally low in the bin.

            I think this is a great example, comparing the US family to Germany, especially.

            www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/gallery/2013/may/06/hungry-planet-what-world-eats

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              What a very interesting photo essay. I think it’s a little too dated tho, at least for the US family. The pandemic led to a sharp increase in take-out food, and while it’s tapered off a bit, it’s still way up compared to pre pandemic.

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        Doesn’t have to be that way and what you’re referring to is mostly applicable to plastic. So disappointing to always see people claiming recycling is useless.

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          Truth is often disappointing, Chief. All of your plastic is going into landfills in Asia to deflect from corpo responsibility whether it disappoints you or not.

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            If you’re going to be an asshole, you could at least have a clue what you’re talking about. China stopped accepting our plastic years ago.

            It’s not the truth that is disappointing me here. It’s people that spread misinformation because they cannot grasp the concept that more than one thing can be true.

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            So, that “chief” bit? No need for it. It’s condescending. Remember you’re talking to a fellow human being, default to at least bare civility. It really helps

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              Condescension is appropriate when matching the energy of passive-aggressive comments like “So disappointing to always see people claiming recycling is useless,” though I notice that you conspicuously didn’t get your panties in a bunch about their comment, eh Chief?

              So disappointing to see people butting in with irrelevant “civility” advice where it’s neither wanted nor needed.

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                No, condescension is not appropriate. Why? Because you misread what TrickDacy wrote and decided to be both rude and wrong at the same time.

                I’m just going to mostly quote what was said, tweaked just a little bit for clarity, and see if you can suddenly figure it out:

                So disappointing to always see people claiming recycling [in general] is useless [when what] you’re referring to is mostly applicable to plastic.

                All of your plastic is going into landfills in Asia to deflect from corpo responsibility whether it disappoints you or not.

                Do you see it? TrickDacy was talking about people unfairly demonizing recycling in general by incorrectly extrapolating from the case of plastic, and then you tried to rebut that by citing the case of plastic and thus committing exactly the fallacy TrickDacy was talking about. 🤦

                Real persuasive there, “chief!”

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            Funnily, paper straws aren’t made of plastic that’s being shipped to Asia though

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              Yup, they’re made of non-recyclable paper that goes directly into the landfill here. Not much better imo, but you do you I guess.

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                Alright the more I read from you the more incorrect you get. Paper is biodegradable and only a fucking moron thinks that’s basically the same as plastic.

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                Do you know what happens to paper in landfill?

                I’ll give you a clue, people purposefully put paper into compost heaps.

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                  Do you?

                  I’ll give you a clue: people put it into compost heaps because it breaks down aerobically there. But in landfills the pressure and lack of air causes it to break down anaerobically, causing tons of negative environmental effects from methane, and that’s aside from all of the toxic chemicals treated paper leaches out.

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      Most metals are very recyclable…

      But I think in that case maximising reuse would also minimise its environmental negative externalities, and maximise the positive externalities.

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    wouldn’t it be really easy to just…you know…plant devices on the hulls of them while they’re all there in one place?

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      My dummy mind suspects that a hammer and a chisel would be enough. Just make a few punctures on the lower parts of the hull and call it a day.

      I might be super wrong tho, I live 900km away from the sea so boats might as well be like those ads of hot milfs in my area

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        Would be hard to swing the hammer hard enough underwater, but just think of the possibilities that a scuba tank and a hand drill could achieve

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    Is this ai? That one huge yacht just looks out of proportion. Not that there aren’t yachts that size. But the window layout is not proportional.

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      No reason to think it is. I’ve been to a couple races in Monaco and this is exactly what it looks like. From memory I think there were more yachts the size of the big one in this photo.

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      Though I can’t vouch for the specific image in the post, the content is real and well documented. The Monaco GP is a race in the F1 calendar, but it is also a major social event and gathering for the massive yacht owning class. Many reputable news sources report on this and photographs of known origin show this as well.

      For example I found the below article about the 2018 Monaco GP. It has an image with a similar view of the harbour from a time that predates current AI imagegen.

      https://yachtharbour.com/news/monaco-grand-prix-2018--$500-million-yacht-and-celebrities-2514