Motherfucker, MLK literally applied for a concealed carry and was denied. There’s a difference between civil disobedience and non-violence.
I understand not wanting fedposting, but you’re beyond naive if you think reactionaries won’t kill you if they think they can get away with it. We know this because they’ve already killed peaceful protesters. Heather Hayer is a notable example, along with the list of young black men who were leaders within BLM and died in not-so-mysterious circumstances.
I hate liberals so fucking much they’re going to get us all killed because they think they can facts and logic concentration camp guards into not gassing us.
Also the two people that Kyle Shittenhouse murdered and got away with.
You gave us zero excuse…
Which is convenient, since that’s all the excuse we need!
Violence and talk of it will lose us allies fast.
The allies:
Plus the Cheneys!
I figured that was the old people at the end 😂
Na, those were DNC attendees who literally plugged their ears to block out protesters reading the names of murdered Palestinian children as they entered the convention
Realized that later but in small form had to do double takes.
With allies like these, who needs people who’ll murder me
hillary clinton is a true marxist revolutionary. dont you remember that tiktok she made where she said she was just chilling on a pile of bourgeois piggies and to pokemon go buy a gun and use it to kill your landlord? she said that
It’s crazy how often MLK is used as some great example of peaceful protest when the guy was murdered by the FBI.
Seems like the non violent approach isnt very effective if the state will just kill you anyway for being too loud.
I mean, MLK was effective as one part of multiple movements. The black panthers existed at the same time and they played off each other.
He was murdered by the FBI when he switched from talking exclusively about black liberation and began talking about intersectional communism with black liberation characteristics.
That’s not unique to non-violence, though. Fred Hampton was also murdered by the FBI.
I have a bit of a frustration with rigid ideological adherence to either non-violence or violence. The question is a tactical one and varies depending on the situation.
my opinion, nobody WANTS violence or strictly adheres to violence as the only tactic, but there has never been a single nonviolent revolution in history. nobody has ever argued their way out of slavery. nobody has debated or reasoned their way out of oppression
not every protest needs to be popping off but some certainly do and nobody will ever be free until we admit to ourselves that the capitalist state is committing violence, and self defense is not equivalent violence.
in the face of fascism, where we are now, i honestly think its super unhelpful for anyone to talk about nonviolence. there are fathers who got taken from their jobs and now they’re in a concentration camp, their kids don’t have a father or any contact etc.
we’re so passed the point of talking about nonviolence. i just dont see how it’s helpful at all.
people are pissed, there’s some seriously fucked up shit going on, and someone chiming in “but we cant be violent” isn’t helping anything or anyone but the people currently doing the actual violence (capitalists and their brownshirts)
I agree with you, and I don’t think anything you said negates the point I was trying to make to the person I was replying to.
and someone chiming in “but we cant be violent”
Couldn’t be me
sorry friend didnt mean to sound like i was trying to give a counterpoint, more just trying to expand on what you said. wasn’t talking about you when i said people are chiming in about not being violent
The “brought to you by coinbase” ad below had me losing my shit
It’s all so ludicrous, it would be ridiculed if it was written and not reality
Slapping the gun out of my comrades hands and singing history has its eyes on you as the DOGE death squad march us to the pit
And do they not realize that non-fascists have been the designated villain for decades?
An actual form of both Holocaust and Slavery denial is asking “why didn’t they fight back?” and if you do fight back they bust out this fake crying technique to leverage their social capital. This is a trick abusers of any flavor use any time their victims retaliate.
I’ll choose the nazis trying to pull the self-woobification. At least I can use that to question if they’re really as big and strong as they claim to be if they act like this when their weaker target puts their foot down.
It sounds like molotovs are OK though
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Lot of drama around the 50501 people now. Seems like it very easily got coopted by dems
I don’t think it was coopted so much as the whole thing is the coopting to capture the energy and stop it from feeding the pro-Palestine movement and PSL or other leftist orgs.
I’ve met several of the original organizers here in my city. They’re libs but primed to be radicalized libs. The dems have swooped in. One of the drama items is most people are pro Palestine but several loud (also known feds) people have started arguments over “from the river to the sea” chants. There’s some drama over trademark fuckery as well.
So yeah it was always pretty lib but there seems to be a concerted effort to neuter it as a pipeline and I don’t think it started that way.
They were at fucking May Day protests the other day, should’ve beat them all with hammers
I went to my local Mayday event, and a group of Christians showed up an hour before the planned march and set up fucking booths and a stage with a band. My roommate and I stood in the back and yelled “Booooo”
In some places. There are cities where it’s been totally co-opted by the Dems via indivisible. In other cities, like mine, there is no 50501 without PSL. Others are still very contested territory.
any time i look at that subreddit i just see another long “hey guys mod here” post talking about how “this or that other 50501 group isnt the real one, it doesn’t represent our actual goals” etc etc. whole thing seems like libs just trying to out virtue signal each other hoping one of them will come out looking like the libbed up version of mlk jr
imagine thinking this administration needs an excuse.
also, lmao at specifically only naming guides/examples that were assassinated.
4chan is the product of Amerikkkan “culture”, they don’t need justification anymore. They can just say “because I’m mean, teehee!” and the whole country will lap it up.
i do not understand how they can possibly still believe this naive bullshit as they see US citizens and legal residents being detained and deported by ICE
Can these 50501ers just lay on the ground and die so I don’t have to hear these :cracker: ?
Just
well laying down on the ground might block traffic and make for a successful protest
so no they cant do that
I’m sick of these weak ass libs that will never do anything beyond holding a witty sign on the side of a road. I can come with several non-violent ways to fuck with the system and these idiots would rather deflate any potential for real change.
Call me when these people get the courage to block off an airport, disrupt an evangelical anti-LGBT service, storm a Republican party meeting, etc.
not joking but i think libs view shutting down traffic and airports as violence since its an attack on capital. any time anyone does some shit like that libs go on about “making people late to work isnt gonna get them on your side”.
they have no concept of actual resistance, they just know #resistance
They’re libs because they still believe working within the system will change anything. They keep going from bad guy to new bad guy of the month and treat this like a soap opera.
@Frivolous_Beatnik@hexbear.net You wanna leave a blank comment for your avi on this one
The lib version of First They Came ends with the following:
Then they came for me
And I went quietly because this is a completely peaceful movementWhat allies do you lose when you talk about using guns?
cia agents
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The martial law bogey man is corny as fuck when these hunger games-pilled centrists are already living in a regime that can do everything it wants with no resistance. What would “”“martial law”“” (a term the average American has no definition for) affect them materially?
