• GrouchyGrouse [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    18 days ago

    The remake of C&C/Red Alert was like $25 and was 2 games with all expansion packs, remastered graphics and a fully re-recorded soundtrack with real instruments overseen by the original composer. And modern multi-player support.

    And that franchise is owned by EA now. Aka the devil.

    Fuck this “$50 is fair” horseshit, Todd. How about you pay me $50 so I can buy a new hard drive to store your giant uncompressed mess you fuckers.

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    OK, we’ve gotta have at least one quasi-bougie pay piggie who bought the fucking thing already – this is more than just a re-skin, right? This is a full port to the Fallout 4 / Starfield vintage of the Creation engine with high detail models and full HD textures, right? anakin-padme-2

    …right?! anakin-padme-4

    Asking for a friend who will probably buy it for $15 on Steam sale in a couple of months.

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      Just pirate it. I think it’s better than a reskin from what people tell me, but it still annoys me that people are treating it like gods second coming considering Skyblivion exists.

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      Uh hi I guess that’s me lol

      It’s kinda a reskin and kinda not. They hacked the old engine to run into UE5, and re-did all the assets, while remaining extremely faithful to the OG gameplay.

      Having the old engine also means console commands etc work, which is nice, but also all the loading screens where they usually are, which means like 2/3 per large building. Not much of an issue considering how fast it loads on modern hardware.

      The re-balanced some elements of the game which were jarring (like enemies getting way over-levelled if you focused on your primary skills), but kept all the OG dialogue (and recordings) and weirdness of the OG game.

      They remade all the visuals, including the assets, but kept the original sounds (honestly the music did not age all that well, I wish they re-recorded it with actual instruments)

      I don’t feel ripped off at all, considering modern games now ask up to 80e for base version of games and this was 55e. Even ignoring the ripoff that is current day full AAA pricing, they did put a lot of work into this and I don’t think 55e is absurd.

      I hope that kind of remake is something they consider bringing to other games that aged poorly, although I would like them to actually tweak & fix some elements which I feel aged poorly.

      I think they were scared of pissing off purists by re-recording bad lines, OG oblivion treated VAs terribly and it is very much felt. Did you know they recorded the lines alphabetically? Lmao And also they should consider re-recording the music (the digital instruments sound way too plastic-y)

    • MarmiteLover123 [comrade/them, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      I’m don’t play the games, but apparently all the graphics are done in unreal engine 5 and the backend stuff is all on the latest creation engine, so it’s a full remake of the game.

      You can watch the gameplay footage on YouTube, it looks nothing like the original game, all assets, animations and lighting is completely new.

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    These people arguing prices are fair or unfair are just blowing hot hair. Doesn’t even need to be discussed.

    If people are buying it for 50, then that’s what it’s worth. Pretty soon the norm for big budget games is going to be 70.

    So, they can either spend the money and say thank you or they can put down the fucking slop tray and say I don’t want it, or they can pirate it.

    But porky knows what he’s doing. He knows that the people who can afford a rig that will run this mess can also afford a $50 pricetag. It’s like in the old Nigerian prince scams where the scammers would put in grammar mistakes deliberately in order to sort out the people too smart to fall for the scam.

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      These people arguing prices are fair or unfair are just blowing hot hair. Doesn’t even need to be discussed.

      Tell me about it, the current “conversation” surrounding the Switch 2 prices has brought out every flavor of useless and silly hot take.

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    I love original Oblivion, and I surely hope the remaster is an improvement. But this is true self-flagellation.

    Either someone just trying to self-justify a purchase they fear wasn’t justified, or just bootlicking. My response would be that piracy is the only incredibly fair price.

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    “It’s a fair price”. Yeah sure, carry water for megacorps who would have loved to charge 50 million if they thought they could get away with it.

    Stop having empathy for treathogs who want to clean your bank account for their own vanity. Become a treatsky and demand they get the shit end of the stick every time.

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    Nostalgia seems to be an infinite money glitch with how well this appears to be selling. Not long ago, I played the original a little but quit after remembering how boring Oblivion is.

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    It’s a completely remade game though, you can see it just from watching some gameplay footage on YouTube. The whole game has essentially been remade in unreal engine 5 with completely new assets, animations, etc. It’s not a typical remaster, because that would be impossible with a game from almost two decades ago, it would look terrible if the original assets were simply upscaled.

    I don’t even like the elder scrolls games, but this is not comparable to other situations where companies put out a half baked remaster with upscaled textures and call it a day. (See the GTA “remasters”). It’s also not comparable to mods or fan made stuff. The game has actually been remade from the ground up. Is that worth the price? I don’t know, I can see it being worth it if you really like oblivion. I would easily pay a similar price (if I had the money, I don’t so I’d probably wait for a discount/sale) for a remake of the PlayStation Two era Ace Combat Trilogy (4, 5 and Zero), or for remakes of the Need For Speed trilogy (Underground 2, Most Wanted and Carbon), or for a remake of just Gran Turismo 4. Call me a sucker all you like, but those games were great and it would be worth the price for me if it’s essentially a new game from the technical point of view.

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      It’s not quite a remake. The game still runs entirely on the Creation Engine. UE5 is used to render the graphics, which have been re-modeled and re-textured. Oblivion as it functioned in 2006 is under all those visual updates.

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      Believe it or not, the GTA remasters were actually made in Unreal Engine as well. You’re right though that they just straight up ripped the old textures and ai upscaled them.

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        Again, I dislike the elder scrolls games, I don’t think they’re good. I don’t play them. But there are those who do, and they’re probably enjoying this right now. I’m not trying to judge it on a subjective opinion of if the game is good or not, but in an objective way of how much effort was put into it, and if similar effort was put into games I liked from a similar time period, how I would feel about it.