I’m awfully curious as to how the author would explain away state socialists regularly reporting on the oppression of Palestinians.
They said HUMAN rights. Feddit thinks the question of Palestinian humanity requires some nuance™️, you know, just in order to comply with European law.
Tankies: we want people to be fed, clothed, sheltered, educated, employed and with access to modern infrastructure.
“Leftists who care about human rights”: that’s not human rights! Human rights means unlimited operation of foreign backed media, NGOs, political parties and foundations. That’s freedom baybee. And also (draws breath): Xinjiang holodomor tinyman square social credit gulag archipelago 1984 authoritarinism.
See, it’s like this: if you question the claim that the Poles massacred 58,000 Germans, you are a monster. That’s all that there is to it, really.
All atrocity stories that are coincidentally propagated by Western governments need to be immediately accepted at face value. No questions asked. Ever.
Yes, Western governments may make a few little mistakes from time to time, but this time around they’re telling us the truth. Don’t worry, they promise. If you don’t believe me, check out a few of these upper-class ultranationalist dissidents from China and Soviet Ukraine. Why would they lie to us?
There are still people who think Tankie is a slur, in 2026??!?! It’s an honorific.
We’ve been right about absolutely everything.
I’d bet my house that these people are still UkroNazi apologists.
Anyone who takes that bet would offer you like three bucks in exchange. Feddit and sopuli are THE raging chauvinist eurolib instances. Even world isn’t that bad.
Wow. I wasn’t familiar at all.
Anyone that listens to Israel supporters on a question about human dignity is a fucking idiot.
I stress human dignity rather than “rights” because the goal of the rights these dipshits demand is not to create human dignity but to undermine those who demand it.
You are damn right that I support doing things to the epstein class - billionaires, the financial elite, their puppets, bourgeois media, etc - that will go against their “human rights”. A tiny tiny percent of people have to be overthrown and their rights will be trodden on in the process and there is no avoiding that. This will however return human dignity to literally billions of people under the rein of their terror internationally. Not overnight, but it is the first step on the path.
Screenshot me losers. If you’re in those groups you deserve it and I expect nothing less of you than to fight us. If you’re not in those groups what the fuck are you doing fighting FOR those groups instead of yourself?
For future reference, the Mark Twain quote:
Why, it was like reading about France and the French, before the ever memorable and blessed Revolution, which swept a thousand years of such villainy away in one swift tidal wave of blood – a settlement of that hoary debt in proportion of half a drop of blood for each hogshead of it that had been pressed by slow tortures out of that people in the weary stretch of ten centuries of wrong and shame and misery the like of which was not to be mated but in hell. There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would be remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the ax compared with lifelong death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by the older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.
I will screenshot it, but only to print it, frame it, put it by my bed, and have it be the last thing I fall asleep to and the first thing I wake up to
That thread is some WimpLo level of world understanders. Holy
Holy shit I thought I was the only one who used “Wimp Lo” like this.
I never watched that film. Glad to have a new word to use to describe Liberals.
What would you expect from a Zionist instance. Right, derangement and deflection.
admits to regularly hatereading hexbear and copying our slop community
instantly gets too mad to remember what the community is for and just posts a brainless meme instead
The liberal mind is an amazing thing
It’s bad enough they fully admitted that posting and commenting on mwog was a sign a user should be completely ignored
Oh is the instance that banned antizionist sentiment lecturing the ideology that defeated the Nazis? Surely they can tell us who the real leftists that prioritize human rights are. Maybe it’s Good Citizens (wiederholen Sie auf Deutsch!) who preemptively cater to Nazi laws as quickly as possible and making no attempts at resistance or workarounds.
They defeated the nazis and they will never be forgiven for it
Yes, feddit.org is the instance that’s terrified that German law doesn’t let them be anti-genocide.
Content that is illegal in Germany, Austria or Switzerland will be deleted and can lead to an immediate ban of the account
It literally is though? 🤷
My god the mental gymnastics they go though
omgomgomg i didn’t think this was going to happen i’m flattered that the zionazi apologist noticed me
she even said Palestinian genocide for me!!umum, i gotta thank my parents, without them i’d never have made it here, my secondary school teach, without you i’d have graduated by now, trains, they’re really cool, and tanks, without you i couldn’t be a tankie! i’m sure i forgot someone, i’m so sorry!!!
“hehe look they noticed me”
yeah no shit, that was the point wasn’t it? god these people are dumb
west germany remains one of humanity’s greatest mistakesAnti communist ‘leftists’ will often attack so called tankies for not learning from the past. This post is a perfect example.
Of why they’re wrong! The lesson to take from the collapse of the Soviet Union is thst Stalin didnt Stalin enough. He was quoted to be a teddy bear compared to Lennin and I wish the Man of Steel had been made of a bit harder stuff, the mistakes of our ideology in the past was that they compromised or were compromised. We have a global extinction event in mid progress, there is no compromise left for them to offer and we wont get fooled again
Environmentalism survived—and even thrived—in Stalin’s Soviet Union, establishing levels of protection unparalleled anywhere in the world, although for only one component of the Soviet environment: the immense forests of the Russian heartland.¹
Throughout the early Soviet period, the agencies in charge of timber extraction repeatedly pressed for greater latitude, advancing visions of highly engineered, regularized woodlands while employing aggressive, revolutionary rhetoric. Yet with one quickly reversed exception, the Politburo consistently rejected the drive toward hyperindustrialism in the forest.
After briefly capitulating to the industrialists’ unrelenting attacks on conservationism in 1929, Stalin’s government reversed course, and in the 1930s and 1940s set aside ever larger tracts of Russia’s most valuable forests as preserves, off-limits to industrial exploitation. Forest protection ultimately rose to such prominence during the last six years of Stalin’s rule that the Politburo took control of the Soviet forest away from the Ministry of Heavy Industry, and elevated the nation’s forest conservation bureau to the dominant position in implementing policy.
The results of this struggle for supremacy in the forest, which pitted the party leadership against those very bureaucratic interests assigned to carry out the party’s industrial ambitions, show that environmental protection could find a place in a rapidly industrializing [government] as aggressive as Stalin’s—provided that the reasons given for protection were sufficiently pragmatic, and the supporting faction sufficiently powerful.
(Source.)
Damn. Didn’t know about that. As a big forest enjoyer myself, good work.
It can be true simultaneously that there are many people who should have been purged but weren’t and that many shouldn’t have been purged but were (or could have been dealt with in a manner other than execution).
I wasnt even thinking of purges, I was thinking of ww2
Could you tell me about how he was too soft during WW2?
Didn’t stop at Berlin
So you would say that he should have invaded Europe, and fought with several European powers along with the US on top of Japan after suffering the catastrophic caused by the Nazis? The first nuclear bombs would have been dropped on the USSR, and honestly I think the US would have been willing to ally with Japan for the sake of fighting the Communist Menace in that circumstance considering historical stances people like Truman took regarding potentially supporting Germany against the USSR to start with.
Solid points. I was being hyperbolic in the first place and just having fun. But yeah, getting nuked would have been bad. Getting nukes earlier wasnt really an option either…
i wouldn’t be as flippant as that, a continuation of the war would have been its own sort of horror.
however, the yalta/potsdam settlement was a negotiated surrender of communists movements globally in exchange for a soviet sphere in eastern europe. greek communists were explicitly told to stand down, communist movements in france/italy were pressured to disarm and pursue parliamentary path.
there were revolutionary opportunities that were squandered, but it was a no-win scenario. the allies made it clear that turning eastern europe into a radioactive crater would be their defense plan, and the timing of that contributed to the decision that was made
I like how they overlooked my comment mentioning how we regularly report on Palestinians’ oppression. It’s like this schlemiel is so invested in dunk culture that they would rather shitpost all day than engage with any intellectually stimulating content (for once).
They’re not allowed to say Palestine or die Polizei will arrest them for anti Zionism. /s
And didn’t even screenshot me? Damn. This is almost as devastating as not making the tesseract blocklist.
Like, they could have claimed I took the quote about PJ completely out of context, even!
And didn’t even screenshot me? Damn. This is almost as devastating as not making the tesseract blocklist.
Get Owned Nerd, i was in both
no fair
I wouldnt think there’s enough substance to make an ideology purely out of disdain for specifically Russia and China but there they are. Although now that I type this out this is what liberals claim communists do, that we simply dislike the west and praise the west’s enemies unconditionally and without ideological attachment.
I’ve also literally never seen a anti-tankie criticism of what communists want domestically, like in terms of policy. I’ve seen criticisms of domestic orgs but they’re just claims that leftists take money from China or marching orders from Russian intelligence or whatever. The closest thing I’ve ever seen is when libs got mad at communists for refusing to vote for Joe Biden because he’s a genocidal criminal. Libs claimed we were supporting Trump by default but that just ties back around to calling us Russian assets.
to forgive the oppressors of humanity is cruelty, to persecute them is clemency
Is that a quote? If you made it up yourself. It goes really fucking hard
To punish the oppressors of humanity is clemency; to forgive them is cruelty.
- Maximilien de Robespierre
Despite being french dude was spittin
The only good liberal
It’s an inversion of what he said, though
I read it backwards the first time.
Haha, I am being a bit imprecise and also misreading a bit myself - the meaning is effectively the same in the end. I’m not much for forgiving billionaires though.
I just remembered I speak french and tried to find the quote in what I supposed was the original language. Search engines are fucking useless now. Anyway, found it and was a bit curious cause English translations of french tend to fuck up how a sentence should be ordered and getting it backwards made me curious. Anyway, I was just flip flopped and the translation is really literal
It should be explained that in Germany and France, liberal doesn’t mean what it means in anglo countries. Germans and the French understand “liberal” as “libertarian”.
Guys where was Marx from again
wait Marx was fr*nch??
That’s going too far, even for a joke
With leftists who care about human rights like these, who needs fascists.
Scratch a liberal, moderate wing, yada yada
The fact that they use liberal like a slur is hilarious
Careful, you’re going to make the fascists mad
Slur means insult now apparently. Definitely not degrading the baggage behind the term “slur”. Liberals would never do something like that.
I kinda think feddit should commit add liberal to their slur filter
The people on Lemmy who spend their lives posting about tankies are the saddest people on earth. If I spent all my time being mad online about stuff I’d do something else, that shit is bad for you psyche
At least we’re mad online about the ideology of the global hegemon instead of being mad at mainly some westerners who dislike the hegemonic ideology and things like genocide.
Lmao NATO leftists being useless as always.
