https://xcancel.com/APUkraine/status/2087118882402169134
According to Soviet intelligence, in the early 1930’s. Evgeny Konovalets twice personally met with Hitler, who, in particular, proposed to send a group of Ukrainian nationalists to study at the Nazi party school in Leipzig. According to the Polish statement, the first such meeting took place even before the arrival of the National Socialists to power - in September 1932. After the meeting with Hitler, Konovalets in his article “Hitler and Ukrainian Affairs”, published in the UV newspaper “On the guard”, called on Ukrainian nationalists “to become a dense Cossack system on the side of Hitler, which will create a gateway to the East”[1]
On 23 May 1938, he was assassinated in Rotterdam by a bomb concealed in a box of chocolates disguised as a present from a close friend. The friend had actually been an NKVD agent
“Another
Naziavowed anti communist killed by the Red Menace”-Black Book ‘scholars’
Based
Can Ukraine stop doing Russian propaganda for 1 fucking second?
Unfortunately not. Russia forces them to continually memorialize Nazis. 😔
Lmao this got posted on lemmy.ml and of course got a bunch of down votes from libs
I’ve noticed that when I mention Ukraine’s reverence of Nazi collaborators, the pro-Ukrainian types on here never want to talk about it and never reply.
They know they’ve got 4 options; admit that the Ukrainian government enthusiastically celebrates the UPA and Nazi collaborators, which is a very bad look. Deny it outright (they can’t because it’s objective fact). Dismiss it as Russian propaganda and/or claim Russia are the real Nazis. Or just straight up ignore it and don’t address it.
I’ve seen some just outright saying that calling them nazis makes Ukrainians embrace nazism to troll Russian propagandists.
Liberal version of this:
“Since you call me a Nazi, I adhere to the doctrine of Adolf Eichmann, and I will do everything in my power to ensure that you and your children never live on this earth,” Sharafmal said.
“You have to understand that this is not about peace; it is about the victory of the Ukrainian people,” he continued. “We need victory. And if we have to massacre all your families to do it, I’ll be one of the first to do it.”
Those are real words of a Ukrainian Live TV host
https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2022/03/16/ukraine-tv-host-genocide-russians-nazi-adolf-eichmann/
Yep the .ml post had 7 down votes and no comments other than people pointing that out.
My goto question for most people especially western “anarchists” is “do people in Donbas region have a right to self determination or not?”
They are going to scream about decolonization and forget that Ukrainians are colonialists in Southern Ukraine and Crimea too- even the cossack culture has colonial aspects to it and is DEFINITELY linked to “tamer of the wastes, slayer of the comanche” imagery for their chauvinists.
No, in this case western interests are best served by focusing on the idea of territorial integrity. Self determination is only for kurds.
Self determination is only when it’s about balkanizing a state which resists imperialism.
the pro-Ukrainian types on here never want to talk about it and never reply.
Taps sign
Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
It applies to all reactionaries, but especially zionists and neo-nazis.
Link?
https://lemmy.ml/post/51259368
@ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com here’s the link btw
Lmao at his portrait.
Wait they exhumed and made another nazi a national hero???
The Netherlands is exhuming him on behalf of Ukraine, but essentially yes.
Should raise many alarm bells that this keeps happening
Really need a master list with as many examples as possible of these types of things. Just a long timeline of Ukraine supporting Nazis
With the assistance of the Netherlands. Once again, 80 something years later. Friends reunited.
honestly i think we should disturb and rebury nazis like once a week? mix and match their parts? shame their living relatives a little, as a treat?
I’d rather throw them into an industrial grade bulk waste grinder and be done with it myself, but I can see the appeal.
Ground into paste and right into the manure silo.
Probably want to separate some of the constituent components first.
For example debone them to make bone meal.
It would be extremely wasteful but my vote is shoot into the sun
Without the state funeral, sure
honestly i think we should disturb and
rebury nazis like once a week?
Europe’s embrace of Fascism is a very good example of why China has been fixating on internal stability over international socialist expansion. Soviet Union became a socialist pariah that couldn’t even reproduce it’s own political party, the more it tried to accelerate the more eager and unified all the Capitalists were in making sure they do everything in their power to destroy it.
I dread what it’s going to take to re-establish some semblance of peaceful co-existence in Europe.
Don’t get me wrong it’s not like everyone living here is a bloodthirsty fascist, but they’re not going to do anything about them.
it’s not like everyone living here is a bloodthirsty fascist
That’s not the impression I get, Europeans in my experience are smug assholes that have a thin veneer of compassionate liberalism that encases their bloodthirsty Nazism.
Certainly the guy was a fan of Chaplin.
Smol bean Nazis nothing to do with the government tho!!!
Superficial but I gotta say it: middle school shop class ass coffin. Like damn.
ok maybe I’m outing myself as a useless loser who doesn’t know woodworking, but what’s wrong with the coffin? it looks fine to me
Is it just too simplistic? I see all the layers are kinda blocky and uninteresting, kinda first Minecraft house vibes
Zooming in on the near corner, it looks like the edges don’t really line up but also maybe I was being too mean
All this historical revisionism is interesting. It was similar in Croatia. And after 2014 Crimea, Ukrainians really looked up to Croatian operation Oluja which similarly had nazi-collaboristic undertones. But no nazi policies were ever enacted, its just an echo from the past when nazis supported national-emancipists across eastern-central Europe.
