• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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    Beshear should call their bluff, and announce the Democratic replacement. Let MAGA sue to stop him, and they’ll be forced to provide proof of life.

    If they can show proof he’s alive, then fine, MAGA wins, and the case is over. But if they can’t, then the case will also evaporate, and then they’ll have to answer for hiding the death from the citizens, and people should go to jail.

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      It’s beyond frustrating that this hasn’t happened already. 1000% chance that the Republicans would do this as soon as a Democrat senator went under for surgery.

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    The question is when it’s out in the open that he died and the government is proven to have used a generated image to lie…

    What will happen? Consequences? Doubt.

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    He’s passed on! This senator is no more! He has ceased to be! He’s expired and gone to meet his maker! He’s a stiff! Bereft of life, he rests in peace! If they hadn’t nailed him to the hospital bed he’d be pushing up the daisies! His metabolic processes are now history! He’s off the twig! He’s kicked the bucket, he’s shuffled off his mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the choir invisible!! HE IS AN EX-SENATOR!!

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      Well, we’d better replace it, then.

      Sorry squire, I’ve had a look 'round the back of the shop, and uh, we’re right out of Senators.

      I got a slug turtle?

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    Excellent revival of a classic meme. Love to see it! Seriously though the world’s top-class physicists have to look into this quantum phenomenon. Clearly we can’t go and check ourselves because we would perturb the system by observing it.

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    All I know is that if I stopped showing up to work for this long and there was this much doubt as to my state of being, my access and accounts would for sure be shut off and my paychecks would stop coming.

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    This is exactly like the people saying “is Trump a pedo? I’m not sure?!” Yes you are. He’s a pedo. And Mcconell is dead.

    Americans needs to stop playing into fascists little games. You’re looking at a puzzle missing one piece and you’re all pretending you can’t figure out what it’s depicting.

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      fascists little games

      Bro. You’re in a POLICE STATE. Donald Trump, amongst other things, is a pedophile, but he’s being used as bait in a large scale sting operation. I say this as someone who had to be a crackhead because he wasn’t good enough to be a pothead, which is a festival cop. Y’know those crazy homeless people that ride the subway or at the bus station or whatever, mouthing off, doing drugs, and somehow never getting arrested? Yea, those are cops, crackhead is the term used, but we do different things at different levels. Like, Epstein is still alive because he was a Mossad agent, and thus a cop. The Clintons are cops. Hunter Biden is a cop. It’s a police state. How do you catch millionaires selling children, well you gotta network with those people, right? See what they’re up to? Trust. Trust is important. How many inhuman, disgusting, human-trafficking international elites do you think have propositioned the orange cop-in-chief with something heinous? This game of outhinking the criminal outhinking the state is quite old. The New Testament describes a decentralized autonomous organization of secret police at an eighth grade reading level. Get with the program, retard.

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          I have to be a dickhead because I am an educator with an educational art project aiming to teach philosophy, spirituality, and mental health skills to help specifically those who cause all their suffering but refuse to try to learn how to overcome themselves, much as my past self was, and so the idea is I play an exaggerated caricature of my past self who likes his sister’s feet too much that he has them in a glass jar on his desk. And I say weird shit like that and be a dingus because that’s what gets people to go digging through my profile because everyone loves to crane their neck at a trainwreck. Love ya!

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        The reason Trump is being used, besides being a major fnord-type distraction for the masses, is because he is a con-artist. He’s a piece of shit, really. I cannot think of a more corrupt caricature of bloated American evil. That’s why the trap works. The idea of being a crackhead is that you play an autobiographical character at all times. The president of the galaxy in Hitchhiker’s Guide had two heads; he was two-faced. He can lie well and distract the masses while being a listening post to people who would proposition corrupt, American oligarchs.

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      That will never work. Nobody will believe he’s still alive if we haven’t heard him say something stupid in a couple of weeks. He can’t stay out of the spotlight. It wouldn’t be long before his absence was too obvious.

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    In theory, HIPAA is in play here so, without consent, no one can say anything to the public about the specific patient and their medical details.

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      HIPPA does not overrule the responsibility of a senator to represent his constituents. If he is unable to perform the duty, then he forfeits the seat.

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    They sent out the following proof of life pic:

    Even IF we assume that it’s genuine, the left side of his face is severely drooping and his wife seems to have to hold him up on the same side. Both indicators of paralysis of the entire left side of his body, likely due to a massive stroke.

    I’m no geologist, but in my strictly non-electrician estimation, it’s extremely unlikely that a stroke that bad doesn’t leave him too cognitively impaired to adequately do his job of evaluating and deciding matters of the utmost importance for 340 million people.

    I’m not licensed to teach judo, though.

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      I’d go so far as to say it doesn’t even really matter at this point. If he’s alive, he’s 84 years old and from previous videos we’ve seen him fall over multiple times and blank out for long stretches mid-sentence, and he’s currently been hospitalized for over a month. He’s not physically or mentally fit to hold office. Or, he’s dead which is also traditionally a barrier to employment.

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        To be fair though, he’d be a better senator as a corpse than he was while he was alive.

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      I’m calling BS on that picture. If he’s in a long term hospital stay he is going to be in a gown, he’s going to have a medical bracelet, an IV, possibly oxygen and he’s going to look like hot shit because no one who has been in the hospital looks good even when they are on the road to recovery. The man isn’t even wearing a pulseox. If you’ve ever gone through it with a loved one, you know exactly what I’m talking about. So either they shoved a sick old man in jeans in a button down for a photo op (doubt) or that photo is fake as fuck. I also find the tag being on the outside of that button down shirt suspicious as fuck in an AI is stupid kind of way.

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        One photo? They went to all that trouble to remove the IV, etc., get showered, shave, haircut, dress him up, and pose with the wife, and they only have ONE PHOTO?

        Wouldn’t they take a few, in different poses, showing him looking at her, posing with his doctor and nurses (as long as he’s dressed and looking good), etc.? One dumb photo?

        Let’s see the outtakes.

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        they shoved a sick old man in jeans in a button down for a photo op (doubt)

        Not that I don’t agree with your general point and conclusion (I do), but the Republican propaganda ghouls would ABSOLUTELY do that.

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          Oh I agree, but the nursing staff in most ICUs are pretty good about shutting that kind of shit down.

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            A lot of those usual standards and practices go completely out the window when people this powerful show up at the hospital’s door. They’re not relying on the ordinary hospital security, for example. When a nurse tells them to stop, but an FBI or Secret Service agent commands them to not interfere, how many nurses would try to stand up to the feds? And even if they did, they would just be immediately escorted out of the room.

            These people do not live in the same world you and I do.

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        The tag is normal. I have shirts with the tag like that.

        I personally suspect they photo oped a (barely) living corpse. Likely with a good dose of drugs to have him cognitive enough to sit up for a few minutes before wearing off.

        If it’s AI, then it’s a minor (but critical) modification to an existing picture. Not one created fully. It’s a lot easier to cover its mistakes when it’s limited in scope.

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          Yeah, AI generating from scratch is far more error-prone than AI doing a few tweaks.

          Not to mention Photoshop (other image alteration software is available), not to mention pre-Photoshop image doctoring (see the USSR flying their flag over the Reichstag or photos of Stalin pictured with purged comrades).

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          Yeah exactly. Look how he’s holding the newspaper. He’s not holding it up like “aha here’s my proof of life!” It’s more like “someone sat me up and told me to hold this but I don’t know why.”

          My grandma had dementia so we might be able to get a picture of her looking at a camera, but we wouldn’t have been able to get her to do something specific for a photo, like hold up a newspaper. Same thing going on here.

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            It’s the eyes to me. Defocused and drifting. Combined with the drooping face, just screams stroke. If that’s the best photo they could get, his brain is likely a barely functional soup. Particularly given the drugs they likely have available to turbo charge what’s left.

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            That looks like angle and/lens distortion to me. The camera looks a little fishy eyed, so the lines can bend slightly towards the edges.

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        I mean, it’s a proof of life photo for a Senator. It’s entirely possible they dressed him up for it. These people are nothing but appearances.

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        If your talking about the tag at the bottom of the shirt, below the buttons, I have a shirt that has a tag like that. So sadly, that item isn’t an indicator of anything hokey 🫤

        It does seem odd that he is dressed and looking like he’s just waiting to be given the ok for discharge, when apparently he has not been.
        I could see a public figure getting a bit done up while staying in, if they expected to have a handful of visitors for photo ops and press releases, when again, apparently he has not, aside from this one odd pic.

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      When the picture was released, the added information mentioned a “light” pneumonia. That is the shit you get if you can’t swallow correctly anymore, and is one of the main killers of people who suffer strokes. If he was lying around for a few hours before he found him, his brain scans will probably show severe brain damage on his right side brain. He might recover enough faculties to not die for the next years, but i see no way for him to come back and work.

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      As OP said we still have no proof of life. This doctored photo of two people who looks 10 years younger than they do on any recent photo of them, proves nothing at all.

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    He’s dead. They’re testing how willing the public is to believe their AI is a person.

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    Anything to stretch it past August 4th. Literally anything. Guarantee they will announce his death or retirement on August 5th.