Just like with everything else, his Art of the Deal leaves us with less than what we had before.

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    Vance’s admission contradicts what he said on Friday, when he claimed in an X post that Iran would not be “receiving any cash, and no funds are being released simply for signing a deal or attending a meeting.” In addition to the U.S. and its allies paying $300 billion in reconstruction funds, Iran reports that the U.S. has agreed to release $25 billion in frozen Iranian assets.

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      It will go from out of the pockets of the US working class, into the pockets of the politicians who serve the US ruling class and the into the hands of the government of Iran who will promise to serve the interests of the US ruling class.

      This isn’t progress for the workers of the world. This is the US ruling class trying to secure their economic position in the region, and the working class in the US and abroad will pay - it might not be felt immediately, but every advance of US imperialism means the lowering of the quality of life for all working class people.

      We need to unite as a class internationally.

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    So now can we call it? The american empire is done, please just lets call it.

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    Remember when those cocksuckers complained about democrats giving Iran their own money back in exchange for a nuclear agreement? Now we’re giving them half a trillion just so they’ll go back to the status quo from a year ago?

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    We raped Iran, and then paid them off to shut them up. Yep, Trump definitely negotiated this.

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      Art of the deal, indeed.

      When do I get a refund for all the extra money I paid for fuel over the past few months? My job involves driving - I’ve put about 5,000 miles on my car since the beginning of April - so I’m definitely noticing the difference.

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        If you drive for work and pay for your own gas too you’re also getting fucked. We all are but like, that’s extra fucked. I really hope you get paid a whole lot, enough to offset that cost, it seems backwards to drive for work AND pay for the gas.

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        US citizens serving on the home front during WWII sacrificed all sorts of basic foods and materials, all to help the war effort and, you know, defeat the spread of fascism. Today, we paid out the ass to fill our cars up at the pump for months, just so we could drive to work. And all so Trump could accomplish…nothing. Absolutely fucking nothing. He fucked with the stock market for a bit, and then capitulated like the fat fucking bitch that he is. And the people who support him, probably the people most affected by all of this bullshit, will still support him.

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    It’s nice to know they were able to spend my tax dollars rebuilding Iran after they spent my tax dollars destroying Iran. I’m very happy the prices on everything went up so they could do that.

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    For fucks sake, why the fuck does anyone believe this will hold until its supposed to be signed on Friday

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      A fraction of what your regular military budget is. Hell, a fraction of what the government already pays for healthcare.

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      How much has this cost the USA?

      When you consider how much we’d lose continuing to fight the war, it’s a net gain.

      The cost was bombing Iran to begin with, not paying reparations for the damage done.

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          Needed to do something to distract from the epstein files, they were getting to much attention.

          and it worked.

          Whens the last time you saw media mention epstein? now that they’ve been spoonfed their constant IV of controversy with regards to the baseless attack on Iran?

          The market manipulation with constant monday/friday announcements were just a happy bonus for their benefactors… and whens the last time you saw media mention this, either?

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            and it worked

            The CBS buyout and the AI infestation of media has done more to quell Epstein talk than the war.

            What we’re experiencing outside a few niche social media holdouts is an automated smothering of discourse.

            now that they’ve been spoonfed their constant IV of controversy with regards to the baseless attack on Iran?

            You can trace this kind of journalism back to the Clinton Administration. It’s not new.

            What is new is the gobbling up of public broadcasters and news outlets and media feeds.

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      The thing is, Congress is in bed with defense primes. This made them a lot of money. The american people on the other hand…

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        Really? My murder based stocks went down over this. They did not exactly cover themselves with glory, and it cost a lot of business outside the states. I really wish I could buy murder stocks from South Korea or Europe.

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      How much has this cost the USA?

      Probably a lot on bombs, fuel, inflation etc. but this isn’t really costing us anything. These were funds that Iran held in the US prior to trump pulling out of the iran deal the first time and were frozen because of sanctions. So it’s more returning money that we stole rather then paying Iran with US taxpayer money.

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        Would it even cost one bomber to buy their entire system and have it shipped here?

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          See, that’s the thing though - he doesn’t. He never pays his own debts and never spends a dollar he doesn’t have to when it comes to his own money. When it comes to taxpayer money though? He’ll firehose that shit in whatever direction he feels like.

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      He never pays with his money, this isn’t his money and if gas prices go down a fairly large percentage of americans will say “we kicked Iran’s ass”.

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      That’s a good idea! Trump should get a loan to pay that himself. Maybe a 50year loan? A Wargage! It’s a mortgage for wars. Let’s say you can’t pay right now, but you would really like to get rid of some country. You get a Wargage and just pay the minimum for 50 years! Get your family members into it to help you and you could own a war in no time! We just need a billion down payment and some collateral.

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        This is low key a good premise for a bit. Maybe add banker jargon, something about FHA loans and FAFSA applications and an intergalactic bank holding Trump personally responsible for billions

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      It’s not Trump’s money. He’d give them trillion’s of US taxpayers’ money if it made him look better.

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      It is to be paid by the Gulf coast coalition, so yes, Iran will see the money.

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        The gulf coasts will pay, Israel will violate the peace, and the money will be gone. The only way this holds is if Israel provides guarantors for the peace that will live in Iran. Preferably Ben Gvir and Netenyahus kids.

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          Why only send a couple, when you can send the whole Knesset? Someone needs to dig the tunnels again that were destroyed. No tools, bare hands.

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        Regardless of where the money comes from, handing over $300 billion to Iran after we attacked them is a bad look.

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          I can’t fathom there being a good look at the end of this. The decapitation strike was stupidly underbaked, the later attacks were poorly orchestrated, the broad lack of planning seemed almost intentional. We spent money to lose money, and kill children.

          Honestly, I’m seeing a lot of parallels with the Russia/georgia/ukraine situation with the US/venezuela/iran

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          Not to his base, as soon as gas drops a Lil bit they will be screaming “fuck yeah we showed them not to fuck with us” meanwhile Iran is probably going to come out ahead in all this (except for human life ,which doesn’t seem to bother their leadership)

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            The Persian gulf area petro states, or their leaders, have profited really well from the combination of American military and American thirst. Usually I bet they’re happy to throw a little cash wherever we say. But being in the hook for this much money because Trump attacked for no reason and no planning? That has to make them unhappy.

            Yet more losing the influence we once had. Winning!?!?

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            Regardless of where the money comes from,

            I’m aware of where JD Vance is claiming the money will come from.

            It doesn’t matter. It still looks really fucking bad.

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      • Americans will be bankrupted by the Iran Deal

      • Iranians are stupid if they think the Americans will pay what they agree

      Somehow these are two bad things that we’re supposed to juggle in our heads simulateously.

      Where is the American liberal out saying “Holy fuck, we were wrong to attack and Iran deserves far more than the pittance Trump is offering”? Where is the American liberal saying “The Federal government should not continue to be allowed to welch on it’s debts to the people it has wronged. We must hold future administrations to the task of reparations we’ve agreed to today”?

      Instead, it’s just a litany of “Trump Bad! Trump Bad!” as though the rest of the federal system wasn’t rubber stamping this Holocaust from day one.

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    Hm, so the teabaggers kept going on and on (and on) about Obama’s deal and now DonOLD is talking about 300 billion in reparations?

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      Unfortunately they won’t care about the $300 billion at all, because it’ll never appear on Fox News or their safe spaces on social media. At most they’ve already signaled it will be completely lied about as an “investment fund” that will imply some value in return without promising, follow-up or accountability.

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      For reparations NOW. That’s IF we stop bombing them NOW. THIS price will only go UP.

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        Even then the price will go up, now that they have a strong bargaining position and understand exactly where to put their leverage. Be ready for them to “renegotiate” in a year

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        The Israelis will never tolerate peace in that region. This is a temporary ceasefire at best until the US midterm elections pass.

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          What on earth would the midterms change? The D party is even more corrupted by Israel than the R party.

          “My job is to fight for Israel, and all that Israel needs” —D leader Chuck Schumer