Another acceptable response: Flashbacks.
Hair. Big sword.
“Oh yeah? Name one character from every game.”
“Cid.”
Biggs & Wedge!
One, not two! SMH my head
By far the best. I’ve laughed so much at this.
Came here to say the same
Mog!
Yeah, that’s on me for not being more specific.
Name 7 plot points? I’ve got this:
- this religion is a cult! Let’s kill God!
- “fuck you dad!”
- main cast commit terrorism
- manmade horrors beyond comprehension
- the villain was kinda right?
- beware men with unnatural hair colours
- memory loss
How about:
- Magic/Magitech doesn’t kill people, people kill people. (VI)
- Killing an illegal alien and her “child” makes you a hero. (VII)
- Burn the Witches. (VIII)
- Never trust a polycule with an overweight woman, a twink, a group in robes, and a geezer. (IX)
- One of these teens will die by the end and they know it, but they will hide this fact from their lover for some reason. (X)
- You’ve been marked by a demon. Do what they say and die, or don’t and become a monster. (XIII)
- Celebrity deathmatch: who will be the ultimate (E)icon? (XVI)
Note: Only intended to be a silly joke. None of the above reflects my opinion on anything in the real world, to be fully and unambiguously clear.
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Amnesia is an extremely common trope in Japanese fiction: anime, manga, and games. At this point I’d say it’s reaching cliche status.
They also almost always get the symptoms of amnesia wrong: the characters forget who they are. In real life amnesia cases that basically never happens. People can forget a lot of other things but they never forget who they are.
Jokes on you, literally every game has time travel.
If you consider that we are all traveling through time, at the speed of regular time.
I used to travel at 1 second per second. I still do, but I used to too.
I don’t recall time travel in 4, 6, 7, or 13? 10 could be added to the list considering Tidus’s real history
Woooosh
The bad guy is going to destroy the world!
We have to kill god!
Chocobos love gysahl greens.
Time travel isn’t that common though? The series is pretty overarching but I can only remember a handful few.
Some just have the implication of time travel, or summons that feel like time travel. Or hidden bosses that feel like time travel.
Final Fantasy 1 - Yeah but barely
Final Fantasy 2 - Dunno, i hate that game
Final Fantasy 3 - You acctually unfrozen a world frozed in time/space, does count ?
Final Fantasy 4 - Moon Aliens
Final Fantasy 5 - Acctually you reunited two halves of a world rifted apart for everyone safety
Final Fantasy 6 - Funny Clown Man became God
Final Fantasy 7 - Ecoterrorists and mommy issues
Final Fantasy 8 - Now that’s acctually have propely time travel.
Final Fantasy 9 - I don’t care, i just love Zidane little shenanigans
Final Fantasy 10 - People die and Yuna keep dancing
Final Fantasy 11 - Not very fondly on MMOs
Final Fantasy 12 - Is the Middle East all over again but with magic nuclear bombs and some of the hardest summon bosses.
Final Fantasy 13 - Basically where i gave up the main series
FF4 kind of has time travel. Land of Summons has different timescale which is how Rydia age progresses. But… is that time travel? Time relativity and age progression?
11 - Yes, it’s central to the 4th expansion pack, Wings fo the Goddess
X and X-2 have so much time travel.
X: People die because they got sucked in by time travelling monster
X-2: Recovering time-travelling boyfriend by astral-projecting to sing the songs of a 100 year old pop-star who is also Yuna but… Time travel?
Edit: I would also accept the “alternate realities” interpretation from comments below, but I’d say travelling between alternate realities is covered under the general umbrella of “time travel”.
None of X is actually time travel though. Thats what was so great about the game.
Major spoilers below.
Spoiler
X: Sin never time travels to my knowledge. Yu Yevon infects the final summoning that was used to defeat the last Sin in order to create the new Sin. The final summon is created from one of the summoner’s guardians, and the summoner dies in the summoning process.
Throughout most of the game, it’s assumed that Tidus traveled 1000 years into the future, but it’s later revealed that he came from dream Zanarkand that was created by the Fayth. No time travel actually occurred, and Tidus always existed in the present time.
X-2: Again, Tidus never traveled through time. He also still has his memories of Yuna and their relationship, implying this is the same Tidus from before. Still no time travel.
The 100 year old pop star who looks like Yuna, and with a partner who looks like Tidus, that’s just history rhyming. All of the relevant information for Yuna was conveyed via video spheres, which are no more time travel than watching old videos is time travel.
What’s wild to consider is that Dream Zanarkand existed as an island somewhere on Spira.
Though this begs more questions…
How long has it existed?
I think it’s safe to say that the flashbacks Tidus has are not implanted, since Jecht also existed and they sent Jecht first.
So it has probably been there since Jecht was born?
This whole-ass city is just floating around out there somewhere, Sin has ignored it for decades, and it has modern day tech.
You’re telling me they couldn’t have dreamt of some fucking nukes or something?
“Tidus is the nuke”
TIDUS IS A WHINGY CRYBABY TWINK
My understanding was always that Yu Yevon and the Fayth created dream Zanarkand and Sin just before Zanarkand was destroyed by Bevelle, in order to preserve its memory.
I also seem to recall that Sin protected dream Zanarkand from discovery or interference to preserve its own ongoing existence, since Sin was constantly being summoned by the Fayth.
So wait, why did Sin then attack Zanarkand?
Did Jehct pull a fast one when Yu Yevon was having a nap?
Also how the hell did Jehct leave in the first place?
Did Dream Zanarkand stop existing after Sins attack?
Or was it still there, licking its wounds while Tidua played blitzball with the country folk?
By that point, Jecht was Sin, he had asked Auron (who was unsent by then) to watch over Tidus in dream Zanarkand, and wanted to bring Tidus to Spira. That was the cause of the attack at the beginning of the game.
Jecht went from Zanarkand to Spira by swimming out too far and coming into contact with the previous incarnation of Sin while it was still healing, I think?
Dream Zanarkand did still exist after that attack, otherwise Sin wouldn’t have existed throughout the game. That’s why when Sin is defeated before the eternal calm, Tidus also goes to the farplane with the Fayth. Either both exist, or neither exist.
So many better examples in the comments; hell even Dragon Quest has more time travel in it than FF, lol.
Edit: people keeping score: 1, 8, 11, 13-2 and 14 have some form of time travel. 10 is debatable, as it’s complicated (and not time travel but spoilers to explain) but understandable if you think Tidus got zooped into the future. Oh and 15 has a time skip stasis, but I’m not counting that.
Only 8 and 13-2 have it as central theme, and 10s fake time travel. In 1 it’s a small thing regarding the big bad but pretty neat, 11 it’s an expansion, 14 is a location.
7r has a kind of time travel, right? Or I guess that’s more an alternative dimension…
I know only 8 and 10 does time travel. Is there any other?
10 doesn’t, unless the sequels retconned it too.
1 and XIII-2 do. Dissidia 012 likely too as a few characters in their original games exist in different points of history. Bravely Second and Kingdom Hearts too if you consider them part of the franchise. Can’t remember any others.
Didn’t Tidus time travel to the future or something at the beginning after Sin attacked?
No.
Explanation (spoilers)
He’s an Aeon, like the ones Yuna summons, just made in the image of someone who lived 1000 years before, and Tidus being unaware of the fact. But the in-game theory of time travel comes from Tidus’ Zanarkand being a bustling city while Spira’s hasn’t been so for a millennia, and is further fed by Wakka, who, listening to the theory, gets the stage of denial from grief triggered, thinking his brother, who was felled by Sin, must be some_when_ else instead.
Huh. So Auron is also an Aeon? I haven’t proper finish it so i can’t remember this.
No, but Jecht was.
Auron came from Spira, was killed by Yunalesca after Braska summoned his final Aeon (he became disillusioned with the religion after losing both of his friends at its hands, and attacked her), and was never sent to the farplane by a summoner.
He then traveled to dream Zanarkand to watch over Tidus as he had promised Jecht.
About Auron and Aeons (spoilers)
Aeons are weaponized ghosts, in short. Auron, after dying, became a ghost, not an Aeon (that’d require someone capable of tinkering with ghosts and someone to summon the manipulated ghost) and found his way to the illusion (Dream) Zanarkand to honor a request from Tidus’ father. And the Dream Zanarkand is part of the summoning that keeps both Tidus and Sin alive.
Okay i need to replay that game, i have no idea what you’re talking about hahaha
Spoilers ahead! Kinda complicated but short answer no, he existed in a dream Zanarkand that is a replica of a city that actually existed 1000 years ago, but he didn’t. I’m fuzzy on the details but you could Google it for more info
If FFXIV counts, it has it too.
Final Fantasy 7 Remake also has time travel, technically.
It has alternate worlds, not time travel
In fact, that’s mostly all of them. 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13… All about worlds/realities colliding
Does the world of ruin in VI really count? It’s the same world, but forever changed.
The VII/X Shinra connection is also supposed to be the same world/reality, just different planets.
IX I also interpreted as two planets merging, but I can see the argument since there is clearly something magical/metaphysical happening.
VIII is also the same world/reality in my opinion, but with clear time travel and time compression.
XIII/XIII-2 are…complicated, but I’ll give you this one.
Does the world of ruin in VI really count?
The world of the Espers isn’t ruined until its neighbors start looting it for magic.
IX I also interpreted as two planets merging, but I can see the argument since there is clearly something magical/metaphysical happening.
Goes beyond interpretation. They’re pretty explicit that Zidane and Kuja are both from another world. The last chapter of the game takes place on the other planet, if I’m not mistaken.
VIII is also the same world/reality in my opinion, but with clear time travel and time compression.
That’s fair. I forgot the time compression plot-line.
XIII/XIII-2 are…complicated, but I’ll give you this one.
Well, XIII is canonically a planet at war with its neighboring moon (Pulse and Cocoon), if I’m not totally mistaken. I’ll spot you that they sprinkling in a lot of extra meta-physics with XIII-2, but I didn’t like XIII enough to play it.
Really like the core conceit of the story, but was not thrilled with the combat mechanics or the “Just walk down this very, very long hallway until you get to the end of the game” mechanic.
The world of the Espers isn’t ruined until its neighbors start looting it for magic.
Ah fair point, I somehow forgot about the world of Espers.
Goes beyond interpretation. They’re pretty explicit that Zidane and Kuja are both from another world. The last chapter of the game takes place on the other planet, if I’m not mistaken.
I would argue that the last chapter of the game takes place in a magical/metaphysical manifestation of the planet’s memories that is physically located above the Iifa tree. That’s why Kuja ends up inside of the Iifa tree, below where Memoria was.
Throughout the game we see various locations from Terra that have merged with Gaia, and when going through the portal on the shimmering island we see Terra itself. My understanding was always that Terra was physically within Gaia due to a failed fusion between the two planets, as shown within Memoria.
Also, Zidane and Kuja being from “another world” meant “another planet within the same reality” in my interpretation within this specific context. It’s entirely possible we’ve only been arguing over semantics in these cases.
Well, XIII is canonically a planet at war with its neighboring moon (Pulse and Cocoon), if I’m not totally mistaken. I’ll spot you that they sprinkling in a lot of extra meta-physics with XIII-2, but I didn’t like XIII enough to play it.
Really like the core conceit of the story, but was not thrilled with the combat mechanics or the “Just walk down this very, very long hallway until you get to the end of the game” mechanic.
Even if you consider Cocoon a moon of Pulse, does that really count as another world and not just another location within the same world and reality? IV would also count in that case since that is explicitly the planet against agents from the moon (and VIII arguably as well).
Cocoon is more like a low-orbit space station than a moon.
Isn’t it both? I vaguely remember Sephiroth already knowing what’s going to happen or him coming from the future or something.
That’s an alternate reality Sepheroth, who is apparently aware of the alternate realities and has observed some of their outcomes. At least that was my understanding.
So, the original game is very vague and fuzzy, especially at the end. The Remake at least makes a better pass at clarifying wtf is going on. That said, my reading based on my playthrough of both iterations is…
spoiler
Sephiroth was killed by Cowgirl Tifa back in Nibelheim, as revealed in the flashbacks. However, his soul was so polluted by Jenova that he could not return to the Lifestream. Like the Gi, he is cursed to persist in a kind-of ghostly half-life between worlds. He can possess and manipulate living people, but he cannot properly die or pass through the Lifestream and live again.
As part of this half-existence, he can see the alternate versions of himself in different histories. In other iterations of the world, Sephiroth has already claimed the Black Materia and triggered the coming of Meteor. So Sephiroth suspects what is going to happen based on the actions of alternative versions of Avalanche and Shinra his alternate self has already experienced.
Shinra Soldiers also have this capacity, to a limited extent, which is why Cloud can still see a ghostly version of Aerith - the version of her that he’d saved from Sephiroth in an alternate timeline. And, when Cloud is thrown into the Lifestream in Act 3, he has an even more vivid connection to the alternate timelines, allowing him to confront and defeat Sephiroth in his final form.
10 doesn’t, unless the sequels retconned it too.
I don’t consider the video spheres from the past in X-2 to be time travel any more than watching old movies or home videos is time travel.
Even the ending where
Spoiler
Tidus returns isn’t time travel since he clearly still has his memories.
I also don’t personally consider Dissidia, Bravely, or Kingdom Hearts to be Final Fantasy cannon. So that leaves I, VIII, XIII-2, and XIV that are unambiguously cannon and include time travel as a plot point, unless I’m missing something.
Stranger in Paradise: Final Fantasy Origin would count, but that’s just a wacky reinvention of FF1.
The very first game has time travel in it.
Space Travel/Space Aliens
That’s the plot point of seven games in the series, not seven plot points in the series.
