• Sam_Bass@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    They were called slaves back in the day. Guess thats a tamer term than parasite

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    22 hours ago

    i have a friend who was doing a twitch fundraiser, right? it was a fundraiser for a good cause. i DO fundraisers for a living. So i pop on, say hi, she doesn’t recognize me, i drop in 50 bucks because fundraiser and i could afford to tighten the belt that month. like, this is a normal donation in the charity world. She Did Not Tell Me that she was eating a slice of lemon for every dollar that was donated. Oh My Gods i have never felt so guilty for doing a fundraiser i tried to stop her. I had no idea this was a huge donation for twitch.

    honestly, i still feel kinda guilty and it’s been years.

    • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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      23 hours ago

      Scalpers aren’t really living off the hospitality of others, they’re taking advantage of illiquidity to create arbitrage and fuck over regular people.

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          They’re the only actual parasites in that list, the rest just provide a service people pay for. Which is closer to the parasitus class described in the OP.

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        Scalpers aren’t really living off the hospitality of others, they’re taking advantage of illiquidity to create arbitrage and fuck over regular people consumers.

        We shouldn’t act like the consumer isn’t a part of the problem. The scalper can scalp because the consumer will consume.

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            21 hours ago

            I’m not victim blaming, the scalpers need someone to sell to in order for there to be a profit. Yes Ticketmaster are scumbags, that doesn’t change the fact that there were plenty of consumers ready and ravenous for a chance to see their favorite artist live (artists making money from the scalpers buying from Ticketmaster, whether for themselves or their label).

            Should consumer protections be put in place? Probably, but I think that’s more or less kicking the can down the road. People need to vote with their wallets, giving money to scalpers is effectively allowing Ticketmaster’s scheme to work. Yes, it is predatory. Yes, it is scummy. No, the consumer is not faultless — they are essential for the scheme to work.

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                10 hours ago

                Yeah you’ll have to help me understand why people didn’t have a choice to simply not buy from scalpers. Were they holding guns to their heads?

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                  Because people aren’t a hive mind. Voting with the wallet doesn’t really work on limited luxury goods due to population scale.

                  Something like concert tickets or any luxury good is in such a low supply that there will always be enough people with more money or credit than sense.
                  So there pretty much isn’t a choice of not buying and prices eventually getting lower. The prices of luxury goods will always be as high as possible and thanks to population scale and ad campaigns, that’s going to be rather high.

                  Though don’t get me wrong, im not advocating in defense of buying expensive useless shit. I’ve quit quite a few things and at least one addiction because the price rose above some predetermined limit. Just that the voting part doesn’t really work anymore.

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      Roman society is pretty much the basis for the western world. The Romans are largely the reason for the rampant patriarchy we have today among other things, for instance.

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        22 hours ago

        I totally agree - didn’t they invent the word?

        But yeah, reading about the patriarchal structure in Roman society was like…

        Because there’s a clear cut path from what they set up back then to where we are today. Thanks, Romans.

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        23 hours ago

        Patriarchy has unfortunately been the majority across the world, it’s nothing to do with the Roman’s and everything to do with physical strength to dominate others.

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          The Romans very specifically invaded what we today call Britain because the people who lived there were matriarchal. I am Cherokee, my tribe was also matriarchal before white people showed up. In my tribe, traditionally, when you get married your possessions belong to your wife and you join the clan of your wife.

          Patriarchy has never been as widespread as patriarchs would like you to believe.

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          Both are true - Roman society is patriarchal in a particular way, e.g women were known by their fathers name (e.g Agrippina Claudius is daughter of Claudius) and considered almost like property of their father, until they were married off to a husband, and were henceforth known by their husbands name.

          Sound familiar? That’s basically what Atomicbocks is referencing

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      8 hours ago

      YouTuber since 2006, here: I have not received a single cent. They demonetized me (along with millions others when they changed their rules) shortly before I hit the $100 payout threshold and then kept the money.

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    There’s still examples of people being paid to live in peoples’ homes as sex servants and whatnot, let’s not act like this kind of thing just evolves out of existance. I think I even remember a reddit post of someone talking about how a married couple paid for their tuition in exchange for being a plaything for them while at college.

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      22 hours ago

      There are stories in British tabloids every few months about how young women in university are paying for their education by being available at the whim of wealthy sugar daddies.

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        If I had been able to do that as a man, I would have 100% been on board with it. I don’t see any issue with the situation as long as both parties agree to it.

        Although I guess I technically did it since the job that was fucking me had tuition reimbursement.

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          Personally I think the sexual exploitation of the youth to pay for the job training to become wage slaves isn’t something a society should be proud of.

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            You can also view it as independence and agency. Why shouldn’t I capitalise on my resources?

            Broadly speaking that’s only an issue if the former is much more powerful than the latter and I don’t think that"s the case in the UK. There are plenty of other ways of funding education that are very much accessible but selling booty is easier and more fun than flipping burgers why not?

            The real pain point here is society’s judgement towards sex work.

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              Gonna be real bro, I think you should take that blood lubed orphan crushing machine you’re defending and shove it where the sun don’t shine, then sell the video because it’s just society’s attitude about exploiting the hope for a future keeping you down, maaaaan.

              Or maybe you can just admit that there’s a difference between taking up sex work because you like it, or at least don’t mind it, and selling yourself to gross old perverts for tuition?

              There’s always going to be a power disparity built into people dangling your future on a string in front of you, it comes as a package deal with the capitalist cannibalism of its own youths.

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                Genuinely confused what you’re even talking about but it’s my bad - didn’t see I’m communicating with bible belt social. Have a good day tho

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      my body looks weird. lots of scar tissue. i was a regular model at the art school and they loved me because i’m so fucking lumpy. my mother would be so ashamed to learn i had to take my clothes off for money to get through school, because i also had a full time and part time job and loans and that still wasn’t enough to survive. she’s a prude though, this was art. that one is a secret between my wife and i (who funny enough did it at one of those mormon schools, so she got to wear a swimsuit)