• arcine@jlai.lu
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    It’s true ! I have all three, and now my legs and upper back hurt instead !

    Thank you, ergonomics !

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    Actually my back hurts because your mother damaged it with her large mass when we were engaged in coitus.

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    If you can help it, taking short breaks in between long work hours and stretching goes a long way without buying anything outrageous.

    RSIBreak on Linux Workrave on Windows.

    I think both are multi platform but I’ve had problems making them work in the other OS.

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      Seems like Workrave is also available on Linux. Did you not know that or did you recommend RSIBreak for Linux because you think it’s better?

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    Your back hurts because you keep the same posture even when your body tells you not to.

    When you have a job, and say work for 3-4 hours, your body will tell you to stop and do something else for a couple hours. But you can’t cause life.

    The ergonomic stuff are fulfilling their purpose by giving you a decent posture, your just holding it too long.

    This is also why being rich would be a solution, even those who are rich but work, they aren’t working 40 hours every week nonstop. It’s also why they are so keen that “golf meetings” are so effective.

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      About the golf meetings:

      I made up a story around it. Basically, golf is a metaphor for business (and sex, now that i think about it). You gotta get the ball (yourself) into the hole (your target). Sometimes, you can’t do it in one step, so you require multiple steps to approach your goal. In any case, you take big steps in the beginning, and then as you get closer you need to become more gentle and delicate to not miss the perfect spot.

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      Well this and a shorter work day/week so one doesn’t have to chose between a social life, a healthy body, home upkeep, child care, and self care. Maybe sprinkle in some accessible and free healthcare both physical and mental. Idk, wouldn’t be the first time i was wrong about something.

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      That sounds like a lot of work …

      Are you sure there aren’t easy solutions that only involve spending money and not effort? Maybe a pill or expensive chair?

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      Exactly right. Just a bit of exercise every week is enough to get stronger muscles and no pain in back or anywhere else. At least that worked for me, and its easy to do.

      Peoples bodies are rarely used for physical work if you work in some sitting down position all day, and it means you lose all muscles with time.

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        Stretching too, it doesn’t have to be complicated like yoga, just find a doorjamb and put your arm against it or push against a wall or something, try to touch your toes, raise your arms, breath deep and hold your positions, don’t wiggle or lunge, just stop where you feel a pull and hold it, try to cover all your major support areas.

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    I’m a personal trainer, I’ve destroyed two lumbar discs, gotten disc replacement surgery and currently working with a physiotherapist to get back on track. Back pain can have many causes. Anything from disc degeneration to muscle imbalances. If you’re not in pain that prevents you from doing them, there are a few exercises my physiotherapist has me doing.

    • Glute bridge to activate your glutes. Underactive glutes can cause you to compensate with your lower back muscles, causing overuse.
    • Prone cobra for strengthening your back muscles.
    • Plank and side plank for strengthening your abdominals, obliques and deeper core muscles
    • Lying hamstring stretch. Tight hamstrings, common in people who are sedentary or sit a lot for work, can cause referred lower back pain.
    • Kneeling hip flexor stretch. Hip flexors are also commonly tight in people who are sedentary or sit a lot. Can cause a muscle imbalance with the posterior chain, altering the length-tension relationship in the muscles.

    But if you have more severe lower back pain, go see a doctor and get an MRI if necessary to find out if there’s something going on with your discs. Don’t just try to work through pain and ignore the problem. That’s what I did, and it just made things worse. You may not necessarily need surgery, but it’s good to find the root cause so you know what options you have.

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      I popped my two discs around L5. So far I’m trying to avoid surgery, pain is mostly under control at the moment but I’ve had extreme ups and downs for the last few months so…

      Thank you for the exercise advice, I’ll look them up and compare with what I’m currently doing. I do the McGill big 3 every day plus some other exercises and stretches I learned during physical therapy but I don’t know the names of those.

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      I don’t know exactly what these are based on your descriptions, but I went through physical therapy and was given some stretches/exercises that do for sure help some. It isn’t a “cure”, but as you said, if you have back pain and can do them, you should be trying to.

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      I suffered a slipped L5-S1 disc last Nov - suffering symptoms of pain and numbness in my left upper calf and outer side of my left foot. I did an MRI in Dec and there was nerve compression found and a degenerating L5-S1 disc.

      Eventually the pain went away and the numbness became much less obvious but the doctors I saw recommended microdisectomy to avoid further potential damage to the nerve.

      Immediately after the op (I did it 20th Feb) I did feel better but one or two days later the numbness returned stronger than before the op. Now on medication to try and see if the inflammation is temporary or something long term. Sigh

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      Nah, OP is just being elitist trying to justify those purchases. (not that they’re bad ideas, just unnecessary)

      The real answer is posture and lack of stretching and exercize. Unless you have an underlying issue like scoliosis, stretching and exercize fix 90% of the aches and pains young people whine about with “getting old” in their 30’s.

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          Yea, it’s a meme. Though sadly a lot of people I run into unironically think the meme is the best solution.

          Until knowledge becomes laughably common, I’m going to try to spread what is best. Especially when the better option is way cheaper.

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        Well actually the worst thing for posture is having the same all the time so sit/stand desk are rly helpful if you use them by shifting you position.

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    no, my lower back hurts because i got impaled there. it hurts less because i have a chair with a double rocker and well positioned monitors

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    “Hmmm, I’m going to write you a prescription for 75% more RGB LED backlighting”

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    I have all those things, but my back hurts because I fucked it up on my 20’s moving file cabinets at a minimum wage job.

    I do consider it the reason i don’t have carpal tunnel after 30 years of IT/Code/Sysadmin though.

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      The last time I hired a few people to help me move, I gave each one an extra $30 just to get themselves a goddamn back brace, that shit makes me worried when I see young people yanking heavy shit around like it’s not doing anything to their bodies.