• LordCrom@lemmy.world
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    Hevent worn a tie for any reason other than a funeral in the last 20 years. I refuse. If I show up to work in a T-shirt with no holes I’m dressed up.

    Its funny being the only one at the senior staff meeting in an Iron Maiden T while everyone else is suit and tie. Good thing I’m good at what I do

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      Good for you, think about it, everyone shows up to work with a noose tied around their neck, slipknot and all. How is that not a vulnerability? Someone could grab the skinny end and choke you out. Police don’t wear them, if they have to wear ties they use clip ons for just that reason.

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        It wouldn’t be as easy as it sounds.

        A properly tied full Windsor is awfully tight and takes a little wiggling to tighten up into the collar. Considering that the tail is generally put into the loop in the back of the tie, it would be hard to get to. Even if you did grab it, it’s not likely going to cinch tighter by just dragging on it.

        Now that’s not to say you couldn’t still just grab the tie in the front, pull it around to the back, and choke the absolute shit out of someone! Using that logic though we also have to do away with scarves, purse straps, and necklaces below a certain “gage”.

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          I have seen videos of fights of people grabbing the small part of the tie and pulling on it, yeah it’s not tailor made for choking but it does cinch up when you pull it. One such video a guy was doing that and the choked guy head butted him, took care of that problem.

          Still though, it’s a vulnerability, and there is no legitimate reason to wear it. Now you want to talk about wearing chains, I would agree they are too, jewelry is a waste and vanity and often a vulnerability as far as I’m concerned, excepting wedding rings. Although one can argue it’s a store of value you carry around in case you need to pay for something. Scarves are too that’s right, as hankerchiefs are, but you aren’t tying them around your neck they are just wrapped around.

  • BradleyUffner@lemmy.world
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    Ties make no sense. It’s literally a strip of cloth tied around your neck that serves no useful purpose at all. It’s idiotic that they have managed to survive as a part of modern clothing.

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      What? It’s a piece of fashion: it doesn’t need a “purpose”. You want to wear monocolor onesie jumpsuits everywhere?

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        I’d argue fashion is a waste of human effort IMO.

        Make functional outfits and comfortable ones. Literally nothing else. “Formal” should not even be a word at all, much less a genre of clothing.

        Designers making wearable art pieces is kinda silly, but it gets by with being art, but that’s as far as I’ll allow the line.

        Saving a useless accessory that’s been mandated for certain jobs/purposes is actually obscene to me. It being “fashion” is no help, and given that it’s the only reason it exists, it should be fucking deleted from our awareness.

        Flight me.

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        If someone wants to wear one of their own choice, that’s fine. It shouldn’t be mandated. The issue I have is that wearing a strip of cloth around your neck somehow makes you a “professional” in the eyes of others, and not wearing one means you are being “unprofessional”.

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          Look, if you are not wearing a giant arrow hung around you kneck that points at your dick, how are people going to know where you keep your dick?

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              That dick doesn’t work and we all know it. The party is running the show, he’s running on autodick, falling asleep at televised meetings, making even less sense than normal, he can barely work up a good nazi rally now, they leave him alone with an avowed enemy of the party, like Mamdami or Petro of Colombia for a half hour and he’s best friends forever with them, while his handlers facepalm.

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    Neckties belong in business, but not all business. I threw a big stink when I worked at Kohls. Women could wear polos, slacks, etc. Men had to wear dress shirts and ties, slacks or dress pants. It’s retail, ties can get caught on a lot of shit (registers, conveyors, doors, etc). Took a year but the Regional manager finally saw the light and later it became corporate policy. Women also couldn’t wear necklaces for the same reason.

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    If you tie it that tight you’ll feel the blood pounding in your head and feel like you are suffocating. I can’t imagine someone making it that tight and not immediately loosening it.

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    What an idiotic article (and website in general, looks Buzzfeed-tier). From its linked source:

    Negative cerebrovascular effects can be expected by compressing jugular veins and carotids

    No shit.

    by a necktie.

    Nobody is wearing a tie that tightly, and even if it is deliberately made that tight when you put it on, it’s not like a noose, it’ll loosen on its own almost immediately as you start moving around. There are no springs in a tie maintaining the tension.

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      Shirt collars don’t move the way necks do, so it really depends on posture and movement, I’d say my posture was about the best in my day when I was standing in front of a mirror putting the tie on and judging my appearance, and then 20 minutes later I’d be sitting at my desk hunched forward and it would be a lot less comfortable, so I could see it.

      Also I remember from hours and hours of starting at old men’s necks in church how their flesh would spill out the backs and sides of their collars while they sat there listening to the preacher.

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    Remember all those bankers, lawyers, and managers wearing ties each and every day? Now you know why they act like they do.

    BTW, the tie not only reduces the oxygen supply to the brain, it also increases the risk of strokes by about 10%.

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    If you don’t cinch it up too tightly, it’s no more constricting than buttoning the top button on the shirt. Not that wearing one makes any sense, but it’s not trying to kill you, either.

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      Oh great so it’s only utterly pointless and uncomfortable.

      This is my privileged white guy battle that I will fight to my final day. Yes it is low stakes, but it is a battle someone needs to fight. I will never wear a tie, and I will view anyone who does as choosing to uphold one of the biggest systems of oppression I regularly deal with.

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      Yeah, I rarely do the top button and rarely keep my tie tight. I’ve got it down to a science to where it looks right, but still loose, because I cannot stand stuff around my neck.