You know, personally, I don’t think the rumours of Trump being an active foreign agent instead of “just” a narcissist grifter are useful, because they can be used to argue that things weren’t already pretty borked before in the status quo… (and I think they are wrong, personally)
But I do have to admit - if I was a foreign agent wanting to destroy the US and its influence in the world, I would basically do exactly what he is doing.
My college degree focused on the collapse of the USSR and the US diplomatic response to it. I studied a lot of Soviet and Russian foreign policy. If Donald Trump is not a Russian asset he weirdly backs every single position you would expect a Russian asset to have.
refusing to speak negatively of Putin in front of millions during the debate should’ve been a pretty clear wakeup call
“He’s a good man, strong man” and every red hat cheered. You dumb mother fuckers.
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Also my mom’s car is named figgy and we got her as a baby so we call her “little baby figs”
Diesel, gasoline or electric?
He’s in Putin’s pocket for sure. You remember the closed door meeting with him and Putin his first time in office? Putin came out looking smug af and Trump looked like he’d just seen the ghost of his dead dad. Trump was best mates with Epstien and famously can’t keep it his pants. My bet is that Putin has footage of him fucking a minor and is threatening to release it unless Trump toes the line.
Honestly, given the cult-like obsession of Trump followers, I can’t even imagine a video like that making much of an impact on them. Sadly…
I dunno, I’m certain that there will be a great number of folks with enough cognitive dissonance to validate whatever he does in their own minds, but I still think that it would sink him.
Dude, the Venn diagram of the states in which it’s legal to marry a minor and those in which Trump won is probably just a circle
I think he’s inept, stupid, and doesn’t have a plan or idea about what he’s doing. Tariffs, eg, are the polar opposite of what he claims.
His puppeteers, however? They’re just letting him run wild, destroying everything he touches, because they have the wherewithall to withstand the damage.
And they are all making $$$. Insiders make out like crazy when the economy crashes, buy the low and hold. Open a for-profit prison. Get shady government contracts. Get the President to do a commercial for your cars in front of the White House. And on and on.
That is true as long as there is a rebound though. Why would there be a return to normal after this?
They don’t want a return to normal, they want a return to feudal slavery. The financial warfare is just a means to that end until the point where money doesn’t matter anymore.
It makes sense that they’re prone to the falacy of expecting things to carry on happenning mostly as they’ve happenned in their lifetimes, same as everybody else.
That being so, it makes sense that they are certain that there will be a rebound “because it’s always what has happenned after a crash”.
Or, if you want an historical reference, the Monarchy in France right up to the French Revolution never expected than no matter how much they exploited the rest, they themselves would end up on guillotines.
What stocks do I invest in? I want to profit off the demise of USA as well.
Private prisons (The GEO Group and CoreCivic), and any of many security companies that deal with government contracts are probably a good start.
European weapons manufacturers
Oh I like that!
Invest in bullets
You think Trump cares about all these things enough to run around destroying everything? His train of thought chugs for a second, sputters and switches lines. He’s obviously being fed things to be upset about and talking points, then an executive order is put in front of him to sign. He’s not writing these orders.
Maybe he claims BS on purpose 🤓
Oh, the puppeteers will have him under the proverbial bus the moment things turn back on them. Mr Trump has an inherent unlikableness about him that will work well for people needing a scapegoat. Once a win is achieved or a loss is unavoidable, he’ll be hung out to dry in a microsecond.
And that’s sad. The mean things we do is a reflection on us and not the victim.
I get the feeling such rumours are just the other face of the same kind of blind Nationalism as the MAGAts exhibit - the latter group is all about how America is a great country whilst the group spreading the “it’s all due to Foreign interference” rumours are really just denying that the huge problems in America are mainly the fault of Americans.
Both are just spewing self-serving nationalism in the same direction: that Americans are good and it’s foreigners who are bad.
It’s generally a good idea to be skeptical of “explanations” which make the people giving them indirectly it look better, either by claiming than the group they’re in is better than the rest or by exhonerating the group they’re in as the cause of the problems that group is having.
You put it better than I myself had formulated it in my head yet, why I am weary of those rumours. I find similar arguments here in Europe, where our fascist movements, which are without a doubt supported by Russia, are then sometimes reduced to being some sort of wholly foreign influence, instead of admitting that Russia is stoking flames in embers that had always been part of us and the problems we face.
The fields which are being harvested by both external adversaries and power hungry ethics-free insiders were plowed, fertilized and sowed by 4 decades of exposure to the style of disinformation favored by Neoliberalism whilst the consequences of its policies were getting more and more felt by the average person, IMHO.
When your belt keeps tightening, what you can buy with the income from working keeps being less and less and life feels more and more like swimming against the tide, all the while the authoritative figures of old (mainly the Press and mainstream party politicians) keep telling you that things are getting better (“the GDP is growing!”), eventually people lose trust in said authoritative figures and those with a similar style of discourse, which opens the door to non-mainstream political voices with a different style of discourse (including populists), and very wealthy people aren’t going to be funding Leftwing parties whose ideas are not shaped by Neoliberalism, to fill the political gap opened by the general loss of trust on the mainstream, they’re going to be funding Rightwing voices who blame the powerless for the ills of the nation rather than those very wealthy people who have been pillaging it for decades.
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If conservatives could comprehend numbers, they’d be real upset.
How mean, if they could read, they’d be pissed…
I think they would demand data from the first term.
if they could read at all they’d blame biden for an education plan, giving no credit to michelle oabama
I’ve never seen a graph so metaphorically and literally apt.
Story of his life. At no point ever has DJT not been a loser. Such a failure of a human being, and the world will be much better once he exits it.
Saw a great video of his approval numbers and he is underwater compared to every other president for this soon in. His only competition, and President he still comes in 2nd worst to depending on the topic, is himself from his first term. 🤣🤣
How the fuck is this Nazi fuck doing better with his poll numbers than the first time?!?!
Sunk Cost Fallacy
Well it depends on the topic, because some people love Musk dismantling the government, and others really get a chub from all the deportation (even though it’s a fraction of what he promised) and just general cruelty. But he still has the bottom 2 presidential approval ratings.
I also think many people tuned out post election because they either voted for the shithead and are by their nature very low information voters, or voted against him and needed to go into a news void for mental health reasons post election.
Polarization is a feature not a bug. The tangible consequences of tariffs take a while to be felt by the average consumer whereas trumples have gotten to watch the meltdown of everyone they hate with no consequences.
They should’ve added Trump 2016 too, dunno what would it look like but omitting stuff isn’t great
So even with less dementia in 2016 Trump still couldn’t beat a Democrat.
Honeymoon lasted a month
However the economic devastation is gonna last decades…
I thought you had drawn it in with a sharpie. Lol
I know it’s standard, but the y-axis is shifted significantly. This representation makes the numbers look a lot more severe than reality.
Even then, built up some hype then just stagnated, vs a continuous steady growth
Good bot - way to sow doubt. Fucker.
I don’t like Trump whatsoever, but I feel like we gotta be showing how bad he is, could’ve painted this as “old man loses it, tanks the economy even though we said he would”
I realize the title is rhetorical, but just a reminder that AB not only reversed their support for the Bud Light campaign after just a few weeks of fascist bigot whining, they also fired the advertising manager responsible.
All over a single can of beer.
You probably can’t buy beer regularly without giving them some of your money, but let’s not forget what spineless cowards they are. (Just like Target.)
Drink local, fuck InBev
I don’t give them a nickel. Every beer I drink is brewed by someone I know. Even the commercial beers.
I’ve often heard people describe the stock market as a graph of rich people’s feelings. Looking at this, if that was true? This is the most relatable the 1% have been in a century.
Edit: Yeah I know, folks. I did say if.
Meh. Really rich people are so fucking diversified that it doesn’t matter to them what the hell the stock market does on a 4-year scale. They’ll benefit from other assets and wait out the storm, buying equities when others are selling. Shit, even upper middle-class people can often do this without sweating too much.
I watched this video essay by Benn Jordan on American Capitalism that suggests the ultra wealthy are trading their net worth for control. Companies don’t want to make more money, they want to have more control over your life. They’ll buy out every competing company and give out their products or services at a loss even if it means losing a billion dollars a year with no plan to turn a profit anytime soon. They do it with the goal of becoming the only company that provides something people rely on.
Musk’s net worth has dropped $100 billion but he now controls what government programs get funding and who gets government jobs. He traded his net worth for control.
On a similar note there are arguments that claim Putin or MBS are far wealthier than Musk for similar logic as that video. At those points money means nothing and the next step is influence.
Rich people is moving assets to elsewhere now, normal Americans has nowhere do go.
The two things will hurt rich people are tax and death.
This is actually what real 1%ers want. They can easily absorb the blow, and now they can actually buy more for less. When the market recovers, they will have increased their wealth exponentially. They paid for this to happen.
0.01% percenters maybe.
1% in the US is about ½ million annual income. A lot of money to be sure but common enough that you’re not anything exceptional. You’ll never worry about money, but you’re still working a job and you’re still fucked if you lose it. You’re still incapable of solving world hunger. Maybe you could sort out a neighbourhood hunger problem.
1% globally is about $50,000 income annually. Now you’re really amongst the working population in the US. They’re not absorbing any blows.
½ million annual income
That’s FatFIRE territory. They can already handle losing their jobs (thus FI) and can easily take advantage of bargain prices.
Im definitely not even in the 1%, but ive made money on this market by making some obvious trades. Long Lockheed after their massive correction and short tesla. Im certain the 1% know even more than what to do here and are making even more money. When someones manipuling the market, it doesnt matter which way it moves for these people, it matters that they know which direction it moves before it does that
If you’re trading stocks you’re def in the global 1%. You only need $50k income a year.
No, it’s the reflection of speculation within the market. It’s not just rich people because if major banks analysts think the working class is going to buy less that will also be reflected in the markets.
I remember how a webstream of a lettuce was set up for Liz and she got kicked out faster than the lettuce on the webstream became rotten.
We need to start a trump lettuce stream!
Needs to be an orange, surely.
I hope this doesn’t sound too insane given that currently this is “good news” or at least good metrics for us: But I often worry about using the stock market as a metric for anyone notable.
For instance, I picture a future where a politican pushes hard for increases to minimum wage…and the stock market tanks because “free labor is ruined”. There are some bubbles where it really should tank and I just worry that we’d be excusing it then, and not now.
Granted: It is my belief that there’s no bubbles now and that Biden handed us a working system - one that Trump is throwing wrenches into. I just think after the GME fiasco, we shouldn’t necessarily trust the stock market as a perfect system run by level-headed people.
I suppose what I see here is a way of describing the result of what I think we all know the cause is. Yes it’s a small glimpse of an incomplete picture, and shouldn’t stand up to debate by itself - but it stands with the backdrop of all Trump’s public aggression to friendly countries.
Obama 2013 doesn’t really make any sense. He was already president, so nothing changed. 2009 is probably much worse cause of Bush’s recession.
It’s important to note that Trump is responsible for what’s happening. While Obama was given the financial crisis on his lap because of things out of his immediate control.
100%. Neither is a good comparison, really. Trump 2017 vs Trump 2025 might be the best comparison. But that also implies he was responsible for 2017, which he wasn’t.
Yeah, other presidents have ups and downs and usually it’s nearly a coincidence, good luck or bad on their part.
Trump absolutely is responsible for current economic conditions, with no ambiguity.
Obama 2009 looks about the same, maybe a bit stronger over 100 days. The market collapse happened in the final months of the Bush presidency, and it was just about at the bottom as Obama came into office.
To have a number as bad as Trump II, you have to go back to Bush’s first term (in general the Bush graph is pretty bad, barely managing to make it back up to break-even for a few months before the 2008 collapse).
Bad bot. Making so obviously provocative and distracting content is a give away. FUCKER.
Wow, you are angry at anything that doesn’t blindly cheer on your narrative.
Do you not have the ability to take a vote of no confidence in the US? Or are you.just stuck with it for 4 years and he can do whatever?
They have an impeachment process which they tried a few years back twice but didn’t work. It is like black magic, a whole lot of mumbo jumbo for literally nothing.
Impeachment doesn’t seem like it actually does anything. It’s like an official slap on the wrist.
Maybe the laws were written back when politicians had a sense of shame and they just assumed that an impeached president would resign.Exactly.
The US system has bunch of things that don’t have explicitly defined penalties, because just the act itself was so shameful that it itself was the punishment.
But now they have a president with zero shame and zero morals - the processes don’t work.
Impeachment DOES have a defined penalty if found guilty
But the chances of being found guilty by the cult of bootlickers Trump has in Congress is slim to none.
It is a 2 part process. If you think of it like a criminal offense, impeachment is a charge. Then the Senate convicts. He caught 2 charges and the Senate voted him innocent.
So long as he holds at least 33% support in the Senate, he’s safe.
50% in Congress for bringing the articles (charges). 67% of Senate to convict
My point exactly. US politics have become so divided that a sitting president would never be found guilty by his own party members, which would be necessary for conviction considering how the two parties always get near-equal amount of representatives. The system is stacked so that an impeachment will never have any effect on a sitting president.
If you’re found guilty in impeachment you’re removed from office… Just because you don’t understand the full process doesn’t mean it’s toothless
His constituents really need to understand that he doesn’t care. He’s willing to tank the economy b/c he and his rich friends can afford to weather that storm. In fact, it’ll be a buying at discount opportunity for them. The vast majority of that base is absolutely not those ppl. They chose wrong, and I hope they’ll learn.
Would be interested in seeing the full 4 year terms as well
now I want to also see this graph from trump’s first term
The first hundred days would have been good as the market hates uncertainty. The reason why it is falling now is because Trump isn’t being consistent in his policy and is upending the world order. In 2016 there would have been some hope the economy would improve
I wish every magat in the world would realize what a significant marker this is!!!
