• capybara@lemm.eeEnglish
    32·
    3 days ago

    Both of these posts are complaining about their accounts being banned, which happened because they (at least one of them) posted low effort questions and therefore got lots of downvotes and got automatically banned by a system meant to ban bots and trolls. The irony is that reddit has major problems with their automatic moderation which you yourself as an user is completely powerless to controll, e.g. recently when a massive amount of nsfw subreddits were banned for being unmoderated which they later admitted was erroneous.

  • redsparks2025@lemmy.world
    39·
    3 days ago

    I’ve noticed a rise of Bot Moderators on reddit and their AI is not very good. They pick up on certain words and not context. One banned me for 3 days for harassment but I was defending myself against someone that was being antagonistic against me. My appeal was rejected :(

  • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
    904·
    4 days ago

    My beef with Lemmy:

    • It’s weighted towards politics
    • Not a lot of niche sub critical mass yet (though this is not its fault at all)
    • But holy moly, it’s a political purity test! Like, I think of myself as pretty socialist, way far off center, but I feel totally alone veering off certain topics or even acknowledging certain things! I’m (mostly) not getting banned, and I am not leaving, but still.
    • jamie_oliver@lemmy.world
      11·
      3 days ago

      For the moment, I just don’t engage in political discussion on Lemmy. It is way to extreme for me in general. It makes sense tho that those who don’t feel their opinions fit anywhere else (or get them banned etc.) gather in a place that allows for freer discussion, which I think is a good thing really.

      And also just posting about niche music makes me happier than getting angry online so… That’s been a good motivation.

      • reksas@sopuli.xyz
        3·
        2 days ago

        frankly, lemmy is literally only place I have found where you can discuss politics reasonably. I also try to rid myself of any pride about being right about anything and actually look forward to being called out if someone thinks i’m wrong. Then I can take a look at what they say and adjust my own opinions if the other guy makes sense.

        Though i dont go to .ml, they seem more interested in witch hunts than making anything better.

      • CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works
        3·
        3 days ago

        Honestly I think your approach is closer to the ideal: it’s pretty poisonous to the mind if most of the content you take in is political in nature. You need to explore other stuff too, broaden horizons and all that.

        I’ve been learning how to design parts with CAD software and 3D print it. Also got a home server going to host games and media, among other things. These hobbies keep me sane, and that’s what I’m ultimately getting at: people need to get a hobby that isn’t about being mad on the internet.

        Also instead of just whining on the internet, its far more effective to engage in local politics and build up a base of people there than hoping that “someone” will do “something” about the whole country. That “someone” has to come from somewhere: create the grassroots that can be the base from which change springs.

      • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        3 days ago

        in reddit you have to walk on eggshells when your in those subs, even if your “agreeing with everyone else”, one simple misconstruement will get you banned.

    • CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works
      133·
      3 days ago

      But holy moly, it’s a political purity test! Like, I think of myself as pretty socialist, way far off center, but I feel totally alone veering off certain topics or even acknowledging certain things! I’m (mostly) not getting banned, and I am not leaving, but still.

      I saw people advocating for damaging people’s Teslas and it was fucking stupid. Beyond the fact that many people are not in a position where they can just get rid of a car over political reasons, it is likely many or even the majority of Tesla owners do not vote Republican (conservatives have been much slower to adopt EVs): you’re very likely going to damage vehicles owned by totally innocent people.

      I own a non-Tesla EV but either way it would be excessively expensive to switch to another car on a whim, and I sure as hell am not going to deprive my family just because seeing my car’s brand hurts people’s feelings.

      • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        3 days ago

        that part is wierd, conservatives dont own EVS, PERIOD fox has been telling how evs are a }pansy liberal thing", cybertruck is anomaly though.

      • Lvdwsn@lemmy.world
        3·
        3 days ago

        Agree with the sentiment, I feel like cybertrucks deserve an exemption though, agree or disagree?

          • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
            1·
            3 days ago

            or it can damage you by slicing you in two, i heard one instantly cut a deer in half when it crashed into one.

        • CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works
          22·
          3 days ago

          If this is your form of protest at least target someone who has materially contributed to this state of affairs, and by that I don’t mean random Republican voters.

          • pulsewidth@lemmy.world
            21·
            3 days ago

            People who have materially contributed to this state of affairs Republican voters

            This Venn diagram is a circle.

    • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
      142·
      4 days ago

      I feel like 3 kinda comes with the territory of politics. The sort of people who mod political forums have more rigid ideas of what ideas should prevail in the discourse than someone modding a board for embedded electronics, not that that’s an inherently bad thing.

      It just feels worse because a greater portion of Lemmy is politics; here I’ve caught bans for being insufficiently pro-Kamala months after the election or not going along with a china bad circlejerk, but at reddit people catch bans for “John Brown did nothing wrong” or just posting footage from Palestine.

      • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
        4·
        3 days ago

        the gaza/palestine thing is very tricky, many of the subs have been infiltrated by pro-israeli mods, early on the war, they were spamming “jews are doing nothing wrong, if we jews dont destroy them they will destroy us”, i pointed out in one, where the war was instigated and started by the same person who is keeping himself out of jail in israel.

        • Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
          2·
          3 days ago

          Pro-zionist sentiment was definitely prevalent on here following Oct 7th. It took many months for anti-zionist sentiment to outpace it, thanks to many people debunking their misinformation and sharing articles that showed the reality that most Western Media downplayed if not ignored

          On places like reddit, we mostly continue to see more and more banning of anything anti-zionist. r/Palestine might be the only place left that isn’t aggressively pro-zionist on there

      • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
        9·
        4 days ago

        Yeah. To be clear, I don’t feel “persecuted” by the administration, just the community. That’s a very important difference.

      • CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works
        1·
        3 days ago

        I’ve caught bans for being insufficiently pro-Kamala

        I talked some shit during the election and didn’t cop a ban lol. I guess you either had more visibility or were in even more extreme places than I was?

    • ad_on_is@lemm.eeEnglish
      2·
      3 days ago

      Lucky you… I managed to get banned once, for not being “left” enough. So I just don’t engage in specific kind of topics anymore.

    • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
      124·
      3 days ago

      Lemmy Leftists feel like that old Emo Philips joke at times.

      Apparently anyone not wanting to live in a grey soviet tower block and have all their worldly possessions be redistributed by the state is a “fucking Lib”

    • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
      5·
      3 days ago

      It’s scary until you notice you don’t get banned for disagreeing & challenging their dumbassery (as long as you follow the rules), unlike reddit where the slightest wrong move & it’s BAN BAN BAN. Fuck that place.

      It also helps to check which instance a post comes from & adjust your expectations accordingly.

    • feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world
      4·
      3 days ago

      I got banned from the Star Trek Memes sub, or something, for very mild trolling. I don’t even remember what earned it, I think I said I can’t get my head around an animated Star Trek and can’t accept it as canon or something, and then the trolling was just me doubling down on that opinion (which is an actual opinion). People do love their fandoms.

    • nerv@lemmynsfw.com
      6·
      3 days ago

      It’s expected. Right now, it is becoming a safe space for political dissidence. As sentiment pools and gathers mass, things tend to get towards the polar opposites and revolt breeds more revolt. Anything less than total agreement is viewed sideways.

    • burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world
      31·
      3 days ago

      i argue that there arent really any niche communities. if I see a site with slow and limited posts, and 0 comments on most of those posts, can I really call that a community? i like video games and furry stuff. the video game and furry stuff sites have next to nothing on them. apparently the only ‘geeks’ here are Linux users who only talk about Linux distros or tankies who hate everyone and everything

  • BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world
    44·
    3 days ago

    It’s so weird to read this, because other than a dork messaging me saying they were going to report me to the FBI I’ve had nothing but a lovely time on Lemmy.

  • whencanweplay@lemmy.world
    56·
    4 days ago

    Ima be real everyone is kissing lemmys ass but… I mean, it feels like reddit? Which is good?

    Feels no different from reddit so far lol it’s not better or worse, really

    • torrentialgrain@lemm.eeEnglish
      281·
      4 days ago

      New here but so far it feels like Reddit used to feel 10 years ago - a bit less populated maybe.

    • SkyezOpen@lemmy.world
      293·
      4 days ago

      The top comment on reddit is always a stupid fucking joke or pun. Not so on lemmy. That’s the biggest difference I notice when I go back to look at reddit. On popular posts the whole first 3 threads are inane bullshit.

      • JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world
        111·
        4 days ago

        “I also chose this guys dead wife”…

        Like the inside jokes were really good on Reddit like the switcheroo one, or the guy that always had that whole comment that ended in the wrestling scene but most of them were just repeated to death

    • Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      81·
      3 days ago

      Main difference from reddit is that you don’t see the same joke repeated in every thread. And here if you comment something it’ll probably be read by at least a few people.

    • ManOMorphos@lemmy.world
      11·
      3 days ago

      Here, your comment doesn’t get completely buried if you make one on a popular post. Part of that is the lack of heavy volume, of course, but I also feel like the sorting is more favorable to less upvoted comments.

      • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.worldEnglish
        615·
        4 days ago

        I’ve been lurking reddit lately, to see what propaganda the normies in the US are exposed to, and I found this thread fucking hilarious.

        Every comment is complaining about how this will be the death of reddit. None of them realize Reddit already died years ago, and they’re just getting high off the ashes.

      • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        3 days ago

        no wonder they wanted api gone as well, it allowed people to ban evade, since its not using the site directly.

      • Pamasich@kbin.earth
        0·
        3 days ago

        This really isn’t true. Specific subreddits do, because their mods want to buddy up to the admins. With OP’s search settings, I do get one of the posts they got (only one though), and most of the results are drowned out by posts about some guy called Lemmy. But sorting by New, there’s plenty of results even from today and the past week. Subreddits announcing their fallback instance, a canadian subreddit discovering lemmy.ca, people asking questions about Lemmy. Lemmy-specific subreddits also show up without a problem. And everything I saw, except for that one post from OP’s image, was positive about it.

        I think people who have fully left Reddit are falling for confirmation bias when they hear that a post got removed for mentioning Lemmy. While plenty are still up despite doing the same. It’s either because of the other contents of the post, or because of the subreddit it was posted in. If it was about promoting Lemmy alone, all posts that promote Lemmy would be gone, which isn’t the case.

        • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          3 days ago

          i had heard in a forum site that there was a mod that knows reddit admins, a direct line of communication to them, and he was discussing the levels of shadowbanning tiers. apparently shadow bans has tiers, 4 and 5 being the lowest, and its considered a temp “ban” while one is for the botters/evaders who make multiple accounts, which is usually 1 year to a perma ban. and ban filters, are supposed to have 1 year limit for the most severe, ban evaders, but they seem to have changed it this year.

          also the most annoying this, is mods can crossban you for just visiting a controversial sub.

      • skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de
        492·
        4 days ago

        they made a post, got tons of downvotes, then complained about downvotes which also got downvoted, got caught by automod because of downvotes, appealed, got unbanned, then deleted account or got purged because nothing even shows in modlog. the account was on sjw, posts were to communities in .ml and lw

          • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
            1·
            3 days ago

            they dont show it on reddit, and we have the r/modsupport how they are constantly complaining, reddit/ and mods arnt being transparent on why people are getting banned. and no rhyme or reason why people are getting banned too.

        • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          3 days ago

          sounds like shadowbanned. if you search for the user/(account name) it will tell if the user is suspended, doesnt exist(shadowbanned), even deleted accounts. i checked it that way and it says acct has been deleted.

      • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
        3·
        4 days ago

        this is my first acc on lemmy, i had no idea that was a seperate login. whats ML?

        • irelephant 🍭@lemm.eeOP
          5·
          3 days ago

          Lemmy has a feature called federation, which means that anyone can setup their own lemmy server and run it how they want, but it will connect to all the other servers, so they share the same posts. lemmy.ml is one server, but it has some tankies who are people who think authoritarian regimes, like soviet russia, were good.

        • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          3 days ago

          same here, i thought i had my account details wrong because i dint know i was trying to login to ML, apparenlty theres a lemmy.world too, same issue.

        • volodya_ilich@lemm.ee
          66·
          4 days ago

          Lemmy.ml is a lemmy community primarily composed of socialists. Because socialists are highly critical of racist behaviour, white supremacist tropes, US exceptionalism/western chauvinism, imperialist attitudes (many of which bleed in well-meaning liberals), and capitalist countries, they don’t tolerate such things in their community and are very critical when they see such things in other communities, which is often met with distrust and dislike because nobody enjoys being confronted. .ml are very confrontational and they get met with confrontation. There are also some legit problems with a few moderators expressing transphobic beliefs, which is why i personally choose hexbear as my main community. Kinda sad that people here have such a red scare as if it were communists and not fascists in governments all over the western world right now and increasingly so.

          • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
            1·
            3 days ago

            so lemmy.ml is basically some reddit subs, except they probably got banned from reddit for the things you mentioned(banned anyone even if the users align with thier beliefs but disagreed on some things). and came here.

      • volodya_ilich@lemm.ee
        512·
        4 days ago

        “Tankie instances” don’t tolerate transphobia or western exceptionalism or Zionism. Lib instances don’t tolerate questioning of US State Department propaganda (been banned from many comms for questioning the validity of Wikipedia articles on geopolitically charged topics) but will tolerate Zionism (downvoted but not banned). I’d rather have the former

        • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
          2·
          3 days ago

          zionism, pro-israeli is probably the worst right now, i was banned r/worldnews temporarily for pointing out who was the sole instigator of the war(BIBI), someone freaked out and said something along the lines, why don you become PM then, and then ranted, (i assume he was the turd that reported me.) normally you can tell who reported you, but i always CHECK my last message, so i know who it is. even “israelis” own population knows he did it, why is it only people outside of the country supporting him.

    • some_guy
      36·
      4 days ago

      Welcome in from the cold. We have hot cocoa and blankets.

    • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
      451·
      4 days ago

      Search manipulation or just shitty Reddit search?

      Google search for “lemmy” site:reddit.com/r/redditalternatives provides different top results:

      https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/18x59m7/its_time_to_admit_lemmy_has_won_the_the_biggest/

      https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/151v9vo/lemmy_explained_in_a_nutshell/

      https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/14ier24/for_anyone_wondering_how_lemmy_works_and_is/

    • 3dmvr@lemm.eeEnglish
      241·
      4 days ago

      Its 100% on purpose, those arent the most relevant or highest rated posts, cherrypicked

      • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        3 days ago

        they went after the OF accts recently, if people wanted OF porn, they go to non-PH and thier affiliate sites.

    • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      6·
      4 days ago

      Hell yeah! Consider sticking around for a bit. Don’t forget that you have the power to block individuals, communities, and even entire instances if you’re having a bad time. Not sure if reddit gives you all that power, but it has its uses!

      • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        3 days ago

        you can block invididuals, and turn off replies, but its often not effective, because if you go back to the orignal convo you blocked, you can see them bitching that you blocked them, oh and they created another account so they can evade your own block(since they cant join your convo thread in a subreddit. often times they will retaliate by reporting you for blocking them. and risking reporting them, can put you at odds with a mod, say you cant make too many reports.

      • nickwitha_k (he/him)
        3·
        3 days ago

        Not sure if reddit gives you all that power

        It does not. Was one of the reasons that I abandoned it when they blocked third party clients. I resent being forced to view right-wing propaganda, rage-bait, and ads as well as being forced to short by opaque algorithms that are clearly intended to manipulate.

        • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
          2·
          3 days ago

          same, reddit is slowly turning into FB, with all the right wing narratives, 90% of the post is about trump, its the same thing MSMs did to get him into the WH. while it maybe “center right” it mostly gives avenues for right wingers to “see what we told you guys”, i pointed that out on many subs. people are just lapping all the bs thats comes out, liek trump did this goof, like it matters. despite them being critical of trump, it actually gives 24/7 coverage outside of X and MSMs.

    • Pamasich@kbin.earth
      3·
      3 days ago

      I can only see one of those two posts (the second one) and it’s pretty well reasoned (I don’t agree though, just saying they did provide their reasoning in more than enough words imo). If you’re interested, here’s the link.

      To summarize it:

      • UI worse than New Reddit (I personally agree with it being at least just as bad, that’s why I didn’t go to Lemmy)
      • Big instances are laggy (remember, the post is from 7 months ago not today, so don’t compare the statement to how they are now)
      • Bad mod tools (a common complaint I see about Lemmy)
      • Too much far left and tech focus (another common complaint)
      • It’s not active enough (yet another common complaint)
      • Shitty mods (I disagree with the specific claim made about them being worse than Reddit ones, but I’ve definitely seen at least one shitty mod here so far, and too many are neglectful)
      • Lemmy developers are Maoist (fact iirc)
      • The community is filled with far left extremists, Mao worshippers, dictator bootlickers, and genocide supporters (the one actually unreasonable take imo which indicates they went to the wrong instance)
      • EtherWhack@lemmy.world
        1·
        3 days ago

        The user got banned by the automod in the first one.

        ashenblood 45 points 7 months ago

        You got banned by the automod because your account was less than 24 hours old and you received 40 downvotes on a post. That filter is in place to combat spambots and trolls, because normal users are unlikely to trigger it by getting so many downvotes so soon after making an account

        I messaged the admin and they already unbanned your account. …

        https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/1e0xugs/stay_away_from_lemmy/

    • zephorah@lemm.ee
      710·
      4 days ago

      Possibly landed in Hexbear. In combination with Spaz’s purge of all things Lemmy encouraging.