It begins…

Found out via this post

Interesting side-note, reddit’s anti-VPN policies and blocking some archivers like ghostarchive.

  • @Agrivar@lemmy.world
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    103 hours ago

    For what it’s worth, the primary reason I joined lemmy.world, in particular, was their offering of old.lemmy.world

    I’m old and stuck in my ways. I love the old-timey feel of the “old” UI in light mode with endless scrolling turned on.

    • @Blaze@feddit.org
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      33 hours ago

      Dbzero disabled it recently cause it was glitching and the code isn’t maintained anymore, hopefully it won’t happen on LW

    • @vividspecter@lemm.ee
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      33 hours ago

      For what it’s worth, the primary reason I joined lemmy.world, in particular, was their offering of old.lemmy.world

      I thought you were joking, but nope, it’s real. Neat.

  • katy ✨
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    33 hours ago

    you will use the web 2.0 bloated javascript filled internet and you will like it.

  • @hexagonwin
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    75 hours ago

    they even got rid of the login button lol. having a small userscript to insert the login button as html works tho as the method/css remains.

  • @uienia@lemmy.world
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    They have already been trying to bully old.reddit users for quite some time by forcing a regular cookie acceptance prompt which automatically changes the settings to new reddit.

  • @Mwa@lemm.ee
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    59 hours ago

    tbh if you need to see a reddit post use a frontend like redlib it doesn’t have signing in with a reddit account but atleast you can browse a post without tracking

  • @antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1419 hours ago

    Tbh these really are low-usage features, I didn’t know about any of them, aside from the snoovatars that I’ve always found stupid. So I don’t think anyone could be pushed away from the site because of this.

    OTOH, if they’re low-usage, why remove them? Do they spend too much bandwidth, CPU, whatever??

    • @Evotech@lemmy.world
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      Old code still needs to have unit tests, maybe they use libraries you need to keep patched etc

      Better to remove

    • @lud@lemm.ee
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      OTOH, if they’re low-usage, why remove them? Do they spend too much bandwidth, CPU, whatever??

      It’s generally desirable to remove old code and features to make the code neater. It’s also possible that some bug happened because of those features.

      • @Valmond@lemmy.world
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        2319 hours ago

        It’s usually better to not touch code that is working, it won’t become “clean” just because you deactivate some stuff and if you do try to actually remove code (to “clean” things, whatever that means in a setting bigger than a small project), good luck not breaking anything.

        Source: oldtimer software dev

        • @pingveno@lemmy.world
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          817 hours ago

          Code that exists still needs to be updated and maintained. It interacts with the rest of the code. Sure you can leave it lying around, but at a certain point the technical debt is going to catch up to you.

          • @AA5B@lemmy.world
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            13 hours ago

            Maybe you can afford this in your personal projects but I have yet to work at a company willing to invest in that. Sure, a conscientious developer might clean up things they’re working on, but old code usually gets ignored until the pain of keeping it gets too great, until someone is forced to do something about it

          • @Valmond@lemmy.world
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            Man do I have news for you…

            I mean I don’t like it, but the number of time I have seen crappy 20-30 year old code that’s completely shit, ingrown into everything else…

  • @rustyfish@lemmy.world
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    1961 day ago

    Remember when Reddit said they wouldn’t touch old.reddit?

    People understand they can just leave that site, right?

    • @danc4498@lemmy.world
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      951 day ago

      I wish more people would leave and bring their niches over here. There’s still so many things missing on Lemmy.

      • ArxCyberwolf
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        115 minutes ago

        I’m not sure there are enough people who would be interested in my niche hobbies (locomotives and outdoor warning sirens) to warrant communities for either lol. Trains maybe, definitely not the other.

      • @rustyfish@lemmy.world
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        181 day ago

        I feel you. Really miss 40klore and an endless stream of bunny pictures. The only two things I miss on Lemmy. Everything else I care about arrived or is arriving.

          • @rustyfish@lemmy.world
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            623 hours ago

            Subscribed to both of them. Also to the Grimdank offshoot we have. Very much enjoy all of them.

            Didn’t try posting lore or excerpts tho. Might try it when I come across something cool!

        • @danc4498@lemmy.world
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          51 day ago

          I think the frustrating part is that if those people just moved over to Lemmy, nothing would change about the communities. Lemmy today is robust enough to handle these communities. It’s just a matter of getting a community to switch servers.

      • I have so many posts to share, questions to ask, and things to do…but Lemmy is not as robust with users. And I refuse to participate on reddit. I need an /c/ xbox360hacks.

        • @Azzu@lemm.ee
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          I got answers and engagement from communities that seemed dead on Lemmy due to lack of users. You should just try to ask your questions… One answer that truly helps is already enough usually, you don’t actually need 100 users upvoting the same answer or 12 different answers where only 1 is good. For many things, low engagement is already sufficient.

          • Yeah, I browse All on Lemmy which I never would do on Reddit, and engage with whatever posts I connect with. I wonder if there are others who do the same.

            Posting to new or “inactive” communities I think is less of a shout into the abyss on Lemmy compared with Reddit.

        • @danc4498@lemmy.world
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          31 day ago

          Every tv show I watch I have to go to Reddit to view the conversation. And bite my tongue cause I refuse to log in and give content.

          Same with watching the political debates. That was my preferred method of conversation.

          • @samus12345@lemmy.world
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            119 hours ago

            Same here with various niche things. Reddit had a much higher percentage of jerks, though, so I’m overall better off not participating there.

          • @Blaze@feddit.org
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            21 day ago

            Which shows are you in? We had some episodes discussion on !showsandmovies@lemm.ee, but they never really took off. If you are interested in a show, you can maybe try posting there and see if other people want to discuss it with you?

      • @laverabe@lemmy.world
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        -41 day ago

        It is near impossible to start a new community. The Lemmy code primarily favors existing large communities, and it needs to change to heavily promote new communities over existing.

          • @laverabe@lemmy.world
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            112 hours ago

            I’ve kept at several, no one submits posts even after several weeks of submitting starter posts. It’s just very difficult. People just seem to like the status quo because it’s easier. I had to give up on !cranetrainexcavators@lemmy.world because almost no one was posting but me for an entire month, well that and plus I just ran out of things to post.

            Trying !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world now, I’ll probably keep at that since public policy is a huge personal interest. It’s had some activity but it’s like trying to run up an escalator backwards with a 100lb pack blindfolded and drugged. lol. /c/politics even added it on the sidebar and there is almost no posts except mine. Posted links in several other communities including /c/newcommunities .

            It’s just hard, not sure why my above comment was downvote so much. It’s hard, not impossible, but hard. I feel like it would benefit Lemmy if the devs were to modify the algorithm to promote rising new communities over existing ones to even the playing field. They tried with scaled sort, but I don’t think people use it much.

            • @Blaze@feddit.org
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              37 hours ago

              Trying !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world now, I’ll probably keep at that since public policy is a huge personal interest. It’s had some activity but it’s like trying to run up an escalator backwards with a 100lb pack blindfolded and drugged. lol. /c/politics even added it on the sidebar and there is almost no posts except mine. Posted links in several other communities including /c/newcommunities .

              Curious about this one, politics seems a very popular topic on Lemmy. Did you post to !politics@lemmy.world and others?

              I had to give up on !cranetrainexcavators@lemmy.world because almost no one was posting but me for an entire month, well that and plus I just ran out of things to post.

              That’s a very common experience. We have regular threads on !fedigrow@lemm.ee, this is definitely a recurring issue. On the other hand, if you can find someone to post with you, it feels very good.

          • @fossilesque@mander.xyz
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            A little bit everyday. :) It was the same on Reddit until enshittification started, probably around the time porn disappeared from the front page. Lemmy is actually way easier to start communities on than Reddit is now.

          • @PugJesus@lemmy.world
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            41 day ago

            Giving your own posts an upvote when you’re at 0 subscribers works wonders. I remember posting in the original version of RoughRomanMemes for literal months without significant interaction until I did that. Something about the ‘active’ feed I guess.

            Once the community is grown you don’t need to do that anymore.

        • @danc4498@lemmy.world
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          21 day ago

          What do you mean “favors”? Like the algorithm pushes them to the top when viewing “all”?

          I don’t think this is that big of a deal. The niche communities rarely reach the front page anyway. But people know to check them cause they care about the topic.

          Maybe google SEO is a factor too. When I am lttp for a game or a show, google almost always has a link to the reddit sub on the first page.

    • Ech
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      71 day ago

      Anyone paying attention knew it was just a matter of time. I used to think my last day on the site would be when they got rid of old. Turns out it was before even that.

  • db0OP
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    391 day ago

    Mark my words. This is just testing the waters

    • @Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world
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      431 day ago

      They aren’t testing anything. They are just enacting a stealth twilight of old Reddit like they’ve been planning ever since they thought up the new UI.

    • @JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.ee
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      151 day ago

      Seems like millions of redditors say just that through the many slaps in the face to users, then hang around anyway. :S

  • @wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    331 day ago

    I love the two comments calling out that this thread was posted to the help subreddit rather than any of the other more appropriate subs for changelogs.

    Like come on, you know that wasn’t an accident.