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On Monday, it appears X attempted to encourage users to cease referring to it as Twitter and instead adopt the name X. Some users began noticing that posts viewed via X for iOS were changing any references of “Twitter.com” to “X.com” automatically.
If a user typed in “Twitter.com,” they would see “Twitter.com” as they typed it before hitting “Post.” But, after submitting, the platform would show “X.com” in its place on the X for iOS app, without the user’s permission, for everyone viewing the post.
And shortly after this revelation, it became clear that there was another big issue: X was changing anything ending in “Twitter.com” to “X.com.”
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X is just a BAAAAAAD brand that it’s almost insulting the people who uses it, honestly were I’m from it sounds like an adult website…
One of the rules of branding is to choose a unique name to prevent confusion. Half the time I see the X logo I don’t know if they’re talking about X11 or the website formerly known as Twitter
Not to mention that from a visual perspective the icon ‘x’ is synonymous with closing or exiting a window. It’s a horrible choice on so many levels.
It’s funny that if you need to clarify X, you can say x11. If you need to clarify X, though, it’s still twitter
Oh, do you mean X the window manager or X the social media website?
The fact that a clarification like that needs to be made shows that Twitter has a branding problem.
Now, tell me which is which:
X is a window system not a window manager. The window manager is a client application that talks to the X server.
Actually it’s refered to Window System/GNU/ Linux
Can’t believe I didn’t catch that. Good catch.
Can you tell me, in fact?
The first one is X11.
Top left is X11 which means bottom right is Twitter
I think it’s a trick question. Bottom right is https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+1D54F
Well you got me curious…
https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-x-logo-unicode-math-textbooks-2023-7
The top left has some design aesthetic to it. Normally I’d assume the logo with the better aesthetics wouldn’t be an open source project logo, but given Musk probably fired anyone that could make a good logo, I’ll assume the more boring one (the lower left one) is the Xitter logo.
Or the XCOM games.
Heh, now as you mentioned, the logos do look very similar.
I immediately thought of the good old Scheiffler and Gettys book: https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51YpMj4WSPL._SL500_.jpg
X is just a BAAAAAAD brand
So - a perfectly accurate name for the company then.
I mean… stockX exists too
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No worries, it sounds like an adult website pretty universally. There’s three popular porn sites I can think of, which prominently have an X in their name.
Also it’s not really a brand, it’s just a fucking letter of the alphabet. It shouldn’t be possible to trademark letters of the alphabet. Basic decency, people
How about trademarking Alphabet?
Exactly. Believe it or not, someone invented that word at some point in history. And it wasn’t google.
What? It’s just alpha and beta put together.
Ok i see someone of us needs a refresher on the concept of invention
I don’t really have an issue with that. No one else was using it to do business in the tech space, at least.
It’s a hell of a lot better than Facebook just stealing Meta from a company that was actively using it.
Elon is a living joke they already made in Futurama.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://piped.video/QDaKTTZtJZY
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
It’s like that everywhere. Elon is a fucking idiot.
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It a dumpster fire branding, that they took an extremely long time to actually implement, and they still spit out this absolute trainwreck of a rebranding rollout.
People need to stop using Twitter. It’s like trying to using AOL or whatever now. It’s basically a dead product.
I am so puzzled by this. I’ve been using the Internet for 30 years, and in early 2000 people were much more standing up to principles. The greatest example was when digg changed how it operated with v4, people left it overnight. Now they prefer to be fucked over and don’t have any intention of changing it, and excuses are really lame like “alternatives are too hard”.
I think Yuval Harari was right and social media figured out how to hack our brains and control us.
It’s not only laymen either. I have Software Engineering friends who continue to use Twitter because RSS, Mastodon or any other alternative is “hard”. They have no core values or integrity whatsoever.
Why are they your friends, then?
Edit: I should have added more context. I’m not saying you shouldn’t be friends with Twitter users. I was referring to this:
They have no core values or integrity whatsoever.
I wouldn’t want to be friends with someone with “no integrity whatsoever.”
Work “friends” or also known as colleagues. Sometimes you just make do.
Oh, I don’t have work friends. I only have coworkers. I used to have work friends, but they rarely were there for me when I got laid off twice.
that’s why it’s work “friends”.
Oh, hehe. I get it now. “friends.”
I really hope this is sarcasm. I couldn’t imagine basing my friendships solely on whether or not they use Twitter.
No, that’s not what I meant, though I’ve updated my original comment to add more context.
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They have no core values or integrity whatsoever.
Well, fuck that. Don’t be “friends” with people like that.
Reddit already existed and was a better option than Digg v3, sort of like how Digg was more useful than Fark for many. I don’t think there is a good replacement for Twitter yet because the people that create the best content are addicted to it.
Funny, Nicholas Gurewitch, the creator of the comic Perry Bible Fellowship, just got his Facebook account stolen from him and made a comic about this subject, how he’s still addicted to social media despite that happening…
Literally the point.
The greatest example was when digg changed how it operated with v4
What did they change exactly?
Digg used to look like this: http://web.archive.org/web/20100603035130/http://digg.com/
They updated it to this: https://web.archive.org/web/20101231083935/http://digg.com/news
And basically reduced the amount of user-content, to promote… their own stuff? I don’t remember what they replaced it with. Users got pissed; left for Reddit.
Now it looks like a typical corporate website: https://digg.com/
News sites also need to stop going on about it. Its like feeding the troll. I’ve never used the thing other than looking at it briefly in its early days, and yet I’m constantly hearing about it. And here I am commenting about this apparently (Western) globally important website which has served no purpose in my life. What a waste of energy all around. Self perpetuating negative feedback loop tech wank. Digital town square my arse. The little I know about it is from bad headlines which I wish I could unsee as its of zero consequence.
There’s a whole host of modern journalists who don’t know how the fuck to do their jobs without twitter, I’d put money on that being the reason we still read so much about it
Porn twitter has been totally unaffected by all of this
Well, let’s add a couple more X’s to the domain name then.
I thought Elon was insane for wanting to rebrand twitter but apparently he’s not alone.
It’s twitter. Always has been.
So you mean setwitter.com ?
Let’s all start using AOL and MSN messenger
Msn messenger was perfectly fine, until people left me alone on there to join bloody skype
And Skype was great until Microsoft bought it.
AIM using Pidgin client when not on IRC with mIRC or X-Chat. MSN Messenger was never even on the list.
/gatekeeps 00s IMs ;)
Sure but that didn’t save you from skype either, i guess :'-/
but what’s the alternative? mastodon is quite different, I’ve tried many times but always give up
I have stopped using it to read news. I still use it to keep touch with my professional community (scientists who haven’t moved to Bluesky or Mastodon), but that’s it. I wish it would just die. Until then I’ve scripted it and blocked lots of elements to make it look exactly like old Twitter
I too have underestimated the glee of right wing trolls at twitters turn around. They are keeping it alive somehow.
Sell the twitter.com domain name you cowards.
I’m waiting for this day
That’s inviting phishing. Bad idea.
With a domain as valuable as Twitter.com it’s very unlikely it would be sold to a phishing group.
I still don’t ever see this happening.
Usually they end up abandoned (can’t name your company “Twitter” the next tens of years) and get hacked for phishing.
Usually they’re not so big they became a verb.
Just because it’s a bad idea doesn’t mean Musk won’t do it. On the contrary.
Not if someone runs a real site there.
Maybe a mastodon instance. I’ll put 20$ towards that.
Why not just switch your site redirects? Instead of x.com opening twitter.com make them go to x, and eventually stop the redirects and put a landing page on Twitter with a link to x.com. How do you expect people to stop calling it Twitter when that’s literally the site name even if you type in x.com
He doesn’t just want the links to change. He wants the mindshare to change. To erase twitter.com from consciousness. Because X is like, super cool, man. So the solution is to rewrite tweets so it’s impossible to say the ungood name.
Prob too many references to twitter.com in their code or whatever to fix or something similar?
find -type f -exec sed -i 's/twitter.com/x.com/g' {}\;Take a backup first in case it breaks something, which it most likely will.
I don’t really know code but he has that curvy line and some different colors and shit so this should work. Ship it. No need to test.
You just passed the exam to be a Project Manager
We don’t always test but when we do, it’s in prod.
Fuck it! We’ll do it live!
“Everyone has a testing environment, but only some are lucky enough to have it separate from production.”
Elon? Is that you?
If I was elon I would have said ‘ship it you fucking code jews’
Elon affectiously refers to TWFKAT’s developers as “Kode Kike Klub”
Are you my company’s developer!?
in case it breaks something, which it most likely will.
Partially because you didn’t escape the dots.
Tell me you didn’t read the article without telling me you didn’t read the article.
Not like he doesn’t have the money to hire some people to get it done.
Not when he can just threaten everyone and tell them that they will all sleep on air mattresses at the office until it is done.
That’s what they’ve been doing. Shared links have been going to x, which redirects to Twitter. They started doing it the first time they tried changing and everything broke. This is their second try.
The only time it’s ok to dead name anyone is, Twitter. Twitter Twitter Twitter Twitter Twitter Twitter Twitter Twitter Suck it elon!
It’s fine to deadname any corporation. Corporations are not people.
Biologically it is a twitter and nothing can change that.
What’s the name on its original articles of incorporation?
I’m waiting for someone to marry a corporation just to show how absurd the idea of corporate personhood is.
I’ll believe a corporation is a person when I see Texas fuckin’ execute one.
Some poor mfer’s shitty regex just got put on blast at a Twitter emergency software dev meeting.
Some poor mfer’s shitty regex just got put on blast
Oh fuck, oh fuck, oh fuck
at a Twitter emergency software dev meeting.
Oh thank goodness!!!
I can’t imagine how bad things must be for amateurish mistakes like that to have gotten through to the actual app.
I don’t care what they do. If I have to refer to that social media platform/shitshow of a vanity project in any way whatsoever, I’m calling it Twitter.
Xitter.
Pronounced shitter
An acceptable alternative
They should switch the name to Wayland.com as a compromise.
People on X with Nvidia cards are gonna have a bad time.
They already are on that alt-right shit hole. Too bad people are too brain broken to love their outrage propaganda garbage.
I dunno, I have a bunch of NVidia cards and when I’m on X, it’s like five hours of a REAAALLY good time.
When Elon stops allowing deadnaming on Twitter, I’ll stop deadnaming his website.
The only kind of reverse deadnaming that is ethical
I’ve been dead naming Puff Daddy since he first tried to change his name to Diddy.
Isnt his name K Diddler now?
Petty.
He doesn’t have control over what others think and say no matter what he tries.
Social media should be owned and operated by the people.
Love you lemmy/mastaon
Not just petty, but incredibly stupid. He bought one of the most recognizable brands on the planet. Everyone knows what a tweet is, a retweet, a quote tweet, hell, hashtags exploded in popularity because of Twitter. An entire community (re: customer base) self-organizing and inventing the concepts of your product for you, organically and for free - it’s any business owner’s wettest of wet dreams.
And then he threw that all down the drain because he couldn’t recognize what was right in front of his face. Either that or he did recognize, but still wanted to relive some tech fantasy he cooked up twenty years ago and can’t let go of. Either way, astronomically, gigantically, absolutely unfathomably stupid.
I’m still convinced that he’s actively and intentionally trying to destroy Twitter.
There is that (probably untrue) theory that the main reason he bought Twitter was because at the time, Twitter wouldn’t ban the ElonJet tracking account. Were that the case, it would kinda/sorta make sense that he’s want to kill the platform.
Ctrl+F: Twitter.com Replace all with: X.comSomeone at Xitter should hire me ASAP! My development skills are on-par with Elon.
For someone who is supposed to be smart, he’s an idiot.
I’m interested in why people have hyped him up to be smart?
I’ve watched a few podcasts with Elon as the guest and he comes across as average as an average person can be.
The only thing I’ve seen is that he jumps at opportunities he believes will be profitable, and has leveraged what he has against partners and adversaries for his own personal gain.
It came from a long time ago. See the power of people like Elon was being rich enough they could throw money at shit with little risk and also be rich enough to get smart people to do all the good shit.
But he was the face of it all for a long time, people legit saw him as the person who brought in electric cars (yeah i know he wasnt) and thinking space x is the rival to NASA.
Many people idolized him as a genius.
Then he ruined it, and you know why? Because he opend his fucking mouth just like the podcast you’re talking about and many people saw him for the idiot he was.
The problem? Elon himself believed the bullshit, he hinself thought he was a genius. And now hes trying to “run” things and its all falling to the ground. Because he never realized the only reason he had anything good was because of the actual smart people employed there.
Honestly, I’ll give Musk the credit for making electric vehicles cool. Not that he did the design or engineering, mind you, but that being stubborn about making electric vehicles “a thing” actually did move the industry towards electric vehicles proper, by throwing money at it and implementing a plan to make it more economically feasible. We all put a lot of faith in Tesla for being the ONLY company that seemed to be pushing forward with mass market EV adoption, when so many other companies were too scared to do it themselves. Now that there are more companies, and older established companies making EVs, and now that Elon has outed himself as kind of a twat, it’s easier to dismiss him. But I will give credit where credit is due. I don’t think we would see this boom in electric vehicles without him and Tesla kicking the car industry in the balls
Also Iron Man was a big movie at the time so people thought of him as the “real life Tony Stark.” That whole myth that you could have a super genius that could build a fusion reactor from a box of scraps was a thing at the time and here’s Elon Musk seemingly doing the same kind of thing.
Of course it’s silly, you have to have teams of people solving thousands of problems (big and small) to be able to get new technology.
But yeah it’s the most extreme version of the old saw “better to keep your mouth shut and have everyone assume you’re a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.” In Musk’s case, he could have kept his mouth shut and had everyone assume that he’s a genius.
It is because that is what he is trying to convince the internet to believe.
I’m almost certain he pays a meme troll farm to spread propaganda on the internet for him.
He is so defensive all the time and it’s exacerbated by his insistence on being wrong. It makes him look extra stupid. It’s impossible for me to comprehend how he graduated from an Ivy League school.
Does anyone know if he use to have Handlers? I always figured the reason he got hyped was because he had people who did his social medias for him and got him good publicity like being on The Big Bang Theory and he thought it was all him. He then fired them all and people saw the real him.
Whatever, i’m still calling it Xitter.
I’ve been thinking about this while on the toilet. Why there? Because that’s about the only time I waste time thinking about Twitter.
Call it X. Call it muskX. Call it whatever
But don’t call it Twitter
See, twitter is dead. X is trying to capitalize on the corpse.
Continuing to call it Twitter just gives validity and credibility to X by pretending that it’s the same thing under a different name.
Call it Shitter, call it anything but what gives musk any validation at all
Interesting reasoning, but I prefer mine. I will keep calling it Twitter if only because its CEO fumes when it’s being called Twitter. And I’m okay with that.
It is usually spelt “xitter”
I’m partial to Twixxer myself.
Twatter
I prefer Ex-twitter
The platform formerly known as Twitter.
Call it twitter, but just make it a mastodon instance. Toots not tweets.
I just… don’t talk about it at all… Nothing of value is lost.
But is X gonna give it to us?
It’s funny cause X is as dead a platform as that artist…
