• Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    Nah this ain’t a leftist this is the usual fash game of pretending to be something they’re not and then totally claiming to have contradictory views to that of the group.

    You see this with nazis pretending to be racial minorities that just hate everyone else in their race. “As a black man” type shit.

    You see this with nazis pretending to be lgbt then hating everyone else under that banner.

    This is the same thing. They’re a nazi pretending to be a leftist who just hates other leftists. The goal is to create leftists who agree with this and create a little chuddy clique of them, however few that may attract.

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      Yeah, this is it. They might be genuine but some crank at best, but likely just a liar. It’s very possible for them to be some ACP to ACP-style dipshit who’s bought onto a hatred of PMC and/or conservatism so they think that they’re left wing and then they try to join the left and realize they hate all of them too because they’ve been a fascist the entire time. In like 2 years they’re going to be posting Evola shit mixed with Land shit plus antivax shit or something, probably.

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    14 days ago

    I need to be a toxic asshole online because that’s constructive feedback! No, really. Also, anyone saying anything critical about me is groupthink idpol 1984 vuvuzela! You’re all sheep, reactionary bigotry is the real revolutionary counterculture.

  • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    Anybody else feeling like people who use the term ‘groupthink’ are unintentionally outing themselves? I haven’t seen ANY leftists (except this guy apparently) use the term groupthink, only chuds

    It’s not a dogwhistle because this would be a terrible place to go looking for chud allies, but instead simply the kind of thought process chuds have and end up dropping it in their writings

    • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      Outing themselves? Yeah. It’s not just a chud thing though. It is exactly the same as the discourse around “echo-chambers.” I won’t deny that groupthink or echo-chambers are real phenomena, but rhetorically, whenever anybody is shitting their pants about echo-chambers, they are inevitably complaining about some sub-cultural counter-current from the perspective of an even larger-scale echo-chamber or groupthink.

      Like, your average Redditor wouldn’t be incorrect to call this place an echo-chamber, but the only reason they would feel proud to point this out is due to complete ignorance of their own habits and participation in an even larger echo-chamber.

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        So your default is an ad hominem attack on any potential counter point made?

        You should focus on the content of the comment instead of trying to make up and find a bad actor and their reasoning behind it.

        You’re aware enough to say this place is an echo chamber that attacks people out of line of their group think, but then instead of reflecting on that you say yeah well they have a BIGGER echo chamber that sucks even harder!

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          No, I read PorkrollPosadist’s comment as more of a defense against such ad hominem attacks. If you read it as an attack, then he’s probably talking about you.

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            Literally another attack on the person dripping in believed superiority over other. You’re more alike to op than you think.

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      Being a communist requires one to either completely rediscover all of marxism from first-principles and/or study and super-human intellect, or the ability to agree that there are groups of other people (marxists, communists, etc.) capable of great intellect and wisdom. If they’re self-flattering with a hatred of groups by using groupthink in a non-limited and non-ironic sense then it’s really unlikely they’re a marxist and not some individualist (at best) and like just some misanthropic crank at worst.

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    Oof, normally from Lemmy.world I just expect Reddit Sad. This is the kind of 4chan Sad you’d only see in the particularly sad boards like /b/ or /r9k/. Bubby, burn your fedora and touch grass. Look at a bird until you are normal.

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    A slur is an insulting, derogatory, or defaming remark, or a term used to express contempt against an individual or a specific group based on identity

    Not necessarily racist. Calling cops pigs is a slur by definition for example.

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    Sorry that you want to be a chud but you can’t because you’d be among the first to be culled so you’re here with us, and yet you’re crying that you can’t exercise some type of privilege?

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      frothingfash: “you leftists don’t get it, the only way to beat us is to enter a one-sided friendship with us where we degrade you and you’re always nice to us. Maybe then we might consider entertaining your stupid opinions.”

      Also frothingfash: “The problem with the left is they’re so nice! Niceness is uncool! You guys need to worship stupid assholes because people love stupid assholes!”