I replied to someone saying that the USSR defeated the Nazis saying that it was a group effort. Got into an argument and called a Nazi repeatedly because “I was mad that the USSR defeated the Nazis and hated them for it” which is ridiculous. This isn’t the first time that’s happened on Lemmy. What’s up with that?
.ml is tankie horseshit
See yall at the next scheduled feudpost!
I’m basically new, how would a user like me go about blocking these instances?
I guess all that lend lease equipment we used to prop up the weak soviet industry had nothing to do with it. They thanked us by making a clone of the B-29.
History is fun!
If you can believe it. You can’t believe anything a tankie says.
I asked him to source those charts and he won’t do it. I wonder why.
Because I’m not your failure of a history teacher. If you have a problem with the numbers, talk to me about them and we can figure it out.
“Without the machines we received through Lend-Lease, we would have lost the war.” Josef Stalin
“If the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war. One-on-one against Hitler’s Germany, we would not have withstood its onslaught and would have lost the war. No one talks about this officially, and Stalin never, I think, left any written traces of his opinion, but I can say that he expressed this view several times in conversations with me.” Nikita Kruschev
“People say that the allies didn’t help us. But it cannot be denied that the Americans sent us materiel without which we could not have formed our reserves or continued the war. The Americans provided vital explosives and gunpowder. And how much steel! Could we really have set up the production of our tanks without American steel? And now they are saying that we had plenty of everything on our own.” Georgy Zhukov
You know Stalin said that during a dinner with the western leaders, right? You think a compliment during dinner disputes my data?
You are aware that the CIA admitted that the USSR would have beaten the Germans without the help of the Americans, right?
And Kruschev and Zhukov? Weird that you’d believe the CIA over Soviet leaders.
Go ahead and prove me wrong, lmao.
Nice!
You missed raw resources though. Or logistics. Like tires - it was damn impressive when USA packed and shipped and rebuilt (then knows as) Moscow Tire Factory. Or half a million trucks to transport all that food, or iron (Ural), or coal (Azerbeijan or Kazakhstan, don’t remember). Or literal shitton of trains, or rails. Or that 1/3 of explosives that Red Army used was from Land Lease. Or that the land lease food was canned meat and majority of meat soldiers on the front ate. Or that funny thing about octane fuel, where (some models of) Yaks (e.g Yak 9U) would just not run on the domestic low octane fuel, and had to use Land Lease one (other models just got better performance, of about 20%). Oh, and half of the aluminum USSR needed for the tank engines and airplanes.
But you’re spot on with tanks!
Lmao, your country helped, li’l buddy!
Not an USian here.
Your nick does not match your behaviour.
I got in an argument because someone there claimed the only reason the holocaust is commemorated is to support zionism and I said that there might be other reasons too to commemorate a genocide. Then I made a negative comment about put in the same thread and it was deleted immediately.
Mods on Lemmy are like the mods on reddit but on steroids. They’ll ban you for completely petty nonsense.
i think you have it the other way around. on reddit bannings are more severe, since you get banned from the whole site. you are facing against a sub mod ban, filters, and then the reddit admin filters too. plus thier shadowbans seems much harder to get around with, unless you are using evasion methods. on lemmy you can get banned bya community, or instance, but still can participate in those communities and instances if you have another account. reddit does IP/fingerprinting bans, as well ashadowbans.
Well I said mods not admins.
It’s worth trying out local or niche instances of lemmy as opposed to only the big ones. I think you’ll find a bit more peace that way. The internet is as the internet does, but there’s pockets of relief!
Don’t take it personal. There are some deep Tankie holes on Lemmy, primarily .lm, they’d even take offense if you were suggesting, that maybe not absolutely everything is splendid in North Korea and I am not kidding or exaggerating here.
There are some deep Tankie holes on Lemmy
Deep Tankie Holes are what I’m calling my Lemmy moderator themed porno
Are you looking for talent?
Yeah, what talents you got?
You think they’re bad at ml? Wait till you get a load of hexbear.
I like hexbear’s cute pictures. They, unfortunately, do not like me. That’s okay, it is their instance to run after all. They should run it how they want.
Its not like they purposely built a secret ban list in server hosting software and tried to hide it from the people who downloaded it.
I’m glad we can all find common ground on the “admiral Patrick is a douchebag” front.
They are so weird there. They were arguing that North Korea is definitely not an authoritarian regime and also definitely not starving their citizens or some stupid shit, and one of them started yelling about how I probably believed North Koreans all had the same haircut because of the mainstream media, which I… didn’t, but I said if they did, it wouldn’t be crazy because they have less diverse media to access, but also that wouldn’t have anything to do with why North Korea’s government is bad, but I was just so confused why they were mad about it.
Yeah. Welcome to lemmy.ml
Many of us just block all the communities of lemmy.ml. this way you are out of reach of the tankie mods.
Unfortunately, lemmy.ml is one of the big instances, so you’re also cutting a big chunk of Lemmy content. But if enough people join the ml boycott (there are already a lot of people that block ml), eventually ml will shrink and other more sensible instances will prevail.
Why come to a Marxist website and then block the Marxist creators lmfao. Just go back to reddit.
I’m not in a Marxist website. Notice how my name doesn’t end in “Lemmy.ml”, “Lemmygrad.org” or “hexbear.net”. :)
Also Marxist and tankie is not the same thing. I could be a Marxist and still call out the boot licking tankieness going on in .ml
Who created lemmy, lol?
A tankie did. But Lemmy is not a website. You were talking about websites. The website my account is in is lemmy.world. which is not run by tankies. And tankies do not have any moderation power. Why would a non-tankie avoid a website that is not run or moderated by tankies?
I just see a lot of tankies because Lemmy is a federated system, and one of the big instances is controlled by tankies. I can just block that instance’s communities (as I already do) and move on with my life without being fed tankie-curated-and-moderated content.
Your condescending and pedantic tone is so cliche, lmao.
If you’re starting your interaction with me by telling me to go away, then I’m gonna hit you with all the pedantry I can possibly throw out at once.
If you want respectful conversation, don’t start by being disrespectful :)
I expected nothing less!
Well, the tone seems appropriate to your behaviour.
My behaviour being?
If only. .ml is a bunch blind nut jobs,that’s it. There is no actually goal.
Have another drink, Ray.
as if they dont realize russia uses nazis currently in the war, at least for wagner.
Oh gosh, any snarky comments about the reality of China and the fact that they are pumping out more billionaires than the US always gets deleted on ML.
They are fucking delusional and ignore all evidence that challenges their bizarre viewpoints. When it comes to Russia they are even worse. They are not wrong about Russia doing the heavy lifting in WWII, but they are definitely being assholes about it.
Whenever I am on Lemmy and noticed someone being very passive aggressive around politics you can almost guarantee they are from ML.
Whenever I am on Lemmy and noticed someone being very passive aggressive around politics you can almost guarantee they are from ML.
I have also noticed this a few weeks ago. I don’t know whats with the snarky, ignorant, immature attitude, but its always .ml
I have found that if u make a legitimate argument backed by facts that are irrefutable, the mod will ban you and delete all your comments for breaking from their echo chamber. Decided to return the favor for their whole instance so I no longer have the misfortune of seeing any of the drivel on their communities. Sucks because there was a couple I enjoyed despite the tankies, but there’s much better alternative communities on other instances that won’t kick u out for having a differing opinion. .ml/hexbear basically = authoritarian cuck, it’s like the communist version of Trump supporters as weird as that sounds.
Yeah like others have said they don’t like people saying bad things about China or Russia. I’m banned from a few places for saying jack ma (founder of ali-baba) was disappeared for re-education since he used to be a huge critic of the Chinese government, went missing for like a week, then came back and suddenly started praising the Chinese government and thats not even a little sus?
Can recommend !world@quokk.au as the best alternative
This isn’t the first time that’s happened on Lemmy. What’s up with that?
It was lemmy.ml/worldnews…
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=24410054
If you go to settings you should be able to block an entire instance and then won’t see them on /all
There’s a couple instances that always moderate like that. But you’re better off just hanging out, finding out for yourself, and then blocking what you don’t agree with.
But there’s another that bans people for downvoting AI, but only for a few days so people come back to be trolled. And at least one that bans anyone who tries to take anything seriously.
Stop looking at Lemmy as a single thing, there are dozens of instances acting largely autonomously and if one fucks up, make sure you call out that one and not the entire fediverse.
If you go to settings you should be able to block an entire instance and then won’t see them on /all
Thanks
Stop looking at Lemmy as a single thing, there are dozens of instances acting largely autonomously and if one fucks up, make sure you call out that one and not the entire fediverse.
Fair enough. The way Lemmy works is kinda confusing.
You know how multiplayer games can have different servers with different rules and people? Same thing.
Just remember to block .ml and you should be fine! Not many others ban you for speaking.
Ya the guys in Lemmy.ml tend to be pretty weird like that. They aren’t a monolith but in general they tend to think that Russia, China, and North Korea have never done anything bad and that all the evil in the world comes from capitalism in europe and America and that the whole world will be fixed when The Revolution comes. It is all sort of like evangelical Christianity with the numbers filed off, the president of the United States is like an appointed satan (appointed, not elected, they don’t believe elections work/are real in the west) who rules over hell which is the west (sometimes stylized as “Amerikkka”, often accompanied by an American flag emoji with a fire emoji on top of it or a jpeg of a Chinese emperor shooting a fireball), Karl Marx is sort of like Jesus and mao, lenin, Stalin, etc. are the disciples, and The Revolution is the rapture. It is a pretty interesting belief system and I think the .ml guys all mean well, but they can be really difficult to talk to sometimes, as you’ve seen.
thats because its true, if you left your liberal echo chamber and read real news and read theory properly it would all make sense 😒
Yeah, it’s totally true, everyone knows the only member of the allied forces was actually the USSR. No other country fought against the Nazis, they did completely single handedly, and totally wouldn’t have just sat there and let it happen, if Hitler hadn’t violated their non aggression pact first.
Real News? Can you provide an example?
Russia Today, of course.
Whatever propaganda suits their narrative
it’s hard to tell why because all of your comments have been deleted
Should still be in the modlog, right?
Deleted for saying the Soviets didn’t win the war singlehandedly.
