• robotElder2 [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Unfortunately this is a “red team” report. Its an internal devil’s advocate sort of thing, not actually the internally accepted analysis of the CIA. That this is detailed in a red report seems to suggest that they consider this an unlikely fringe possibility.

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      22 hours ago

      I don’t exactly trust the upper CIA echelons to be fair arbiters of this. They have a vested political interest in maintaining a certain vision and message.

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        That’s correct. The red team reports are a part of how they maintain that vision not a dissenting opinion. Its opposition research. They had one of their least drunk mormons write a paper in the voice of an optimistic pro Palestine analyst to see what would happen.

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    Israel is a deeply unstable country internally. Not over issues like the genocide, as that’s pretty broadly popular, but there are so many internal contradictions. Fascism, especially in its mature state, is not a stable governing structure. It’s like a Ponzi scheme, but as a government.

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      Don’t they also have a weird internal racism class/caste structure too? For instance I’ve heard anecdotally that Yiddish and those that speak it are heavily persecuted, similarly there’s also case of the Ethiopian Jewish diaspora and how Israel abused them as well.

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        They have multiple.

        There is the obvious split, Israeli and Palestinian.

        Then, there are the Druze awkwardly shoved in the middle as the “acceptable” racial minority that they leverage against the Palestinians.

        There is deep white supremacist strains, where black Jewish people are treated as lesser, including even sterilization.

        One of the biggest internal splits, and the one perhaps most dangerous to the State, is the Haredi groups, which are a flavor of ultra-orthodox Judaism. They have an exemption from serving in the IDF, which they very much take, “studying the Torah” instead. They are the main driver of population growth in Israel, generally aren’t super wealthy, and are opposed to serving in the military, albeit for selfish reasons rather than moral. Collectively, this is a very big issue for the Israeli project that’s silently growing in the background. They’re also incredibly regressive in regards to stuff like women, which isn’t a surprise.

        They aren’t the only strain of reactionary though of course. There are soooo many different fucked up groups in Israel trying to enact their great future vision. There’s a reason why Netanyahu is “the Moderate” by those who get Israeli society. It gets so much more insane. Some of these groups are more secular, many are religious, but all of them are tearing into the base foundation of the society. They are also all conditioned to commit horrific violence by the nature of the Israeli state.

        This is all of course surrounded by an increasingly strained and isolated Israeli economy leading to worsened living conditions, worse employment and so on. It’s an incredibly unstable powder keg. It’s only a matter of time until the knives start turning inward, in a very bloody way.

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          Jeez, well that’s both sad but comforting that the end of all extremist settler societies is to destroy one’s self as everything turns towards their neighbors, here’s hoping it happens sooner than later.