• dead [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    4 days ago

    This happened 3 months ago. Connor Murphy died from drowning in a lake in Thailand. His two bro-science friends claim that he was injecting gold and that the gold injection made him behave erratically.

    I think there’s not enough evidence to show that injecting gold would make him behave erratically. There are documented instances of people injecting gold for medical research. I think Connor was probably behaving erratically prior to injecting gold, if he even actually injected gold.

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      As I recall the comments from his social group implied that he was erratic before and also experimenting with amphetamines, though I’m certain it was the gold

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      He may have been scammed, we’ve all had run ins with door to door metal salesmen, and sometimes they’ll try and pass off gold coloured mercury as liquid gold to try and swindle you.

      Just this morning, a man tried to palm off some copper so shit it’d make Ea-nasir blush. I said “Look, buddy, I’m in the market for copper because I’m making High Bandwidth Memory chips in my bathroom right now, and you’re offering copper not even suitable for roof gutters. Please come back with some actually good copper and then we can talk”.

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    Horrible situation, horrible thing to have happen due to a diseased society focused too hard on beauty at the cost of one’s health, but I have to say, being driven mad after attempting to ascend past humanity’s limitations after achieving physical perfection is one hell of a way to go.

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    I keep hoping that more rich asshole dispose of themselves like Chinese nobles (apocryphally) did

    Like, Elon just blowing himself up on a rocket trying to launch himself to the moon

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      Instead he’ll just make it illegal to say that whatever state Grok is in when he dies is his will in digital form and he’ll post Dr, House screenshots cause he’ll still be in 2011 when he dies.

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    We don’t need to rediscover all of science and medicine from first principles guys I promise that you can trust some people in some times and situations and be mostly ok

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    Yeah there’s nooooo way it also could have just been your garden variety stimulant/amphetamine psychosis

    I have a sneaking suspicion his buddy was doing meth/adderall/other stimulants to stay lean.

    Amphetamines combined with lack of sleep can fuck with your head. (Especially if you’re already an idiot.)

    For the record everyone: Methamphetamine is growing rapidly in terms of popularity, all over the world.

    Crystal meth can absolutely destabilize one’s mental health to the point it is scary.

    Yes it can make you lose weight and concentrate on boring tasks but you HAVE to fucking sleep and eat. (A lot of people just stop taking care of themselves cause the physiological cues for hunger and rest don’t happen on these drugs)

    Don’t use meth every day. Duh.

    If you begin to feel like you’re experiencing things that are outside the realm of normal possibility you might want to put it down and take a Valium and just go to fucking bed.

    Thank you this has been my meth TED talk.

    (2 years clean this November.)

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        Yes the way the product is made has changed. From the synthesis, to the facilities, scale and locations.

        Meth cooking has moved from sporadic, scattered psuedoephedrine based small batch cooks in the United States to MASSIVE scale superlabs in Mexico.

        The formula has changed though as well, psuedoephedrine is too difficult to obtain at the scale that it is needed to produce this much meth. So these new meth factories use the P2P (phenyl-2-propanone) method. This is the one they use in breaking bad for the same reason essentially once they get big enough.

        What has changed with this method is that the meth comes out as a racemic mixture and must be cleaned up to get a pure D-Methamphetamine product, or mostly cleaned up. The remain L-Methamphetamine makes the high less mentally euphoric and more physically stimulating.

        (Essentially less potent mg for mg.)

        More product is needed to get the same effect compared to pure D-Meth which is what psuedoephedrine synthesis produces.

        This new super lab product is also usually less clean in general. It often is more likely to contain potential leftover contaminants simply because it’s made in huge batches by a group that has only recently decided to go all in on meth.

        They also aren’t like… taste testing their products. Often, small batch cooks would do this, they were addicts too lol

        Superlabs just make tons of this new more “commercial grade” stuff and hope it turns out well after it’s refined a couple times.

        It’s often cheaper for the end user and the price speaks for itself. It sells itself, a small dip in potency for a huge price break is a no brainer.

        At least this is what I have learned for the most part. It is different now for sure though.

        (Once again I do not use this drug any longer and my life is much better off for it)

  • CupcakeOfSpice [she/her, fae/faer]@hexbear.net
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    I feel like there was probably some mental health issues going on. Whether before or after the gold, I think this person probably had some kind of delusional thinking or maybe mania? I’m not a doctor, I won’t try to diagnose him, but I think the real atrocity is his “friends” not intervening and getting him help and instead apparently cheering him on and hoping he would succeed in this ridiculous experiment.

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      Yeah, unless they were doing some very high dosing or whatever they were injecting wasn’t gold or had some other chemical, I don’t think what I’m seeing online matches with what’s being described.

      Lots of mentions of gold miscoloring skin (matches) but almost none about psychological or neurological effects. Mentions of gold and gold salts being used and having some reactions (positive and negative), but no warning or mention of mental breakdown. Warnings of contamination from certain gold salts and non-gold heavy metal contaminations. In fact, one article I found claims gold doesn’t even cross the blood-brain barrier? (https://sci-hub.ru/10.1080/10408444.2018.1513991:“The blood–brain barrier prohibits passage of most metal particles or therapeutic agents (Lansdown 2007; Gromnicova et al. 2013).”)

      Definitely seems like the gold thing is more a symptom then a cause to me but I ain’t a doctor.

    • Yeah I really don’t know how to parse the bit about hoping he would be vindicated… Like, does he mean he was hoping his buddy had actually discovered the gold secret to etental life? The chances of that are uh vanishingly small, and I feel like our mans here should know that P: