• HakFooEnglish
      18·
      6 天前

      I can sort of see the vision, even if the execution is sus. A car designed as “self driving first” provides a chance to reconsider interior design. I figure we’ll know self-driving has arrived when there’s a keg mounted between the front seats, or maybe the front seats swivel 360 degrees if the “driver” no longer has to keep an eye on the road.

      I could see offering a different workflow for “emergency move the car out of traffic”, like a plug-in override console limited to 5km/h or something.

      Comparable: they used to make railway locomotives designed without a full cab, since they were usually sold in sets with another loco with a full cab. You could decouple them and they had a minimal control stand just useful to nudge them around, but you wouldn’t want to out one up front.

      • balsoft@lemmy.mlEnglish
        381·
        6 天前

        I think the vision should be “fuck cars, build rail everywhere”. Self-driving cars are still cars and still need to fuck off.

      • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        14·
        6 天前

        A car designed as “self driving first” provides a chance to reconsider interior design

        Problem here is that you would have to be willing to recreate about 60 years of car safety development before you do that. Tesla clearly won’t, so they shouldn’t mess with the safest we’ve managed to create.

        • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
          6·
          6 天前

          The steering wheel and column aren’t necessarily better for safety, you can set up the driver’s side the same way you’d do the passenger side and this will actually give a passenger more room and reduce lower limb intrusion (and thus better survival) during a collision.

          I don’t trust Tesla not to fuck all of this up of course, but the steering column used to be the deadliest part of a car until shockingly recently. If you’re old enough to vote or drink in any country, you’re older than safe steering columns being a common feature of brand-new cars.

  • HakFooEnglish
    16·
    6 天前

    And yet I can imagine an even stupider idea: to allow first-responders override access, let them pair an Xbox 360 controller to operate the vehicle.

    This goes swimmingly until one picks up a family visiting a GameStop.

  • loaExMachina [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    81·
    5 天前

    Remember this, aspiring engineers:
    If you can make a thing that’s pretty neat in ideal conditions when everything works as it should, you can stop there. It is not your responsibilty to handle what can happen in irregular circumstances or to handle potential failures. Assume everything will always be alright, and if not, it’ll be someone else’s problem.

    • barrbaric [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      6·
      5 天前

      Engineering ethics course will now be a single sentence displayed on a whiteboard: “If something you signed off on fails, just blame it on Grok”

    • CPMSP@midwest.socialEnglish
      3·
      5 天前

      And who knows which way it will choose to steer? Likely to stay in the lanes, per programming… Right?.. Right?

  • restless [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    2·
    5 天前

    Can’t wait for some first responders to get out on foot to push one of these, and then promptly get ran over as the vehicle snaps out of being stalled

  • adwijoma@lemmy.mlEnglish
    1·
    5 天前

    Why not force prisoners to work for free, travelling around pushing these bricked devices out of the way.