Meme:

POV: it’s year 2048 and you forgot to pay your toilet subscription ,😭💔😹

Picture: person trying to open a closed toilet

  • ZeroHora@lemmy.ml
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    7 days ago

    in 2048? Bro, in 2048 you won’t have the option to open it with your hands. You need to tell the super IA to open for you.

    Without subscription the IA will say: “I’m sorry Dave… I’m afraid I cant do that”

  • Sleepless One@lemmy.ml
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    8 days ago

    Fun fact: evil people can be used as public toilets while they’re still alive. You just need to get creative.

  • Krem [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    8 days ago

    optimistic and bloomerpilled to assume there will be enough internet and electricity to use on frivolities like smart appliances 20 years from now.

    more likely the oligarchs will have you pay the daily fee to get 5L of grey water redirected to your pipes so you can flush and wash your hands

  • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    8 days ago

    hbomberguy has a new 4.5 hour long video essay on this subject (EAAS, not toilets specifically) and it’s pretty stellar. It should be fully available soon.

  • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]@hexbear.net
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    8 days ago

    Sadly it will probably take something like this before most people consider using a composting toilet, which requires no connecting infrastructure, is not dependent on water pressure or electricity, never clogs or spills over or fails to flush, uses byproducts to stay sanitary, gives you fertilizer after 6 months, and unlike its cousin the portapotty does not smell offensive or use harsh chemicals.

    • Krem [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      8 days ago

      most people* live in apartments and have no way of using composting toilets. i’m not going to occupy my balcony with several buckets of slowly decaying poop and sawdust

      • i have no data for this, just assuming based on people i know it-is-known
      • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]@hexbear.net
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        7 days ago

        Just short of 40% of American households are renters; it’s harder to get stats on whether they’re house rentals or apartmebt rentals.

        We’re going to have to completely redesign the built environment anyway in the Green Leap Forwardliterally just surviving climate change.

        • Krem [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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          7 days ago

          it’s so awesome that we went from my grandparents generation using communal dry toilets in the yard behind the apartment building to my parents generation using indoor toilets that flush ridiculous amounts of clean drinking water down the drain, back to communal dry toilets behind the apartment building in my lifetime

          composting toilets are cool but i’ve only used them in the countryside where they’ve been surrounded by fresh air and shared by a few people in total. urban public composting toilets are going to be interesting le-monke

          • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]@hexbear.net
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            7 days ago

            This isn’t a special case; our use of many modern technologies is going to burn their logistics out of existence because we insist on deploying everything to its fullest extent rather than considering what the long-term effects and benefits and interests are. One way or another, we are going to go back to using appropriate technology for 90% of our everyday needs; the only question is whether we do it voluntarily with preparation or all of a sudden with mass disruption and suffering.

            The highest number of people I’ve ever seen using composting toilets is 80 across two latrines (in-ground) for a few days, or 130 across three stalls (removable buckets) for a week.
            It’s incredibly easy to do; anyone who has read/researched/understood the equivalent of two or three specific technical books can build something that won’t be an airborne or waterborne biohazard, does not consume the obscured embodied labor of third parties (beyond what it takes to make toilet paper and collect sawdust and ash), and can fit at least 12 person-years of solid waste for each rotating 2-compartment construction. While keeping them within a 90-second slow walk and with no unpleasant impacts beyond a 20-foot radius (basically the same separation as smoking away from building entrances), you could easily fit 5 of these double units to service an acre, maybe more. 60 people per acre rivals a typical urban density in an apartment complex with a Floor Area Ratio of 0.5 or an urban neighborhood with dense single-family houses.

            It’s totally doable in an urban setting; the biggest hurdle is people being decontextualized and insisting on having a place within 20 steps where potable water is pumped in to whisk away their feces. That sort of thing only makes sense when you’re accustomed to everything operating in a state of ecological overshoot, and ignoring the consequences.

            Composting toilets, rocket mass heaters, passive solar and geothermal construction, solar water heaters, rainwater collection, bicycling as the main form of transportation, and doing most cooking in bulk would reduce our resource usage by maybe about 80%. PV solar and heat pumps would take a big chunk out of the rest. Combined with the “collective will”, appropriate technology can save the world and give people an equal or better quality of life.

      • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]@hexbear.net
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        8 days ago

        I haven’t had that happen to me in the last 10+ years of using flush toilets, but I don’t live alone and other people are going to make mistakes.

        No need to turn the problem of opaque and proprietary technology into a case of victim blaming. Take control of your means of existence with technology you can easily understand and replicate for yourself, that doesn’t put you at the mercy of the bourgeoisie.
        Shit in a bucket* and flush with a cup of sawdust, it’ll change your life.

        *Or a sheltered trench, or preferably a latrine with two seasonal storage compartments.