“The future is for everyone,” Zuckerberg says, describing future that is primarily good for Meta.
Your agent will work 24/7 on your behalf to improve your relationships, health, career, finances, home management, hobbies, and more.
It’ll do your hobbies, your friends, your family, so that you can focus on working harder for the rich
Fuck you you robot
I find with a lot of AI pitches, even if AI was super intelligent and worked perfectly, I can not for the life of me understand what the pitch is even saying.
It would work to improve my health? How exactly? Like what in the world could it even be doing, put together a meal plan?
It would work to improve my hobbies? Again, what could that even mean. I like to garden, what would the AI be bringing to this equation, suggestions about what to plant… I know what I want to plant, it’s my fucking hobby.
Even when you pay people to do these things, like a personal trainer to hit fitness goals, a huge part of it is being held accountable by someone. The knowledge of how to put together an exercise routine and meal schedule is part of what you get, the other part is the relationship with that human, them encouraging you and celebrating your success or not giving up because you don’t want to disappoint.
Someone working on managing my house would be able to do tangible labor like wash the dishes or fold the laundry, ChatGPT telling me that washing the dishes will make the kitchen cleaner isnt the part of the equation most people are missing.
It’ll be working 24/7 to advance my career and my finances? How? What could that possibly mean, I’m sleeping and it’s doing something to advance my career. If I hired a human assistant and I woke up one morning and they told me they’d been up all night advancing my career, I would be genuinely concerned.
I often feel like I’m taking crazy pills. These things generate text. So few of the things I need to get done are helped at all by having additional text, no matter what that text says.
Robot! Experience this dramatic irony for me!
Eventually, it will just say “Well, we’ve tried, and it seems that you are as irredeemable as you believe you are. The only option left is to end it all.”
Why can’t these people just take their money and go away?
It’s never enough. Diseased motherfuckers. They should be institutionalized
When you have enough money to buy everything, then it seems people start looking for things that money can’t buy. They’re looking for domination over as many people as possible.
It will have strong privacy and security options so you can trust it to handle all of your personal content knowing that no one else can access your information
Like anyone paying a modicum of attention would believe this. They’ve proved themselves untrustworthy time after time.
Fuck you, Mark Zuckerberg, you loser.
They “trust him”. Dumb fucks.
Hahah, yes, the system that’s been trained on personal content, asks you repeatedly for more personal content, and then offers it up to anyone else who asked something even tangentially related, can be trusted not to reveal your personal content.
Fuckerberg, like Musk, wants so badly to be the creator of a popular thing. Facebook is his only actual success, but even that was stolen.
Metaverse was his Cybertruck. The pervert glasses will also fail.
Every success he has was stolen or purchased. Every original idea he’s had has been an obscenely expensive, disastrous failure, because like all Sociopathic Oligarchs, he thinks he can force anything to be a success if you throw enough money at it. He has proven that wrong, several times.
Anything to keep from paying your employees, or your taxes.
So… the ones suffering from AI psychosis are the billionaire sociopaths pushing this technology towards human extinction, right?
At this point, the LLMs are the only friends the billionaires have. They are spending trillions on AI cause they want friends and can’t find any among the human race.
It looks like you’re lonely, may I suggest:
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That is not an error. That is the complete list of ideas that would make you less of a loser.
What else can I help you with?
You are a horrible person. I’m serious, that’s what it says: A horrible person. We weren’t even testing for that.
weird
“Billionaire” is already a mental illness. You have to exploit so many people to reach that status. Then you have to look at solvable problems like suffering, inequality, starvation, child mortality, diseases, etc and choose to let it happen so your meaningless “high score” goes up.
We shouldn’t listen to them…
i think they should be treated the same as hoarders, alcoholics, drub abusers, and gambling addicts. Its the same disease, just a different substance.
We have the technology to make water fountains, we have the tech to give everyone free food, water, electricity, cloth. Do we have any of this? No! That’s enough proof that, they will never give us anything apart from making us work more.
We just need a way to replace their real money with play money. One night we just disconnect their bank accounts, quietly move their beds into a Truman Show bubble and let them pretend they’re running the world
These tech bros think we haven’t noticed they are just about money and greed. #CEO$arentPeople
Ihr wart dabei!
They think we don’t know you can use an LLM to write a billion word essay. Dude didn’t write shit, he prompted his rage.
Of course the word salad of an essay was probably written by an AI itself.
I read it in its entirety. I would argue against your point, but it’s hard given Mark has never sounded human.
Mark who?
If he actually believed any of this, he wouldn’t have fired the Llama dev lab at the drop of a hat.
Zuck comes off as an acolyte here, but he’s not. He’s hollow and insecure. He doesn’t believe any of this; he’ll change his tune with the wind the moment he feels a little nervous.
I honestly cannot believe he has been in charge of Meta this long. Like, I didn’t realize how fickle he was until recently, when I really looked back at his history.
I bet he’s paralyzed with imposter syndrome.
Rightfully so.
Meta is structured in such a way that he can never be fired.
why? i mean cant someone with the highest share can kick him out?
C’mon sun, give us a beautiful CME that sends us back to the stone age. Make us all truly equal on this planet again. We’ll sacrifice the rich in your name as our ancestors intended.
Zuck and the rest of the 5-meow-meow-bean possee is just hoping to distract us long enough with bullshit to get their private compounds ready before all of us 1-meow-meow-beans drag them from their homes and hang them upside down in city squares.
Dibs on the Zardoz outfit!
The Facebook Phone, Oculus Quest, now AI?
You’ve had so many chances Mark. So many chances to do what PEOPLE actually wanted… And you’ve NEVER got it right.
Try LISTENING. For once.
how long is it going to take for people to realize these companies aren’t making products for people, they’re using you as the product to sell to advertisers and state agencies. they don’t care if you like it they only care if you use it.
This is the core of the issue right freaking here
What was the right choice?
Quest was solid. VR hardware at a fraction of the price of Valve while not being locked down so you could sideload anything you wanted or play Steam PC VR games without hassle.
Lemmy hates AI but even Linus uses it now so it’s monthly revenue that people will pay for even if it is stupid and created off of theft. People pay money for all sorts of stupid things so it’s foolish not to at least try and get a piece of it.
Edit:
Don’t downvote without explaining!
Why does anyone think “listening to customers” is how capitalist companies make money? Candy Crush made billions by not listening because they know the average consumer is stupid.
Facebooks idea for improving vr was buying out all the major game studios, never doing anything with them, then shutting them down and taking down the servers.
All mean while they tried to push this idea of the “metaverse” which aims to be the place you work, play, watch movies, events, buy fictional property, buy nfts, etc, etc. The biggest failure facebook has seen thus far. Its so pathetic that they changed their name to meta as if they where betting on the idea everyone was going to walk around with a vr headset. Its ironic they didnt quickly change their name back as fast as they gave up on vr for glasses and ai.
The consumer is always right, the ceos are always disillusional to the point of incompetence. The only time it ever works out is when they have a monopoly or enough money to force their inflated egos on the rest of the population, forcing us to go down with them when inevidbily they fall.
Facebooks idea for improving vr was buying out all the major game studios, never doing anything with them, then shutting them down
Xbox is famous for that and PS does it too.
All mean while they tried to push this idea of the “metaverse”
Yeah Metaverse was a collosal failure. But it’s one app on the Quest hardware. The Google Pixel is a still a good hackable phone despite Google+ being a huge failure for Google.
The consumer is always right
Consumers took to micro transactions like fish to water. Apple became a Trillion dollar company by ignoring the consumer and forcing their way.
“A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals, and you know it.”
Just reread my last paragraph and that is my reply.
Repeating “consumers are always right” isn’t a rebuttal.
Consumers weren’t forced to buy iphones through monopoly or money. They did it because in general, they are stupid.
It was more the second half of the last paragraph I was trying to drive home. I wanted to make a point about how the app market is a closed Eco system and how that is a form of abusive control to ensure people don’t have a choice even if they don’t like it. Yeah I’m sorry I didn’t put more effort the last reply, it I just kind of mentally moved on and wasn’t feeling it. I’m still not now honestly or I would of obnoxiously wrote you 8 more paragraphs.
The way you framed it in your last sentence really reasonated with me and I understand your point now. Yes I agree some what, but no. I genuinely think people are smarter than you give them credit, but are limited by time, and are physically limited by the info the are presented. There’s a million different cultures and things happening at once and you have a narrow scope of vision where you are stuck in a demographic that is being advertised to and manipulated.
Did you not have any experience with reddit? You crossed the hive mind on VR and AI, and you are also getting in the way of a hate train. If a sub or post is about hating someone, that hate has to be pure, unconditional and undistracted.
But to your points: Quest. Agree. Awesome piece of tech; however Mark Zuckerberg tried to turn it into something nobody wanted: an entry into an artificial world where people could live entirely on Facebook’s servers. There was so much wrong with the MetaVerse, as conceived, that it takes several YouTube videos to explain all of it, but, as a movie guy, this is my favorite primer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLItp5SiRGw
AI: Strongly disagree there is any kind of mass market for AI. Claude, the most heavily used programming LLM, which is the best use case for an LLM’s mass adoption, recently tried raising prices to start to turn a profit. People started limiting their tokens or dropping the service entirely.
Another massive chunk of LLM use is people taking their AI-generated content to make a few bucks. A service that costs $4 to make $5 worth of product will naturally see huge adoption! It’s not the future if that $4 is heavily subsidized. The instant the actual cost is $5 investment for $5 worth of product, that technology is as dead as aspirin suppositories.
At this point in the game, it’s obvious that AI in a bubble driven by insane levels of social and regulatory failure, and Zuckerberg is just getting on the bandwagon to impress his cool billionaire friends.
Apple and Android both followed the same path: Let DIY people do what they want, follow that community let them create wild and free tech on your platforms using your tools for free.
This is how apple started, it’s how google started, it’s the nature of the early internet and computer companies.
That should give you a clue to what went wrong with the Facebook Phone and Quest. Quest has been against developers for a long time, there’s very little support for devs there, because Zuckerberg wanted them to all go make the Metaverse for him (same thing is currently being attempted with Unreal Engine 6 and their metaverse attempt “Verso”).
AI simply steals from people and defrauds/denies and lies about it. That’s their approach to the DiY, hacker, and FOSS developer ethos that made the internet and cool shit we have possible. All these large companies now think theft and mistreatment of devs and FOSS are the way forward. When it’s the way to stagnation and death.
But this time AI companies have automated the theft, and hooked it up to mass proliferation of data centers and deregulated pollution. Killing the planet and the software ecosystem at the same time.
Apple and Android both followed the same path: Let DIY people do what they want
Apple? Apple hasn’t been open since 1984. Apple is defined by the principle that they know better than you and will go out of their way to not listen and force their customers into their vision.
AI simply steals from people
That’s what I said! But if it makes money companies are going to do it.
It’s a double standard to attack Meta for not supporting developers when Valve doesn’t support developers either. They sell VR hardware at 2x the cost and developers have to figure it out for themselves just like Meta.
But yeah Metaverse was a huge failure. They were looking to copy Roblox, but the developer hurdles are higher on VR so they couldn’t rely on child labor like Roblox.
…since 1984.
Yes I’m talking about the start of successful platforms/companies. How they get going, grow and become successful. Not whatever recent apple tech or meta/valve double standard you’re on about. But duely noteted, you woke up wanting a conversation about being fairer to corporations and AI that no one else here is having.
Whereas I’m talking about the topic. Zuckerberg trying a top down path to popularizing his tech.
How they get going, grow and become successful.
But Facebook isn’t a startup. It’s not 2001. Facebook was the product back then. Once they had billions, they needed to create new markets to keep growing. When Apple “listened to their customers” they were a $100M company. When they stopped listening and took a top down path to popularizing tech they became a $1T company.
The iPhone was not a bottom up technology created by hackers like Linux.
The Quest is Android. It’s more DIY than an iPhone.
The iPhone was a bottom up technology:
Fingerworks iGesture Pad invented by a man with hand injuries who couldn’t use a conventional mouse.
https://www.history.com/articles/iphone-original-size-invention-steve-jobs
But yeah, we heard you the first time, you love ride corporate dick.
Apple buying iGesture means ground up but Meta buying Oculus isn’t? You can’t have it both ways.
The iPhone wasn’t DIY which was your original claim. It was the opposite. Apple locked down their phone. Quest is Android which you claimed is DIY.
You aren’t making any sense.
Oculus hardware was the means to make leap into otherwise unattainable dream of Metaverse. Didn’t everyone laughed at the idea of everyone binging Facebooks VR Chat for every social interaction and service? But it so happened, that a byproduct of that idea became an affordable VR headset.
Billionaire Bro Zuck literally writes that the goal now is wiring AI, once again, to every our interaction with the world that sounds self-contradictory and delusional even in short quoted paragraphs. Well, if we get some open models out of it, fine, but it’s not like we get superb technologies from a space program. We get nice things from the Torment Nexus they still fail to build.
Why does anyone think “listening to the customers” is how capitalist companies make money?
Because it’s a surface level. Most businesses in the world provide services where and when they sell organically. It’s a given you sell more ice cream somewhere on the beach in warm season. CC wasn’t selling riichi mahjong to bored white people, they created a pretty basic timekiller, one in the millions. They outsmarted competition by shiny graphics, addictive mechanics, gambling-like techniques and marketing. That’s not what Zuck tries to sell or do in his speech.
He doesn’t promote something simple, like CharacterAI selling their sex bot with nsfw ads targeting lonely people. Or Grok being there to make waifus from the girl you liked in highschool targetting X dot com users. Or even Google suggesting it can make this email for you. Mark once again has a convoluted image of everything-app that solves every problem so you as a person can just physically log off, lol. I don’t think even the dumbest person in the room feels nothing is off about it. At best, it sounds like a fever dream about something in the future.
If he wasn’t looking so goofy, I could’ve thought he is talking to investors instead. Like, the better example from the past is cloud infrastructure, and while no one with contemporary mobile internet felt it’d work, it worked with enough push and technological advancement - so much for the needy consumer! But to see that you need to be clever and know the time is about now.
He is telling that the end user’s gonna be wrapped in their AI services like in a blanket. And while it’s safe to place some bets on that, just in case it works out in the end, his history with Metaverse disaster being a very similar thing doesn’t infuse long-term trust in his visions. It’s okay for Wall Street to gamble with that toy for a while, but he isn’t even Musk in that dimension and calls his shots after everyone else when the hype is already down.
His Meta is a behemoth that wouldn’t die anytime soon, he’s safe to preach and try anything. But instead of generalized bullshit we hoomans certainly need, he may instead start small and sell something we probably want, that ticks at least one box in our list. Like, I’ve seen a lot of people still using FB for it’s marketplace, and I’m sure some LLM agent can be implemented there to consult both consumer and seller. Like the one who looks for generic pictures, duplicates, untrusty deals, weird descriptions etc on the buyer’s side. It seems like an obvious thing that compliments his own service, but to know that he needs to use his own service, lol.
Completely detached from humanity.
