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  • TheFriar@lemm.eeto196@lemmy.worldDefinition of rulesanity
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    3 days ago

    No you misunderstood. You’re boiling the entire issue down to race and sex, which is just absurd. Firstly, Harris retained more male Biden voters than female. And the race thing? I mean, Obama was elected by a massive margin. So you’re either saying a huge number of people have become racist in the past 15 years, or you’re just wrong about it being a determining factor in presidential elections. Are these issues for some people? Of course. Racism and sexism very much exist. But attributing her loss to them is stupid.

    Harris couldn’t carry close to a majority of democrats in the primary. In fact she got nearly zero traction. She was almost invisible for four years as vp, and then was shoved into place a few months out from the election. And what does she do with that precious little time? She carts out the fucking Cheney family and says she wouldn’t do anything different from Biden and waffles on the genocide until catching flack, and then said she would push for a ceasefire. And didn’t she basically disappear the last few weeks of the election?

    She ran such a terrible campaign while towing the line on Israel. Republicans don’t care. But a good portion of dems and leftists were saying it was a big issue. And how many times have we heard lies from the pulpit? So when she basically came back and said “no seriously I’ll do something!” No one who cares believed her.

    So many people who would vote democrats feel entirely betrayed by the party for way too long. And they’re not solving that problem. They continue to lean right to capture “swing voters.”

    The right doesn’t have this problem. They’re pushing further and further extreme and the democrats are not offering a legitimate opposition party. Blaming that massive issue on people being “sexist and racist” is so fucking absurd. That is why I said your take is dumb. Because it is so simplistic and off the mark that there’s no nicer word for it.














  • TheFriar@lemm.eetoLefty Memes@lemmy.dbzer0.comThe same picture
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    5 days ago

    But the problem is that this is the exact problem that led to the fascist taking office. The most historically unpopular president plagued by every possible crime and scandal, and the democrats run a Republican. That is why they keep losing. They keep people even remotely left of Republican, like Bernie and AOC, at arms length (at best) from the party, while propping up Joe Biden and Nancy pelosi (almost literally). And then they keep saying “this is the most progressive ticket in history!”

    They’re selling out any possible goodwill hey had. Which was very little, if any. And then they turn around and point the finger at us. All while capitalizing on the fascists taking office and capitulating to their agenda, while the talking heads go on to and say “the problem is the party got ‘too woke’ and forgot about the everyday Americans!”

    They have clearly failed at this since running a fake progressive in Obama, who also proved everything by running a legitimately progressive campaign in 08 and won by historic numbers. I’m not going to say it was the money behind the party that made them stop even pretending they give a shit…but it was (most likely). They are not a legitimate opposition party. And when the choices are between one of two, well that’s a massive fucking problem. And they’re not addressing it.

    So, yes. There is a fascist in office. But if this foundational problem doesn’t get solved and the dems keep moving right (while the OW concept of “right” has shifted so far away from center), then the fascists will continue to radicalize, pulling the entire Democratic Party rightward with it.

    That is a problem that needs to get solved before we can get a fascist out of power. Unless we’re talking…like, gonzo style.