This is the race most of the country and the world has it’s eyes on right now. It is reguarded as a referedum on Zionazi lobby money in our politics.
Haley “Israel comes to me in my Dreams” Stevens 
VS
Dr. Abdul El-Sayed 
Abdul does not identify as a socialist but is very pro Medicare for all and very much Pro Palestine. Calls out AIPAC for spending over $60 Million against him.
I don’t see a thread about Missouri, hope you don’t mind if I hijack this for a moment because I see folks on Reddit baffled about why Cori Bush lost and I’m banned there so getting it out here.
I feel like there’s a big disconnect between national commentators like Hasan and MikefromPA and locals in St. Louis. Bush - whether it’s fair or unfair - has a major reputation in St. Louis. I guess the best way to say it is… folks in her district see her as a grifter. The faith healing stuff, tornado relief funds, hiring her husband on the campaign, that controversy with her security team when she was in congress. I’ve given up trying to figure how much of it is true, but that doesn’t really matter; people in St. Louis believe it’s true. Even people that like her politics think she’s sus. And Wesley Bell, outside of the Israel/AIPAC stuff, is generally well aligned with voters in MO-1. He’s affable and seen as professional and reliable. American voters and Dem voters in particular are turning on Israel, but I would also caution against assuming it’s Dem voters top priority.
St. Louis DSA needs to get someone else other than Cori Bush. I don’t think she has any political future in St. Louis.
But in more positive news, amendments 4 and 5 are getting stomped, like the “no” votes are putting up Assad numbers. Amendment 4 would have eliminated income taxes and replaced them with sales taxes, and 5 would have eliminated the ability for the people to vote on constitutional amendments and pass with a simple majority (which is good in MO, because when it comes down to individual issues MO voters are to the left of Dem politicians)
Edit: to clarify, not only would amendment 5 stopped voters from being able to amend the constitution, but the GOP-dominated legislature would also get the ability to amend the constitution by a simple majority. So for example, while abortion is currently legal the legislature would have banned it day one had amendment 5 passed.
The faith healing stuff
Close enough, welcome back Dr John Hagelin
Faith healing stuff? Lol uh oh what
Yes she runs a shady faith healing business. I think the left can do better than her.
damn, she’s either a grifter who shouldn’t be in charge of anything or a true believer who shouldn’t be allowed to make decisions or give advice.
I don’t think this is true. She has some beliefs that are out there from where I’m sitting, but I’m guessing they’re pretty common where she is, but the business claim seems to be false. Looks like someone fell for an AIPAC funded campaign set on de-legitimizing Bush. Sure maybe she’s burned now and DSA needs to run someone else, but lets put the blame where it belongs.
i’m mostly seeing rags but apparently she talks about it in some autobiography. zero tolerance for faith “healing”.
That’s why I said that whether it’s true or not, locals typically believe it’s true, and that affects the vote results. The problem is even if the faith healing part isn’t true or is mostly untrue, there are other factors that either cannot be explained away (like her absentee record in congress or hiring her husband for her campaign) and she has not done a good job of providing answers.
Any fact checking done on the business? Can’t find anything solid. Looks like she made some claims about healing a women’s tumour, but that’s hardly damning imo.
Looks like she made some claims about healing a women’s tumour, but that’s hardly damning imo.
If she’s not an actual MD and an Oncologist to me it is
I guess I’ve been around enough baptist-style Christians in my life that stuff like this doesn’t phase me. I don’t think she’s correct, but so long as her policy stances are based on evidence-based medicine (which it seems like they are) then I’m not concerned about personal beliefs like this. I’ve seen plenty of faith-healer grifters, Bush doesn’t fit the profile.
Given how increasingly terrible public health is, while I would’ve probably voted for her if I lived there I actually find it quite damning. The last thing the government needs is even more alternative medicine cranks, after all.
Thanks for the post comrade! Was definitely wo during about that
i hope the muslim guy wins mostly because of the meltdown libs and chuds will have
What about the fact that he wants to stop all aid to Israel?
Sure thats cool too
The [upcoming] meltdown is cool too 🤝
I dislike rooting for a proud proponent of capitalism like El-Sayed, but I do like the prospect of watching his zionist trash opponent get blown the fuck up. I’m very curious how the general will go for him if he wins the primary.
Agree, but i have never heard him punch left, so he has my respect for that (until he does, but i don’t see it happening because he is in the same boat as the DSAers, this are his electoral allies).
I don’t have many rules for these candidates and really couldn’t care less if they call themselves Socialists or not. Protect leftists from getting murdered, don’t rip into AES, and stop funding the military/be anti zionist anti imperialist . Outside of that have some progressive agenda and I’m good. They ain’t bringing in the change we want regardless. That’s on us to organize.
Wow I love how I get the Kalshi betting odds before I get actual data!
Holy shit this society is cooked.
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Misinformation is such a fuck. Apparently Stevens’ team convinced a bunch of POC that Obama endorsed her (he did not). Might be enough to get the Zionazi across the finish line. Fuck
jail for fraud pls
60 MILLION dollars didn’t work
60 fucking MILLION dollars from AIPAC.
This is crazy. In a swing state. In the rust belt. They are fucking PANICKING right now.
I wouldn’t declare victory yet - looks like it’s tightened up quite a bit.
Yeah that race was not fun to watch lol
The Cascadia flag is gonna get 5x larger if AIPAC wins this
You’re right but it’s still a pretty big gulf at the moment, and I don’t see people online saying that he needs to be any farther ahead with regards to the order of votes being counted. It did go from like 5.5 to 3.5 so far
Doubt this will happen, but a possible Abdul El-Sayed victory. Please make AIPAC start considering the democrats a lost cause for their project.
I agree. Let’s hope he doesn’t receive any major endorsements from AIPAC-friendly politicians who have a steering role in the democratic party. That could indicate this is just more Squad action.
:israel-comes-to-me:
:haley-stevens:
what the fuck are we doing people??
Hexbear thinks electoralism is cringe lol, even when it’s directly against Israeli interests ig
yeah it’s getting a bit frustrating that we can’t just apply the no secretarian rule to electoralism and anti electoralism and chill out a bit
“No sectarianism” is pretty dead tbh, but id be in favor of it on this comm at least.
We are totally aware that bourgeois electoralism is not the revolution, but id like to discuss without having to declare that at the top of every post.
Yeah my synthesis is that
- electoralism can do small but significant things
- they’ll probably just get fed up and start blasting us
- political work is seen by most people as one of only two ways to demonstrate an ability to lead a society. The other is being a capitalist.
- burning shit down is just going to make relatively comfortable people think you’re crazy and violent
- there’s value in demonstrating that you already tried the nice way. They did this in Russia for example
- if America came under the control of even a super half-ass demsoc regime, it would probably (probably) be much less willing to kill leftists in other countries than Democrats or Republicans. This can give a ton of breathing room to people worldwide
I’m with you and would add that if they start blasting us (let’s say figuratively for now, ideally not literally), then a lot of people are gonna feel cornered and jump to a revolutionary tendency.
It’s one of the contradictions of DemSoc thinking (I have multiple frames of mind and this is just one of them), but if the DemSoc movement is successful in its aims does that rule out revolutionary activity? Does an alternative path to building socialism exist that doesnt require a revolution? Idk
Part of the answer is here though:
if America came under the control of even a super half-ass demsoc regime, it would probably (probably) be much less willing to kill leftists in other countries than Democrats or Republicans. This can give a ton of breathing room to people worldwide
yeah it’s getting a bit frustrating that we can’t just apply the no secretarian rule to electoralism and anti electoralism and chill out a bit
Watching the horse race between pedophile hitler and progressive hitler is not really interesting for people that have checked out altogether.
that’s national elections. state and local dem primaries are sometimes between not hitler and neoliberal hitler
Exactly, I don’t give a shit who the president is at this point and even if AOC has a shot in 28 it will mean nothing to me
He got it! Let’s fucking go!
a little close for comfort, jeez @ 53%
A Bluesky take from earlier
I’ll be disappointed if Stevens wins, but mostly what you should take away from tonight is that the coalition really is divided between factions with lots of genuine support, we can’t wish the other side away, and we’re all going to have to learn to live with each other if we want to win.
https://bsky.app/profile/goldwagnathan.bsky.social/post/3mscrnzu2uk2i
coalition really is divided between factions with lots of genuine support,
No it’s not , shoving $50 or $60 million dollars into a campaign to defeat a primary candidate is not support. And it’s obvious it’s not support because if Stevens had won there’s no more reason for AIPAC to keep shoving money into her campaign and they wouldn’t have because it’s not in their interest since there’s no difference between her and a Republican on Israel.
Bluesky liberals are genuinely something else
lots of genuine support
On one side you have loads of actual grassroots support. On the other side you have AIPAC putting $70,000,000 into a primary.
They are the same!
fuck that, drive the moderates and the fake progressives who supported genocide from the party
preferably into the sea
Bluesky’s version of solidarity is - of course - shit but it also makes me laugh. It’s “building coalitions”. Everybody the left of Bernie has to do what the neolibs want.
Alternatively, I think we should struggle to educate them
Try to find patience and love in your heart, but never give up ground once you’re educated enough
If Abdul wins, Hakeem Jeffries is gonna come out unto the floor with a keffiyeh wrapped around his neck.
Remindme!negativetwodays
Michigan is going to be like a Peru redux, 3 weeks to get everything counted out however long it was
Edit: ignore my other post, I think the fact that only one outlet called it bodes well for this prediction
Just tuning in for elections, gotta thank god
Don’t know why, but tonight seems kinda odd
No AIPAC funded libs, Thanedar’s gone
And on Fox News, I already hear squealing hogs
wait shit hang on thanedar’s going back up in the results
Nvm Mckinney’s back up now, lyrical accuracy restored
That obvious grifting slimeball is still around?
Not anymore lmao
Oh god. I looked into this race a bit and I’m afraid to give any input
Online at least, I noticed a mix of bitter khive-types, moderate democrats and Zionists coming to stevens’ defense and smearing Abdul. Funny because I don’t see anything other than early Obama. Fucking electoralism dude
I haven’t seen anything even slightly resembling mamdani, but maybe I’m just not looking hard enough. Would happy to be proven wrong
He is not even DSA so don’t look too hard. He has $50m spent against him by AIPAC though, so definitely keep that in mind.
I like that he wants to completely end support not just of Israel but also Saudi Arabia.
one guy isn’t going to get that done but it’s nice that he says it.
Oh word that changes everything haha
Also pro-m4a (not cynically, by my judgement) and against corporate election spending. Doesn’t punch at people to his left so he’s the least-worst lib
