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Why did I read that as “what I’ve learned about grift?” Lol

No libs in here are saying that. Fellow socialists are engaging in electoral politics to reach libs that are not a part of Socialist orgs as a means to bring them in and practice their organizing skills. Other socialists in here claim engaging with electoralism in any way is how you get your Marxist card revoked. It’s silly

Bush did it first

This but it’s a Venn diagram Slaver, Colonizer, War Criminal

Boaty McBoat face

Good to hear. I’ve been trying to spread the word for a while.

absurd. Way out there. So far gone. I also try to avoid words like crazy, nuts, and insane. Replacement: That’s wild. beyond the pale. yikes. But really it’s more important to just notice and try something else that fits in that area.

Cue up Flo Rida

bourgeois democracy is where the masses currently engage in politics. Getting DSA people elected helps us with not getting thrown into camps and killed which is what the current government is doing and also helps to bring people into a funnel towards communism. The ends is not the means.

The easiest dub. DSA could win in some republican districts by being a one issue platform of anti data centers.

Growing a leftist bloc in the belly of the beast has not seen anywhere close to this much motion in my lifetime. Your job as an organizer is not to naval gaze at libs and reactionaries for liking to vote. It’s to go to where the working class is currently at and funnel them into a movement of class solidarity.

I pointed to quite a few things in this comment that it changes for organizers. If you are a socialist and don’t consider yourself an organizer, you’re a complainer on a the internet. What does that change?

Behind the scenes, the reason DSA needs the Dems is because of all the data they have on voters and the infrastructure that comes with that data. The issue is they’re not building their own infrastructure to hold onto that data. If the uniparty finds a way through laws or other means to strip DSA from using it, the electoral strategy is pretty much gone.

I’m already tired of the Ultra moniker and it’s only been like a week since they moved on from tankie. I find it really odd to be against electoralism in the Empire when that’s where the masses are. Elections have a long history and people love voting.

The reality is once your candidates win and invariably they are tied-up by the systemyou have something to point to. When they don’t follow through on their promises you can once again ask for more and point to elections are not enough. A win-win for organizers. Even Kshama’s long standing criticism of the progressive Dems can only be done because they won elections. It gives all of us a frame of reference, including those in power.

But anyways the article is mid. Kshama and those around her are awful at organizing the masses, but good at getting a select few to be devout to the Kshama banner and that’s the last thing we need. Organizers talk about the $15 min wage they did more than a decade ago (in collaboration with other orgs and unions) as their big claim. There have been no new leaders that have come from their movement and anytime a new socialist steps up outside their org in the community Kshama immediately comes out to shit on them. I really hope they go away, but I know they have the funding to continue fucking up organizing for a long time.

PSL are not Trots, Trots whole MO is to be sectarian.

I know. They were gasoline on the fire

Not to mention the numerous labor unions her org has tried to take over and force a quick strike leading to everyone getting fired. Her political instincts are awful.

They joined and then immediately alienated all the black and brown people in the org.

He got it! Let’s fucking go!

I don’t have many rules for these candidates and really couldn’t care less if they call themselves Socialists or not. Protect leftists from getting murdered, don’t rip into AES, and stop funding the military/be anti zionist anti imperialist . Outside of that have some progressive agenda and I’m good. They ain’t bringing in the change we want regardless. That’s on us to organize.