… Now correlate the people in that percentage with income levels and tell us something new…!
I would wager that most of them have very low income and very low levels of education. The mega rich are less than 1% of the population, and use their money to misinform the gullible into voting against their own interests
But wtf do the polls keep talking about “hits a new low”? It’s been inching for a year now.
That’s still 36% too many. Rapes/bombs children=> what more do you need to know?
His opponent was a woman. Of color.
/s if you need it.
Stealing taxpayer money? Eh at least a white guy does it. Doesn’t do his job and just plays golf? Eh, that’s so smart. Being a racist dictator? Good, actually. Raping children? Eh, that’s someone’s children. Bombing brown people? Good, nice. Gas prices go up? Wait a minute, now he does things that impact me directly? I’m gonna vote for him again, but boy oh boy.
36% are shitheads for supporting a pedo, rapist, felon and murderer.
He could kill supporters and they’d vote for him harder.
what do you call the handling of COVID and the “don’t mask up it’s just the flu bro” policy, if not killing his own supporters?
He already has
If you want to understand how 37% can still support Trump, all you need to do is spend a day watching Fox News. It’s completely detached from reality and in this Fantasy land they’ve imagined the president is a heroic figure and all minorities are evil extremists. The 37% get all their news straight from the propaganda machine and refuse to believe any other source is credible.
Keep in mind, Nixon had a 24% approval before resigning, this was before Fox news was even created to run propaganda for conservatives. Even without fox, roughly a quarter of the country will just never change their mind.
Fox News is interchangeable with OAN, Newsmax, Breitbart, and [insert any right-wing white supremacist fascist Nazi broligarch grifting podcaster here].
There’s an interesting and distinct difference in flavors of conspiracies supported by viewers of TV news propaganda and the people who doomscroll social media for news.
The Fox News viewers are all believe roughly the same brand of crazy. The social media users build their reality freestyle out of the craziest conspiracies imaginable.
They’re not quite interchangeable but rather are more of a scale. They start out with propaganda that’s still mostly believable but subtly wrong in various ways on Fox, but the constant hammering that they’re being lied to by <insert any non-Fox news source that’s left of Hitler> eventually drives them to checking out the crazier places like OAN, Newsmax, and Breitbart. Then the whole thing repeats but now the fact that reality doesn’t line up with the things that they’re being told convinces them that everyone is lying to them and there’re conspiracies under every rock and leaf which then drives them to the real kooks over in the podcasts, talk radio, and social media. At which point they genuinely start believing in jewish space lasers and secret pizza parlor basements where people drink the blood of children, and the transformation from mildly misinformed libertarian asshole who watches Fox News into white supremacist neo-nazi who listens to podcasts you’ve never heard of and posts racist conspiracy theories on Facebook is complete.
You know they’re nearing the end when they start complaining about how Fox News is too liberal and has been taken over by Democrats so they don’t watch it anymore. At that point they’re so far down the rabbit hole I’m not sure if anything short of professional psychological help is going to fix them. At this point I’m afraid that about a third of the US is clinically insane and I’ve really got no clue how you fix that.
I think we all kinda know that. The next question is harder: what’s the response? For the sake of discussion, let’s say Dems win the presidency and the house in 2028. What can be done to address the propaganda cult networks?
Here are some thoughts:
- Full court press on conservative news:
- Modify how the press pool operates. Like Hegseth but legal and not dumb.
- Election law violations. Directing and collusion with campaigns (think PAC vs Super PAC).
- Insider trading law violations. The market manipulation is apparent.
- FCC Fair Time rule. If they want to play that way, let’s play.
- Anti-trust. Break up Sinclair.
- Address the misinfo directly while avoiding “Ministry of Truth” vibes. Get lower ranking Dems on the news networks BUT
- Very publicly establish fair ground rules for on air discussions. Break the rules and the topic now becomes why the host is a propo shill
- Do a better job of getting lower ranking Dems together and being on the same page. GOP knows how to close ranks. We have a higher purpose.
- Put. Them. In. Jail.
- Why is this so fucking hard.
The big problem has always been the kangaroo courts. Anything Congress does, they’ll strike down in court, paralyzing the country.
Very little of those require Congressional approval.
MAGA has effectively neutered the courts. I’m not sure a marginal victory is enough to restore 3 independent branches of government. Also, most of the above list is above enforcing very simple laws and Judge Cannon can’t preside over everything.
A more controversial item was left off: once Dems get the presidency, it must be destroyed. Rein in executive power as much as possible. It’s possible that the next GOP presidency will undo this but I doubt the Dems will hold on to power for very long. There’s a lot of damage to undo and the cleanup is going to be slandered at every turn.
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Why? Monopoly on violence from their side is my guess.
Also they play nasty. Nice people don’t. I guess that’s why things turn to shit in general.
I’ve often thought about what you suggest, spending a day watching Fox News - to gain more of a wholistic perspective on what this sect of the country is digesting. It’ll be an exercise in restraint and patience for me personally, however there’s this part of me that already knows what their coverage is like and I fear it’ll be a waste of time.
I spent about a month last year completely mired in conservative streams, for the same reason mentioned above. It was fucking awful and toxic, and it was also very informative with respect to how these people view this country. To consider any of their ideology one needs to suspend reality and most if not everything learned about history and government. I’ve never seen or felt so much fear, anger, and hatred as I did during this time. (From them and within myself)
Essentially I feel I went into it backwards, I should have watched Fox News first and then went into the conservative streams (cause and effect). But to see the end result, how this stuff actually effects people, it was an eye opener that left me with little faith and even less trust in the naivety I once held - that these people are victims of manipulation and propaganda and simply need to educate themselves about the world in order to see it for what it is. Never again. This is a choice, and what is unfolding before us is only the beginning.
I sent a full copy of the project 2025 document to a coworker because they refused to believe what I was saying was inside it. I was like read for yourself. Nope, they still trust republicans and refuse to believe.
I’m not confused by them, just disgusted.
There is also a huge mostly ignored, Fascist Network in “religious” programming.
Try watching the 700 Club or anything on the Trinity Broadcasting Network. Straight up White Nationalist Nazi propaganda running 24/7 completely unchallenged (likely tax free as well).
Why would I be wondering how 37% can support him, when it says 36%? 6 and 7 don’t even look similar.
Well fuck me for having fat fingers on my tiny keyboard right?
Yes!Right in the face, yes. You bastard.
Gotta round up /s
In a sane county it’d be 3-6%
I I mean if you subtract the 20 to 30% that vote Republican no matter what you’re basically there.
But another 20% will still vote for the next Republican who is not Trump. Even though the systemic Republican incompetence that led Bush II into the Iraq War is exactly the same systemic Republican incompetence that led Trump into Iran War.
MAGA is just conservatism distilled down to its purest form.
And that’s based mostly on a rural urban divide, where republicans in rural areas act like an outsider from the city.
Yea. I get that rural and urban areas have different issues and vote for candidates they hope will represent them best.
The issue is that no candidate truly represents their constituents any more because they are funded by corporations whose agendas are directly opposed to both rural and urban citizens.
Politicians campaign on empty promises and fool voters into electing them on false promises and policies and immediately pass laws that favor their financial donors instead.
The famous “Crazification Factor.”
Sample sizes can fuck anything up, you see if they included me the sheer gravity of my distaste for that man would wreck the scale.
Ah, good ol’ Righteous Fury Georg.
rape children…steal billions…meh.
$5 gas …IMPEACH!
Wow, a whole 1% lower than the previous ‘new low’ months ago? Amazing.
Yeah countrys still fucked if even 10% support a child raping fraudster for president
More than 10% of every population does stuff like that
Where did you get that?
Look at any survey/poll/study on any topic. About 30% of people support whatever the bad option is. The subject matter doesn’t impact that result significantly.
What??
The intelligence of 20% of the population is in this part of the bell curve:
That ‘30%’ number seems like desperate coping pulled out of someone’s ass. The more accurate number is about 4% of people that are eager to reply with random bullshit. The remaining 32% of this rating are entirely your neighbours and relatives supporting the idiot fascist child rapist for president.
The remaining 32% of this rating are entirely your neighbours and relatives supporting the idiot fascist child rapist for president.
Really supports the argument that no matter how terrible something is, 32% of people will support it.
32% percent of USians, more like.
I’m also curious where you got that number. It would be kinda crazy if 10% of the world were pedos… that’s 800 million people…
First, I didn’t say they were pedophiles. I said more than 10% support a pedophile.
Second, depending on how you define what it means to be a pedophile you could very easily end up with more than 10% of the population falling into that category.
It’s sad there were people who only voted for Trump for their own gains and now because of it their entire country will fall to pieces.
I’m convinced that ~30-35% of all living beings are complete and utter psychopaths, who are incapable of caring about anything that doesn’t affect them on a personal basis. Literally a third of all people going about their lives with no empathy whatsoever. I wonder what the evolutionary purpose for this is…
Probably those without emotions can take riskier and more damming roles of society and real the benefits while indirectly killing everyone else ask the way up the ladder and reproduce with several failed marriages. It’s like an asshole run and dump rogue like for them and they just love seeing the funny number ($) go up
1/3rd of USAmericans are irredeemable.
Kick 'em out.
Just, uhh… don’t send them to any of us. Maybe find a nice patch in the Pacific with 360 ocean views. Tell them it’s got lots of space, no neighbours, and is tropical. All free, but BYO boats.
I’m pretty sure we’ve already designated Australia as the place to send our undesirables. No take backs
We only take undesirables from England, find your own deathtrap colony.
Florida here in the U.S.
Kick 'em out.
Just, uhh… don’t send them to any of us. Maybe find a nice patch in the Pacific with 360 ocean views. Tell them it’s got lots of space, no neighbours, and is tropical. All free, but BYO boats.
Sounds like a Final Solution right out of the Nazi playbook.
If you think this is a good idea then
maybeyou need to read a bit more history books and a bit less social media.Damn! Twarted once again…
Not accurate, hands too big
Fact Check: TRUE
How can it still be so high at this point?
It’s the same reason Trump got elected in the first place. These people absolutely don’t care about doing the right thing. They either do exactly as they’re told, or they are simply obsessed with winning. As long as their guy wins, they don’t care what he does.
It’s insane.
Because the only media they consume is Fox News or something even further right. Just spend an hour watching it and you’ll understand why they live in a fantasy land.
Religion.
Christian death cult wishing for the end of times so Jesus comes back.
I once heard it put this way. About a third of Americans will vote Republican, no matter what. About a third of Americans will vote Democratic, no matter what. What the last third does determines what happens.
Not specific to Trump or his approval rating, but I think that the general principle applies.
Like it’s their identity.
To them it’s all about teams.
They root for the home team cause they believe it’s about identity instead of ideas.
The cold hard truth is that they want white nationalism at all costs
The reason that a lot of places are not doing this kind of polling is because these are done by polling land line phone numbers (if you call cell numbers you could get people anywhere in the world, if you call US landline numbers you get people who live in the US).
This method used to be perfectly okay when everyone had telephone service that comes through a wire, now that isn’t the case. Because of this, there is inherent selection bias towards the kinds of people who would have land line phones (older people).
This poll is done online based on selection by address, and they’ll even hand out a tablet if the person at the address doesn’t have internet access. There are undoubtedly still old school polls doing landline cold-calls, but I think they’re growing rarer, and frankly at this point they’re Karoline Leavitt’s favorite ones.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/how-are-reutersipsos-us-public-opinion-polls-conducted-2024-05-09/
36% is all the Democrats and that bunch of Republicans that are fine with mass murder, genocide, rape, child rape, extrajudicial actions, work camps, fraud and abuse, and so much more, but draw a line with high gas prices.
35% of that is Maga. That extra one percent is more troubling. Anyone not already part of the Trump cult should be against this by now
