• BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Anyone normal: the guy with the giant totenkopf tattoo is sus

    Jacobin “leftist”: "okay so he’s a nazi, but this is how we will get Medicare4All!!! Don’t you get it! We NEED him to build socialism (through reform, obviously)!!!

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    I like when they go, ‘nobody has seen this weird obscure nazi symbol’ and it’s on the hat David Mitchell has in the ‘Are we the baddies?’ sketch which everyone has at least seen a still image of

  • The dude also signed up for multiple tours in Iraq and worked for Blackwater. So even if you are right that he was totally clueless about a major Nazi symbol being tattooed to his chest, your defense does just boil down to him being more into the fourth Reich than the third Reich.

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    I’m willing to believe that he’s not a nazi, but only if they submit that he is consequently a huge fucking dipshit, something I consider equally unqualifying for holding public office.

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      Even if we believe he didn’t actually know what his Totenkopf tattoo was in 2007 and nobody told him - it’s a 100% certainty that in 2009 he did know. He couldn’t reup in the Marines because of it.

      Let’s talk about Graham Platner’s Big Lie, finally. In 2009, at the height of the Gulf War, the Marines barred him from active duty. Platner claims it was his forearm tattoos. But his one forbidden tattoo was the Nazi symbol on his chest. He knew - and he left the Marines rather than give it up. 1/

      https://bsky.app/profile/capitolhunters.bsky.social/post/3mgfjffz7os2a

      Google docs info

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      i believe he is a nazi (cause he is a warcriminal), but he didn’t know what tattoo meant (cause he is a dum-dum).

      i also don’t understand why on earth are socdems attaching to him in remora-like fashion, why would you want your voice of opposition to entity be nazi tattoo-ed blackwater mercenary. even if he wins, it wouldn’t be good

      (also among 40 replies only 1 mentions his military warcriminality, and these are the people self-selecting as reading ben burger, the voice of fedcobin)

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        i also don’t understand why on earth are socdems attaching to him in remora-like fashion

        it’s very simple: socdems consider fascism to be more acceptable than any revolutionary socialist movement. it’s a natural conclusion once you start thinking that if you reform capitalism slowly enough, the capitalists won’t realize what’s going on and you’ll be able to sneak socialism in, despite overwhelming evidence that this is not the case.

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          no, but i mean in real sense, they are always thrown out (see aocia staffers, bernie campaigners) for the dem bureaucrats, it’s not even jobs program, it’s just pining your hopes on something rising and thinking “this is me, i’m doing it” instead of building/sabotaging stuff in the real world.

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            The bourgeoisie needs hirelings who enjoy the trust of a section of the working class, whitewash and prettify the bourgeoisie with talk about the reformist path being possible, throw dust in the eyes of the people by such talk, and divert the people from revolution by giving glowing descriptions of the charms and possibilities of the reformist path.

            Vladimir Lenin, The Tasks of The Third International, 1919

            same as it ever was. we have to take the failures and shortcomings of these reforms to push people towards a more revolutionary perspective.

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    It feels like a layer of insincerity how people sometimes name antisemitism as a necessary component of being a fascist. I don’t think I’ve seen it so much before the Oct 7 genocide began.

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    Okay, he’s not a nazi. He just displayed the mental acuity to walk around for years with a Nazi tattoo without checking to see what the hell it meant, nice qualification for a senator.

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    Is it that hard for electoralists to find someone who didn’t have a giant totenkopf on their chest to rally around? Its a totally unforced L to go out on a limb for this guy, but these Jacobin types really want to die on this hill lol

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    I don’t know why people give a fuck about platner when despite all his shit the median democrat with a nice smile and suit is two thousand percent more evil than him. the totenkopf is just tattooed right on their heart where it can’t be seen.

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      Those people aren’t being framed as socialists. The problem with Platner is now people are rallying around a guy with a Nazi tattoo who loves the military and saying “this is how we build socialism.” So it seems important for US leftists to say “hey, no, that ain’t it”

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          for people to vote for, I don’t think we should be waiting for anyone. I think we should be explaining to people that building socialism is something we do now outside of bourgeois politics, in a way that is inherently antagonistic to bourgeois politics