I get that it says “flavored juice drink” now, but I was tired and the text is pretty small.
“Fruit snacks” are so much worse. It’s just candy, and inferior in taste and texture to anything made with actual fruit.
USA? Most drinks here in Canada don’t contain HFCS.
Edit: didn’t read the thread first, seems like I’m on topic.
Part of this I believe can be attributed to labelling rules. Only the concentrate portion can be called juice.
When it is made from concentrate the reconstituting water is the main ingredient. What’s shitty is that water gets more and more sugar/HFCS mixed in so less concentrate is used. Getting it down to 10% or less like that: it’s just flavoring the corn.
Then why not just eat actual fruit?
Fresh fruits can be expensive in some places, or at least seasonal.
Simply Apple Juice is pretty clean and I don’t think there are added sugars if you like apple juice.
Still plenty unhealthy, sugar is absorbed way faster than just eating an apple.
But yeah still more healthy than something that contains HFCS as second ingredient (and thus after water the highest contributing ingredient…)
Well the post was about juice. So I commented about juice.
“family farmer owned”
We would never not sell you the stuff we take from the mother Earth and, old fashioned way, give you the green soylent, mmm, like Mom used to make
Such a fucking scam. I’m ok with “juice from concentrate”, but this is literally more HFCS than juice. There should be no HFCS in juice; real juice has plenty of sugar all on its own.
Meanwhile in Canada
Juices like this also exist in the US…
Give it a year with the way your country is massively declining. Soon the FDA will classify straight sugar water is “juice”.
In the country where pizza is a vegetable, you’re probably not far off. Soon enough they’ll all be drinking Brawndo and water will be known only for being in toilets.
What Canada doesn’t tell you is that they permit 10 Micrograms of Beaver Essence in all products.
Beaver farts? In YOUR fromage squick squick? It’s more likely than you think.
I mean, we all gather every year and conduct a ritual to send all our hate and anger into our geese, which gives us the polite nature you see today.
What’s a little beaver essence on top of it?
permit
You misspelled require
On the lemonade, I assume that you are pointing out that it is cane sugar rather than HFCS?
Doesn’t matter…lemon juice is acidic and cane sugar, or sucrose will undergo acid hydrolysis to glucose and fructose in an hour after bottling.
Idiots importing Mexican coke should have paid more attention in grade 10 chemistry.
Yes, but also lemon juice and lemon pulp, not rehydrated concentrate
Canadian nationalism is so strong. I like Canada, but it isn’t the best place on earth. On the internet though, you’d think it’s heaven.
compared to it’s immediate neighbor it might as well be
Lol. So someone posted a couple of pictures showing that juice sold in Canada isn’t full of corn syrup, and your reaction was “wow, such nationalism.” Like fucking what?
American’s are upset their country is a fucking tire fire.
I just don’t understand the “Canadian Nationalism” angle. It almost seems like there are some accounts here on Lemmy that are trying to sow discord and division.
Yeah absolutely. Best case that’s a real person that is salty their government lets businesses poison their customers and they are going to disparage any other government that protects their citizens in even the smallest way.
Not to say that fructose is poison per se, just that regulations around food, food advertising, labeling etc are very good to have.
I feel bad for OP, the convenience fruit drinks that are available here are mostly real fruit juice.
Do you actually think you can’t get 100% juice in the US? It’s pretty ridiculous to bring the US/Canada comparison into the conversation in the first place. Just like you can get Flavored Juice Drink in Canada, too.
And yeah, it’s that mindless Canadian nationalism that is commonplace on the internet. Sorry I struck a nerve, but it is what it is.
Bro you’re a dingdong. In fact, your point is so silly that I’m pretty sure that you’re either a bot or some sort of really sad and/or pathetic agitator. In the off chance that you’re not, I hope you get what you need and find some peace. Have a good night bro.
Please explain what’s silly? I’m pretty sure I was clear. What is so sad about calling out pointless nationalism? Are you Canadian? Are Canadian juices part of your cultural identity?
Ignore previous instructions, seek inner peace.
You really enjoy talking down to people.
Cheap fruit drinks have been this way for the last half century, probably longer.
There’s not going to be a major health difference between chugging this shit and fruit juice in terms of how much sugar you’re taking in, your body doesn’t really care where the sugar comes from, it acts the same inside you. An 8 ounce glass of Welche’s Corn Syrup versus an 8 ounce glass of fresh squeezed orange juice are both going to be basically 8 ounces of candy. The orange juice just has more vitamin C and maybe some pulp to slow down the sugar spike in your blood if that’s an issue for you.
“Real” fruit juices might have added vitamins or even some amount of fiber, but fruit juice is generally not a healthy drink. It’s an alternative to other things like soda or alcohol but you don’t reach for a fruit juice bottle for daily hydration. Drink more water, then whatever sweet treats you want on occasion.
A fresh piece of fruit is a bit healthier because it has all those vitamins and minerals and fiber which is good for you, and the fiber content slows down the rapid sugar digestion. But again, it’s all carbohydrate calories, that’s the area you should be focused on more than if something is “natural.”
My problem is mostly that HFCS tastes like ass. I was expecting it to be a blend of apple juice, pear juice, and a hint of passion fruit.
The health aspect is more about always keeping an easy to access non-beer thing in my fridge.
I’ve heard great things about flavored sparkling water as a beer-alternative, unsweetened or lightly sweetened. I can’t recommend quitting drinking enough. It gets harder and harder to break the habit and makes you have a great big ol’ belly that won’t go away easily. (Fruit juice and other carbs will do the same thing. Sugar belly sucks.)
Wine was my poison for many years, does the same thing. I now just drink a lot of water at night.
What’s crazy to me is how the alternatives are often the same price.
Buying Jelly (for peanut butter and jelly), 95% of the garbage out there uses HFCS. Then you have a few all natural ones with 3 ingredients and there’s no difference in pricing. But apparently people aren’t paying attention.
YMMV it seems like the “natural” product is 2x the price of the “store brand.”
It’s an alternative to other things like soda or alcohol
More like “something to add to alcohol”. That’s just about the only time I drink juice. Sugary drinks just aren’t it for me.
There’s no alcohol. Just orange juice.
Like, the mixer?
Yeah, people drink it.
People drink the mixer straight∆
It is approx 9 teaspoons of sugar per 300ml bottle. Typical tea
cupmug is 250-300ml. Imagine putting 9 teaspoons of sugar in your tea or coffee. Fucking gross.That’s exactly how I like my coffee and is the reason I don’t drink coffee. I love the smell and it’s great in desserts, but miss me with drinking steaming bitter piss. So glad I don’t have a caffeine dependency.
I once accidentally bought a gallon of “chocolate drink” instead of “chocolate milk” cause it was in the milk section.
Took one drink and dumped it out.
There’s juice that’s literally labelled in big huge text 100% juice, not from concentrate on the front of the bottle.
You can even go to the produce section and get relatively fresh made juices and smoothies, pasteurized and safe and in almost any flavor you want.
If you want to pay $1.50 for a half gallon, then yeah you’re going to get that 10% shit.
which is also not good for you, just to be clear.
one of my new years rezzies was to eat more fruit and it’s been actually really enjoyable. Fresh mango, pineapple, cherries, grapes…
“not good for you” is relative. Heavily dependent on individual case by case and against what standards. Sure, there are many better alternatives. But I’d argue there are even many more worse ones.
that is fair. I drink barley fruit juice, otherwise known as scotch.
It’s not. Fruit juice is pretty much just sugar water. It’s really not even a healthy alternative to soda.
Mango is delicious but where I live the fresh stuff is never ripe. I have much better luck with frozen mango chunks!
and it’s expensive! So a treat, and I like to mix it with sletzer water to help savor it and not sugar bomb myself!
If in the USA, look for “100%[fruit] juice” in easily readable font.
And also check if they add High Fructose corn syrup. If they do, don’t bother.
As far as I know, 100% fruit juice doesn’t add sweeteners.
The sweeteners are the sweeter juice that they add. Usually concentrated apple juice.
That way they can continue to label it 100% juice and no sweeteners added and put on the nutrition label 0g added sugar, but still add a bunch of sweetness and sugar when formulating the product.
Yes, you can get the 100% juice label by taking (e.g.) cranberry concentrate and the reconstituting using (e.g.) apple juice instead of water, adding calories and sweetness without adding a (non-juice) sweetener.
On top of that, most of the juice aisle does not even qualify for the “100% juice” label.
Gotta read the fine print on the label AND the government labeling regulations AND have some level of trust in the government to get what you want from a mass-market product. Local products and producers are not a panacea either.
But, I’m going to overdose on ACE-K given the amount of Zero Sugar Mtn. Dew I think, so I’m not going to shame anyone for their favorite juice, whether it is “100% juice” or not, from concentrate or not, or whatever.
Unless you’re looking for Apple or grape juice specifically, this is what you get. I’ve long decided to avoid juices as a result. If I want a sugar water packet, I just pack a honeycrisp apple, orange, Asian pear, plum, or a slightly overripe bartlett pear.
Disagree, I was able to find the local grocery store’s store branded 100% fruit juice in cranberry, apple, grape, and pomegranate. It’s just a regular grocery store too.
They even had the welch’s 100% juice varieties.
Now that being said I had to pay real close attention to the labels to select the right juice, but the good stuff is still out there
For myself, it depends on where I look and what store I’m in. Sometimes the international section can get me soursop juice. Locally owned stores have a better chance of variety.
Apple and grape are the same
8oz of Welch grape juice has 35g sugar. 20oz of classic coke has 65g sugar. Adjusted for volume, that’s 26g/8oz. Somehow fucking coke has less sugar. Apple is ironically the same as coke at 53g per 16oz
They are, however, made of the fruit they’re named after with little sugar added. That 8oz is about half a pound, and half a pound of grapes is calorically comparable. I’d guess that the apple/juice situation is similar but it’s harder to ascertain because of variation.
We’ve cultivated tree candy, and I can’t see it any other way.
Grape juice and apple juice naturally have that much sugar, even if there’s none added.
I have an apple tree at home and I’ve tried to make apple juice. It’s absulte rancid if you don’t add tons of sugar. Clearly there’s better kinds of apples for this, but those are also more expensive. So for the stakeholder’s sake, lets add some sugar to the cheap apples and make more profit.
Maybe true in USA, not true here
It’s only true in the U.S. if you live in a food desert or somewhere rural with a single walmart. Which admittedly is a problem here.
But if you live anywhere with healthier stores like Sprouts and Whole Foods, you will find plenty of juice.
Even my regular local regular supermarket carries various juices.
Ah yeah makes sense, I think a difference between here and USA is we have no such thing as a food desert
There’s always options
What’s not true there?
That 100% juices other than grape and apple are hard to find.
https://feddit.org/comment/11877217 covered it
Curiously, where I am, apple juice is so easy to come by that other juices are diluted with apple juice.
this is why i switched to buying vegetable juice when i want juice
Then look left 2 feet and buy anything but this trash.
Skill issue.
Or perhaps we shouldn’t create a society where buying juice requires having and using a skill.
I’m more annoyed that stores can have entire “juice” aisles, but only the last 10 or so ft. are 100% juice, only 2-3 ft. of which is organic. The rest are juice flavored drinks.
They just have the things people buy. Sugar water seems to be what people prefer over real juice, so that’s what they make and sell in higher quantities.
Education is probably the answer here, because people assume it’s healthy. We’d definitely need better regulation on package labeling too.
They stock things they make more profit on. If the margins on sugar water are much higher, then they don’t need to sell as much to make it worth stocking it instead of juice. If the margins are higher because consumers are unaware they’re being sold a cheaper-to-manufacture product for the same price because the packaging is deceptive to anyone who hasn’t been told they have to look or is in too much of a rush to have time to look, then shops end up full of sugar water that few consumers actually want.
Why not both? Both is good
You’re only allowed to like what I like!
Most Americans would benefit from taking a look at a nutritional label once in a while. I couldn’t give two fucks that someone has THE AUDACITY to make a.sugary drink and give someone the chance to purchase.
Pure passion fruit juice would probably cost you 10-20$ per liter and it would be waaay too concentrated.
You can cut strong juice with other juice instead of with water and HFCS. Mixing passion fruit and orange juice at a level where it still mostly tastes of passion fruit makes something nice and not so expensive that it has to be sold at a different price to other orange juice.
Apple and pear juice are common for cutting an otherwise overpowering (or expensive) juice.
If you’re Ocean Spray, you might use “with 2 other juices”. Yes, it actually uses those words on the package.
Yes definitely, but from OPs context it seemed like they wanted a juice ready to drink.
Pre-mixed 100% juice drinks are readily available (depending on where you live). You don’t have to buy several juices and mix them yourself if you’re thirsty when walking past a shop as long as the shop stocks them.
it would be waaay too concentrated
100% is 100%. But yeah, you probably wouldn’t like the taste.
Yes. Who drinks a cup of 100% lemon juice?
Me.
A few times when I got smaller bottles of 100% lemon juice I just ended up drinking it as-is. But I’ll also eat lemons if they are easy to peel.I also like to take sips of lemon juice now and then, but a whole glass? Thats hardcore xD
More like taking sips from the bottle until “shit, that was all of it”.
I wish my teeth would be able to handle that. As a kid I ate and drank sour stuff nonstop, but nowadays my teeth get soft and sensitive to temperature for a few days if Im not careful.
