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When you play either of these videos it’s just a AI voice talking over someone just clicking around. The scripts are also so similar.
The internet is dying.
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It doesn’t matter what topic you search… that’s all YouTube recommendations are anymore.
YouTube is still decent if you can ignore their recommendations. I use other apps (Pipepipe, Grayjay) and my feed is just the creators I want. No ads, no slop, no nonsense. It’s like YouTube was 20 years ago.
Yep I use that too,back to the good old days! Internet was so good then.
Ublock huge blocklist, private DNS, and VPN are essential to me using the internet today.
Hard to believe not everyone on the internet does this. Its like they enjoy slop. Then again people still use x so…there’s not really hope for humanity lol
At that point why not just use something like nebula?
Shoutout to blocktube: https://github.com/amitbl/blocktube
Usually, the same “few” slop channels dominate a specific topic, so add them to a blocklist and the filtering gets reasonably good.
It’s absolutely insane that YouTube doesn’t allow this as a native feature.
YouTube is like Imgur, it’s a media dump. Most of it is trash. If you’re going to YouTube from any place other than a community link recommendations or to your known curated channels; then it is no surprise that you come across shit 90% of the time.
The fact that their search function fails to find relevant guides or tutorials is a real loss, but they’ve opted to enshittify.
An advertisement company built off the work of a search engine can’t get search right on arguably their biggest app. Baffling.
They’re search has been shit for a long time. It has helped other search engines though. My brothers resisted leaving Google because they found the search quality was best. Now it’s shit enough for them to consider that DDG does just as good a job.
Allowing their search and video platform to get flooded by AI is insane, but they’re fully committed because they’re chasing their own AI agenda so they can’t really stand against AI. Amazon has done the same by allowing their platform to be flooded with cheap, useless, generic products and fake reviews. The real baffling thing is why people still keep using (and even worshipping) these asshole companies.
You have a misunderstanding of what “get search right” means. For Google’s profits, the search is exactly the way they want it to be. They don’t give a shit whether it’s actually useful to you or not.
Honestly, seeing a stock photo guy or woman in a thumbnail nowadays screams AI-generated content. I stay away from those at all costs to prevent YouTube deciding to recommend me more
I mean, a lot of the real YouTubers don’t look much different from a stock photo…
Imho, the rolling VS point release, desktop environement and X11/Wayland has much more impact than “the distro” choice
Stick with a more popular and try different desktop environnements
YouTube going down the crapper at record pace.
There are plenty of quality channels out there. Maybe it takes a bit longer to find them but it’s possible.
Any you can recommend to help me with my comparison?
Explaining Computers and The Linux Experiment are among my favourites.
I was going to recomend Explaining Computers. Been watching him for years. Also, for more linux stuff, @LearnLinuxTV is another good channel.
Subscribed thanks
“ITSFOSS” is nice for beginners to Linux
TheBlackDon, laustoic, breadonpenguins, or if you REALLY want a good breakdown between distros I highly recommend SuperUser Tech. He pretty much goes through a lot of distros from the perspective of someone new to Linux and his videos are very thorough.
TonyBTW is great when you’re looking to setup whatever distro you pick. he’s pretty much done them all. Veronica Explains is also good for other various Linux stuff and setups. and if you ever go down the path of NixOS then Vimjoyer is a must subscribe to learn that distro.
I’ll check it out thanks
I want to believe that using invidious-based frontends tend to circumvent the perfidious google method to position first those that pay for positioning.
There are ublock lists which block lots of ai content from loading,maybe look into that
Soon we’ll need uAllow, only open what is on safe lists
That’s pretty much NoScript or uBlock’s “hard mode.”
I prefer “medium mode”, but ublock hides it behind a few somewhat cryptic steps:
https://github.com/gorhill/ublock/wiki/Blocking-mode:-medium-mode
don’t think there’s any public list of AI slop youtube channels, or that kinda crowd sourced youtube channel blocklist system. the ublock lists usually block a specific website.
You’re right, I looked into a few lists and they were mostly for domains and search results.
I only mentioned it because I remembered seeing them, but didn’t look at them more closely until now.
“That’s crazy man.”
Use a NO AI browser,
We’re they wrong?
I couldn’t care less if not. Low cost accurate documentation sounds fantastic.
How do you know it’s accurate? Have you verified it?
Nope. How do you know someone not using AI for voice overs is accurate. What’s the difference?
The difference is the amount of effort expended on the video. If you actually make the video yourself, you want a good return on your time. That means - usually - that you don’t want the majority of your comments to be about how your facts are wrong, because you want people to come back and watch more of your videos.
AI channels, on the other hand, don’t care at all. They don’t need subscribers. They don’t need likes. They’re just putting out high volumes of crap content with clickbait titles to get whatever scraps they can sucker out of people. They know they won’t ever get recurring visitors, so they don’t need to fact-check anything. And AI has made it so that they can churn out this content ridiculously fast and make it nearly indistinguishable from quality content at first glance, at minimal cost.
If it takes you hours to make your video, I’m more likely to want to hear what you’re saying. AI videos are an attack against our attention; it takes less effort to make than it does to consume, now, and the quality of the content reflects that.
The person behind a slop channel will have a tendency to not verify their facts or have updated information on the topic in the first place thus more likely of having misguided information. And not to speak how an LLM spits out very generic shit even if you prompt it to go in depth.
For a real channel, I can hold the person accountable and responsible for spreading misinformation or help them expand their knowledge. The creator, using that feedback, can make corrections and improve their fact checking and quality control over their content. How do you hold a slop channel accountable whose sole purpose is to generate videos for ad revenue in the short term? That slop channel will not even respond to the comments.
The person behind a slop channel will have a tendency to not verify their facts or have updated information
Horse shit. There is garbage both human and LLM generated. You don’t have any data on this. Pirr unadulterated prejudice…
For a real channel, I can hold the person accountable and responsible for spreading misinformation or help them expand their knowledge
No you can’t. You can block them and move on. Or report them. Same options.
How do you hold a slop channel accountable whose sole purpose is to generate videos for ad revenue in the short term? That slop channel will not even respond to the comments.
You believe comments had any effect on a creator just out for a cash grab?
You’ve laid out entirely a one sided weak argument ignoring the enablement. God forbid someone who knows Linux but doesn’t have video production skills or a shitty voice generate audio based on a script.
Cash grab creators are cash grab creators. Shit will be shit. I would argue that AI makes it a considerable order of magnitude easier to churn out garbage, which makes it a matter of scale.
It’s like fake nudes. Back in the days of film photography you could still make fake nudes by physically cutting anf pasting images together. It was considerably more work and low quality. Now you can generate much higher quality fake nudes far far faster, even faking different angles and facial expressions from the input.
That inarguably changes things.
God forbid someone who knows Linux but doesn’t have video production skills or a shitty voice generate audio based on a script.
There are tons of alternative options besides using AI to generate voiceover. There’s the tried and true “put text on the screen”, even just by typing shit in a note taking program as you record.
There’s no need to make a video at all if you don’t have the skills/resources. People can make blog posts, websites, posts on forums or sites like this very one where they just type out the text and include screenshots or short video clips where necessary.
And there are plenty of people with negative levels of video production skills and bad voices still fucking doing it anyway.
There is no situation where using AI voice is actually necessary to get the information out.
The point of these LLM videos isn’t to provide information, but to farm clicks. They’re full of completely made up nonsense mixed with info copied and reworded from real sources.
As an example, when I search for info about the Canon R7 Mark II (a rumored upcoming camera), they seem to paraphrase Canonrumors articles, but the image “slideshow” makes no sense, and they add in all sorts of straight up impossible assertions and specs. But the uploader doesn’t care because they’ve uploaded thousands of these, and a few might make them some nickels.
