• happybadger [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    I like how comically large it is. Usually I have to zoom in and scan the image for all of the Nazi symbols on the Ukrainian soldier. He chose the Graham Platner Spooky Skull that’s half the size of his face.

    RIPpin’ a vape because u died or watever

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    Jesus. I will always remember some freak on Reddit telling me, “um ackshually Ukrainians only wear that stuff to scare Russians” and like… Yeah Nazis wear Nazi shit to intimidate my dude. Got downvoted for pointing it out…

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      only wear that stuff to scare Russians

      Liberals love to use this as an excuse. I don’t buy it. Russians are just as upset with their government as any other group of people, including not wanting to fight in wars. But they see Ukrainians decked out in nazi paraphernalia? People will volunteer to fight for free. It has got to be a major boost to their morale getting to kill fascists. No Russian has seen a black sun and shit themselves over it this entire war. They’re probably thinking “How nice of them to paint a target on themselves.”

      Ironically being a nazi is still being a nazi. I think these fuckwads know damn well there’s nazis in the Ukrainian military. They just agree with fascism and hate Russians more than they hate Germans (who are proud Aryans hold “western values”).

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        I don’t even see how it IS an excuse. As I say, wearing Nazi paraphernalia in the hopes it will intimidate or upset people is literally just what a Nazi would do.

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        The Nazis expressed a desire to wipe out the Slavs, executing most of them directly and working the remainder to death as slaves. They also acted on that desire and were notorious cruel. Openly wearing Nazi paraphernalia is a threat, even if their loss of WWII makes it a fairly empty one.

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    Honestly, do people not know the totenkopf and black sun etc.? I mean the people who post these sympathy posts. Are they doing it on purpose? Please explain.

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      Of course it’s on purpose, that’s what the foundation of our lives is built upon. For us to trigger each other in emotional warfare, while they squeeze us like an orange.

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        The propaganda is doing all the heavy lifting. From an article from 2023:

        Nazi Symbols on Ukraine’s Front Lines Highlight Thorny Issues of History

        Troops’ use of patches bearing Nazi emblems risks fueling Russian propaganda and spreading imagery that the West has spent a half-century trying to eliminate.

        Like wow this is such a fringe issue that we can’t take a single photo of the troops without capturing at least one Nazi symbol. They even say straight up that the West is just trying to eliminate Nazi imagery, not Nazis themselves.

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      It’s a combination of the two. But seems like most trying to just whitewash the images.

      Like with plattner going well it’s just a skull and army said it was okay so why are people upset a democrat candidate has a literal SS image on their body

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      wait that’s the skull on their hats!? Til

      People when plattners tattoo was shown.

      Did they just whitewash the nazi imagery enough by focusing it all on the swatiska after the war or just a sign of how little people know history. Wait its both

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        My history classes in high school basically stopped/ran out of time by the time we got to WW2, so all we got was the broadest, most simple overview. From what I’ve read, that seems to be a relatively common experience in the States, so WW2 knowledge ends up being filled in by pop culture, which tends to just use the swastika and also basically never mentions the Soviets, outside of the absurdly slanderous Enemy at the Gates, which is treated like a documentary by many US Americans.

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          McGraw Hill wrote every textbook in my public school. Imagine that, a private company being able to control the narrative. We never learned about the soviet role in WW2 unless it was about the “endless hordes”.

          America was painted in the light of being europe’s saviors against hitler, no mention of the fact that IBM pretty much orchestrated the holocaust. We also read plenty of books related to the holocaust, independent authors this time at least, but it was always about Jewish victims. Never a mention for any other victims, it wasn’t until I was in college that I was told they targeted Romani’s first, and it was mentioned off-hand since they did it to “clean the streets” before the Olympics (gee, I wonder what the California governor is doing right now?).

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          And I guess game makers stopped doing everything set in WW2 so don’t get the images from that.