• Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    No one gives a fuck whether it is legally stolen or not. The point is that it’s clearly fucking stolen in principal and morality. Of course the thieves wrote the law in a way that favours themselves? What a stupid fucking article. Literally nobody is claiming that it is stolen by the legal definition because everyone acknowledges that the law was written by the thieves.

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      It’s also cherry picking instances of “legal” acquisition (Manhattan “sold” for fucking beads), while flat out ignoring all the treaties that have been and still are violated.

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        Even by that “legal” standard, isn’t a contract signed under duress invalid? One side has guns and regularly took land by force and murder.

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          Yes lol

          Native Americans weren’t stupid. They were forced into bad treaties at literal gunpoint. They knew the island of Manhattan was more valuable than what they were getting in return. But it was either take a shitty deal or get genocided.

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      its also rich that the argument here essentially is “well the stolen property was laundered through enough hands that we certainly cant call it stolen anymore” which is something dick epstein and max rascal or whatever the fuck their names are would never agree with if the property were some jewelry stolen by a black man

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    I had a look at his Wikipedia page. These fuckers…

    [He] identified himself as being a “libertarian hawk”. […] Epstein has defended Israel’s policies vis-à-vis Palestinians, calling allegations of apartheid a canard. In January 2025, Epstein argued against birthright citizenship in the United States, a right enshrined in the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution.

    And the fuckers are super-wrong but it never matters because capital loves them. Emphasis mine. 500!

    In March and April 2020, Epstein wrote several essays published by the Hoover Institution giving a contrarian account of the COVID-19 pandemic and warning against extensive containment and mitigative United States responses to the COVID-19 pandemic, which he called an “overreaction”. In a piece published on March 16, he argued that the word “pandemic” is not to be used lightly and that the virus should be allowed to run its course, predicting there would be 500 U.S. deaths

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    Thankfully statements of apology, however sincere, don’t transfer title backward to the original owners, for if they did, civilization would collapse.

    Please oh please 🙏