cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/10508286
(Stats that show boosting ICE funding is a bipartisan policy)
Maybe I’m just mostly in lefty circles, but who the fuck wasn’t mad until Renee Goode and Alex Pretti? I’ve been seeing constant rage against ice for a couple of years now atleast.
No, you’re right, plenty were mad before too. There seems to be a new push lately on trying to make this a race issue to divide the left. I’ve seen a major uptick in this framing lately.
I always held that the creation of the entire DHS was a slight overreaction to like 20 guys armed with box cutters…
It really was muddled through while Iraq was being drummed up, too. I remember working a protest in 2003 and there being this talk about DHS implementing fascism. At the time I felt the impending war was more important topic, not quite realizing how interconnected it all was.
Whats that story about?
9/11
At least we took care of that rogue kingdom 17 of the highjackers came from who planned and funded the whole thing.
Who cares why people are protesting, as long as they are it’s good?
Yeah. As I’ve seen someone else put it, “we’re glad you’re here” is far better than “what took you so long”
I never get the “we were doing it first” toxicity. Why should it matter why the newcomers were ignorant if they want to join the cause? Why create new enemies just to protect your “pure” reasons? That kind of separationism is exactly what keeps the ones you should focus on in power, and they want it that way. A divided resistance will fail.
Its the cop-in-your-brain, which is of course all of the propaganda of the fascists. This is exactly what they want, and their choice rhetoric has worked its way into the leftist spaces to an extent
I agree with your point, however it’s also frustrating how obvious it was that all the post-9/11 powers we gave the government would be abused.
The PATRIOT Act was a fucking power grab, and obviously was in place in case a crisis came into play. No way something that couldn’t be read in that short a time before approval was written that fast.
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Because the majority of “leftists” are exclusively online and their entire lives revolve around internet points derived from having the best and purest ideologies
Exactly
Tbf I was in grade school in 2003 so it’s a bit much to expect me to have been on the “abolish the DHS” train for that long 😆
“an entire year of people being ILLEGALLY deported or disappeared” true, state violence against anyone is only okay when it’s done legally, with due process and for the good of the national people’s
Like I’ve said before, expecting empathy was just silly, these people and their ancestors have been empire-building forever and, if they express any moral values, don’t think of them as anything but decorative disinfo cause what they really believe in is “might makes right”… There’s always one here and there, the thinking dissidents with moral frameworks like miss Greta, Francesca Albanese and John Brown but not a plurality. Selfish fear? Now that we can trust, lol.
these people and their ancestors
So if I’m the wrong skin color and have past relatives who didn’t do anything that made a change, I can’t participate in doing something now? If we could find a movement that had all the morality of the progressives while having the right’s trait to let anyone join who agrees with the cause, we might have something that works. It seems to be a leftist thing to gatekeep anyone who tries to help.
Al whide beeble ebil.
