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They’re dropping trailers as if they’re living in 2015 i-cant

I hope that this shit leads to a loss of billions of dollars.

  • LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    21·
    3 days ago

    This is so fucking stupid from so many different perspectives

    You’ve got how dumb it is to spend 5 years saying Anthony mackie is the new captain america only to go back on that while also looking really racist for doing so imo

    Then there’s how the whole point to doing something like this is so your oinking hog customers slopping at your trough see him on screen and shit themselves with glee, probably clapping in theater because that’s how these fucking animals are (SLUGS dril), but now they’ve spoiled it so it won’t have the impact of being a surprise

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    21·
    3 days ago

    the studio’s entirely predictable hail mary to try and recover after a series of unforced errors.

    the large studio system has never been a reliable source of novel storytelling, but comic adaptations gave them an advantage: the stories were already told and storyboarded. all they had to do was find people who looked like the person, could deliver the lines in a fishbowl, and pump cash into the effects machine. have each production run by someone who liked the source material, and you’re off.

    i think it was working from an accounting perspective, but the oversaturation was real. infinity wars was definitely a crescendo. then they spent years slow building Kang as the next big bad only for the actor to blow themselves up publicly and cause some kind half-baked, executive contingency plan to unfold as other actors started separating or new, sometimes obscure characters were onboarded without an anchor.

    i don’t think you can tell a good story without a villain. you can, but it won’t be easily digestible like a popcorn movie needs to be. i think the studio has been floundering because these institutions are run by accountants and lawyers, the sort of people who are great at leading large institutions which more or less run themselves.

    the minute there is trouble, when the ability of leadership is needed from those in the role, they can’t get it done. it’s one poor decision after another, sudden reversals, and the lack of confidence or stability rains down on everyone below until its not so much an organization of people doing things, but a mass of individuals looking to get their piece and get out.

    i like chris evans and ill prob watch this shit for free, but all see here is product placement for Triumph motorcycles. which, i bet that cost.

    • christian [he/him, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      1·
      1 day ago

      they spent years slow building Kang as the next big bad only for the actor to blow themselves up publicly and cause some kind half-baked, executive contingency plan to unfold

      I don’t pay much attention to marvel or to movies in general and I have no idea who Kang is, but I think that drama behind a half-baked corporate contingency plan sounds like something I actually would enjoy. Can I get a summary?

      • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        3·
        1 day ago

        so here’s my shitty dilettante summary. MCU spent like multiple movies building up towards Thanos aka Josh Brolin. little drips and drabs here and there over the course of probably half a dozen movies for probably something like 2 years, until eventually he’s the primary antagonist for two big ass movies, back to back. that’s decent story telling: slowly winding it up, building tension for a long time until the audience is braying for resolution. there are only so many god-tier level baddies in the comics and Thanos was one of them. then they killed his ass, and went back in time and killed him again, so the guy is done-zo. like, whoever at disney thought it was OK for star wars to just keep bringing back clones of palpatine over and over was locked out of the marvel story sessions, thank god lol.

        after the whole Thanos thing ends, we had the Loki TV show (two seasons) that provided a bunch of amusing and well executed context/lore for this whole “multiverse” thing and then we got movies about all these alternate universes crossing over into each other, and over the course of like multiple movies we start getting the impression that there’s a god-tier dangerous villain at the center of this multiverse thing. also, its important to note, that a major plot point is that the stakes were much higher now than they were in those earlier movies. a supervillain from the distant future (i think) named Kang who conquered his universe and then sought to conquer all universes across all timelines. one version of him is such an a-hole that many of the other mostly a-hole versions of him banded together to lock his ass down. but then he got out of this pseudo-prison. sort of. it was kind of this “oh shit, we’ve possibly inadvertently freed a cosmic villain infinitely worse than thanos” vibe.

        it’s a super complicated context to establish in a narrative because there’s all these realities and versions of this guy touching on things, appearing in the background stories of other marvel characters, and they are all being meticulously woven together while setting up that the most dangerous version of him is out there. and through it all, this guy, Kang (and all alternate versions of him) are portrayed by Jonathan Majors.

        like Josh Brolin, Jonathan Majors is a talented professional actor. MFA from Yale School of Drama, yadda yadda, appeared in some solid art house stuff (Last Black Man in San Francisco), and was experiencing this moment in his career where he was appearing in everything (one of the Creed movies) while receiving critical acclaim, including an HBO miniseries (Lovecraft Country) and some US army recruitment campaign. and he’s being established as this major character (playing dozens of different versions of himself) by Marvel Studios, so he’s got to be banking while also staying as outrageously jacked as they make every superhero actor be in those movies.

        (CW: intimate partner violence) anyway in 2023 Jon Majors (aka MCU’s Kang) gets arrested for assault and harassment of an ex-girlfriend. i didn’t really look into it closely because those stories make me really upset, but the evidence and context must have been fairly damning to the point of a giant capital formation not being able to spin anything or out lawyer the prosecution, because his agency dropped him, the military dropped his spots, he was released from all his projects, and then he was convicted.

        so marvel studios drops him and that all makes sense. but, while i think they could have tried recasting the role and done some kind of wink, wink lampshading to acknowledge a different guy in the role, instead they just severed this entire interwoven series of story arcs and pretended like it didn’t matter, with no resolution to any of it.

        instead, it’s like they took all these side stories that were meant to be a background preamble to the next big phase of the story, and started dumping them out as the main plot we are expected to give a shit about. it’s very much an industrial management process response… “the new microwave is a cock up, let’s pivot to fridges and get something out by xmas.” but that doesn’t really work with stories. if you don’t tie up all these narrative threads, you end up with a big mess and people aren’t sure what they’re even looking forward to anymore.

        instead, it’s just like, “oh there’s a new marvel movie. who is in this one? pedro pascal is reed richards in a retrofuturistic alternate earth. oh that’s kinda cool, i guess?” it’s a story, it’s comics, i’m sure the production value will be through the roof, but there’s nothing on the menu for the larger arc… so what is there to get invested in?

  • vegeta1 [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    11·
    3 days ago

    Now they’ve gotta drag the OGs back because US airforce propaganda mascot ms marvel and morty cosplaying spiderman won’t do the numbers they need on this.

  • SexUnderSocialism [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    6·
    2 days ago

    I wonder if I’m the only person on the planet who’s never deliberately watched capeshit. I’ve watched some, but it was always either against my will, or because it just happened to be on TV and there wasn’t anything else worth watching.