Summer here is rainy… wet… humid… moist… interspersed with very sunny, very hot days, and nature is blooming, it’s wonderful. You essentially don’t come out of hiding between 10 and 15 if you’re white as I am. That’s certainly a complication
I kinda like all weather, I’m a weather-appreciating generalist I guess so long as it doesn’t stay the same for too long. But I definitely like light more than darkness, and god damn the nights get long in the winter. The serenity of a fresh snowfall is not worth three months with < 8 hours of daylight.
If it stayed light until 8pm in the winter I’m sure I would like winter better than I currently do
This is why I like summer. I like winter, but I wouldn’t mind summer lasting way longer.
I used to LOVE summer but its just way too hot now.
Any maybe winters not cold enough people would appreciate some warmth
Summer? When things are green? I can get strawberries from our garden? It isn’t dark at 4:30 in the afternoon? I don’t have to scrape ice off the car while it preheats idling?
That atrocious season?
Yes, that season with 40°C (104°F) and up to 90% humidity, where you can’t be outside in the sun for a quarter of the available daylight if you don’t want to die young, and the only way to fight the heat is AC.
#TeamWinter
I used to live in Australia, and moved to the Nordics. I love summer and winter here. Australian summers are too hot, and winter is just wet and cold. Nordic winters have snow (hopefully soon) and it’s dry outside, and summers are maximum 30c, anything over 25c is a heatwave. I can deal with that.
That was also my strategy to fight global warming, I moved up North. I enjoy the climate here much more (even if my countrymen tell me I am crazy).
Yeah in the nordics you have actual seasons. You miss summer.
May I present a counter argument:
#THE FUCKING SUN
Oh those two weeks where it’s like super nice and your replenish your vitamin d for the year?
Norwegian here
Ya that atrocious season. The season where you can walk through the woods on a full moon, the luminescence making the snow practically glow as the Milky Way makes its Milky Way. That season that has a stillness and quietness not found anywhere else, where you could hear a pin drop from a football field away. That atrocious season where you get to take ridiculously hot saunas, then jump in the snow or lake, and get to feel clean from the inside out. That atrocious season where you get to cuddle up with your family in front of a nice fire and read a book. Bleh who needs it
You should write a book. That’s top tier descriptiveness.
where you get to take ridiculously hot saunas, then jump in the snow or lake,
Be careful. That behavior can cause a stroke.
This is huuuuugely dependent on where you live.
It’s hot as shit here and things get brown, not Green.
Christmas also much less magical haha (because it’s summer)
listen here, canadian, you may like it when your extremities hurt from how fucking cold it is, and love sweating because you have to wear layers to not freeze, but your nose is still cold, but some of us actually like feeling like we’re warm enough and being ok with things being bright, visible, welcoming and comfortable.
Too hot? just stay indoors between 11 to 3 and you’ll be fine.
EDIT: Unlike those random ass non summer months when it can rain or be shittier than usual at random, we know when it’s too fucking hot or so sunny it will burn you; it’s the same fucking time every day.
Too cold? Put on more clothes until you’re warm and cozy.
Too hot? Keep taking off clothes until you’re just a sweaty naked mess begging for the sweet release of death.
I got 3 layers on inside and my hands are still chilled and my feet bounce from being cold to being sweaty so I’m constantly taking my socks on and off. I was sitting in my office at work with my coat and jacket on for 3 hours yesterday before I got back up to a comfortable temperature after being outside. Also everything just fucking hurts all the time. Fuck this shit. I don’t have issues like this in summer.
It kinda sounds like you might need to see a doctor about that.
Wtf is a doctor going to do. It’s been this way my entire life.
I don’t know, I’m not a doctor. But if it takes 3 hours in a jacket indoors to get warm, there’s potentially an issue going on. Temperature regulation issues could be nothing, or they could be a symptom of an underlying issue.
My wife is like that and it’s probably the neuropathy from the lupus that no one but her eye doctor believes she has (despite her father and his mother dying from it). Like, if it’s below 78F, she has a jacket on.
So just because it has been that way your whole life, without a doctor looking into why, it is an unsolvable problem…? All you’ve said just screams “I want to have this problem because it’s something to complain about”.
Imagine if a person has had a limp their whole life, they complain about it and other people say “it shouldn’t be like that, it’s not normal and you should get it looked at” and their reply is what you said. See how fucking dumb that is? That’s you.So, say it is some medical issue where my body doesn’t regulate temperature properly, what will they actually be able to do? Make me spend $1000s on diagnostic tests? Put me on an expensive medication that I have to take forever? I live in America, our healthcare is a joke and I’m not going to waste my money on something that isn’t actively killing me. So yeah I’m going to complain.
Too cold? Put on more clothes until you’re warm and cozy.
again, different parts are difficult to keep warm, like my nose or my hands and feet. How the fuck am I meant to type with thick gloves on?
Also, the differing levels of activity and transitions make it awkward, I’m dressed in a thick coat because its cold, and my core starts to get warm because I’m walking , but my arms would be freezing, and when I get to my destination I take of my coat and stench bomb wherever the fuck I am
As opposed to being too hot all over and desperate for anything that gives the slightest momentary relief. Not being able stand any activity because movement just makes you hotter and the heat has sapped your will to live. Being sweaty all over no matter what you do because it’s all your body can do to keep you alive.
Our bodies generate heat. When trying to warm up, physics is on our side. When trying to cool down, we are fighting a losing battle. You’re worrying about typing in gloves while I’m trying to figure how to waterproof my whole system so I can work from my shower.
bruh just turn on a fan
That only helps up to about 80F for me. Beyond that, it’s just misery with a breeze.
Ok. It introduces wind. Temps still remain high.
Stay inside from 11-3? More like stay inside from May-September.
I never stop sweating for like four months of the year and hate it.
Canadian here. Fuck being cold.
And never seeing the sun.
How many mosquito bites did you get today?
I’d rather take the summer mosquitoes. It goes down to as low as -40c/f and I just don’t want to dress in like four layers w/ snowpants, balaklava, boots and all that to do every single thing that requires going outside like taking out the garbage or doing groceries
I’d assume the same number people who don’t live near swamps get. Or people who stay inside.
Too hot? just stay indoors between 11 and 3 and you’ll be fine.
Good thing no one works outdoors and every building has A/C.
It sucks to work outdoors full stop. You think they prefer it cold or rainy?
My dad’s a welder, works outside every day. I asked him, he said obviously it depends on the situation but in general he’d take cold and dry. 1-5 degrees and raining is just about worst case scenario for him. We’re Canadian though so we’re used to the cold, maybe if you asked someone from Florida or something they’d have a different answer.
My dad’s a welder,
he’d take cold and dry. 1-5 degrees and raining is just about worst case scenario for him.He’s working with fire. of course he prefers winter.
Too hot? just stay indoors between 11 to 3 and you’ll be fine.
Cries in European (we usually don’t have AC)
A dehumidifier plus a “swamp cooler” (a bucket of ice in front of a fan) works pretty well so long as you keep it to one room and only expect it to work for a few hours or so. Otherwise you’ll be buying a lot of ice and doing a lot of work dumping the water from the dehumidifier.
Won’t the dehumidifier warm up the room again?
Yes, but it’s not a big deal because it only will run once the humidity gets above a certain level - especially if you’re using it to cover multiple rooms where any heat from it running will disperse across a wide area. You set it to something like 60% and it will pop on occasionally for a few minutes to maintain that level.
In a closed room with a swamp cooler it’s a bit of a different story, but that’s why I recommend that only for a short period of time, a couple of hours at most. Just long enough to cool down yourself and the room.
So you leave the dehumidifier on all the time on an automatic setting in a central location in the house to keep the air in the house fairly dry, run a swamp cooler late in the afternoon to cool down your room, and if it isn’t too hot and humid outside, open a couple of windows in the house to get some cross ventilation going and air out the house once the sun goes down.
Neither do Canadians
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bruh just turn on a fan
Bruh, learn physics: Those don’t work too well if it’s too humid. 🙄
… isn’t it the other way around?
Nope. You lose heat by evaporation of water on your skin. If the air is too humid, water can evaporate worse and worse.
That’s why heat in the Sahara is easier to handle than in the amazon forest.
OK, but I’m not talking about making your body temperature drop, I’m talking about feeling cooler. Doesn’t having more stuff in the breeze make it feel cooler?
I don’t know what else to tell you other than “evaporation makes it feel colder”.
No. What makes you feel colder is the air moving faster and therefore absorbing sweat off your skin more quickly. If the air is already moist then its capacity for extra heat goes down. You should look up what Wet Bulb Temperature is. In short, it’s when the humidity nears 100%, which prevents the air from absorbing any heat from your body because it’s no longer pulling sweat off of you. At this level of humidity, even special forces units have found themselves incapacitated within hours due to heat stroke during army tests of soldier capabilities in those conditions. There was a heatwave of about 70-80F in the UK a couple of years ago where multiple people died of heat stroke related organ failure because the humidity was so high that their organs couldn’t cool down and overheated until they just stopped working.
If you want to cool down, ideally the first step is to get a dehumidifier to pull water out of the air. This is how air conditioners work as well, they pull moisture out of the air which carries heat, and then transfer that heat and moisture somewhere else.
In the short term, you can use a “swamp cooler” as an ad hoc air conditioner to help cool down. A swamp cooler is just a big bucket of ice in front of a fan. The ice will cool down the air in front of the fan as it blows over it, allowing it to absorb heat from the rest of the room. This only works short-term though, because it won’t do anything about the humidity in the room and will actually increase the humidity as the ice melts.
Have you ever been in a Turkish sauna? That’s the same principle. Warm water in the air is definitely not pleasant and refreshing.
That’s what your mom did (I’m her fan)
You know that scene from riddick where the guy steps into the sun/desert storm and gets instantly vaporized? Thats what its like here in the summer. Every year my state sends everyone a letter telling them basically not to go outside. Winters are aight, they get a little cold. Coldest i can remember was about -10f or im guessing about -14C
I live in Calgary. The 3 things Calgarians will invariably tell you are: 1) Calgary Olympics was the only profitable one and was well managed. 2) Tennessee barbeque is the greatest. 3) it gets to -40, but it’s not so bad because it’s dry cold.
Only one of those is unconditionally true.
- Calgary Olympics was the only profitable one and was well managed
is it this one?
Yup. They used it as an impetus to build public transportation infrastructure, turned the Olympic complex into a winter sporting area, and the athlete dorms into student/affordable housing.
Since then, public transportation has turned to dog shit for most of the city, but it works well for me. Plenty of people still use the winter sporting infrastructure (I think), and housing still exists even if everything around those areas are getting gentrified, which somewhat of a universal truth.
No. It’s the nice weather and long days.
If you count nice weather as scorching hot air that’s difficult to breathe in, nonstop blinding sunlight, rarely any precipitation to cool things down, and for all that pain to last like 16 hours of the day, then sure, that’s nice weather. Not to mention the million bugs constantly trying to get you.
Summer used to be nicer, though. Before the climate crisis made it unbearable.
Winter being more fun, because there actually was snow for downhill sports is pure nostalgia from when I was a kid. I can agree on that. But summer was great if you had access to a lake or pool.
This is true, luckily where I live we still get a ton of snow(lake effect) so I can continue to enjoy winter(except for the driving) hopefully for a while longer. Summer has unfortunately become unbearable though, getting between 90°f-110°f for weeks on end with unbelievably high humidity has been nothing but pain.
Yeah, I guess you and the other person don’t really share climates. Summer means very different things to people from central Sweden and people from Sicily (not from US, so… difference between Mississippi or Colorado, maybe?)
Absolutely, this was a point I was going to make until I got a reply telling me to “get some friends” and I decided to make a snide remark.
Yeah, that comment was kinda shit.
I don’t recall hitting 110°F (43°C) but other than that your description is spot on with my recent experience in Michigan.
I miss summers where it was just humid, not stupidly hot AND humid.
NW Ohio and this summer’s baseline was mid 90’s with full humidity, and just more heat thrown on top. Quite a few days in a row over 100, which is fairly unheard of on Lake Erie. My apartment doesn’t have AC, my office doesn’t have AC, and my car doesn’t have AC.
I don’t count nice weather as those things you dramatised.
Well I haven’t experienced a summer in the last 10 years that didn’t have those attributes which I am quite serious in saying I only slightly dramatized. Where I live, I might get an accumulative week of days during the summer where it’s bearable to go outside.
I live in Australia, I fucking love summer.
Winter is absolute painful hell. Literally painful for me at times.
I see what you did there.
It all depends where you live
I love all of that except the bugs and they don’t bother me as much as the cold.
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I have friends, they also dislike summer for the same logical reasons, so we stay inside and remain comfortable. If your only point is to try to insult me by insinuating I don’t have friends, while fantasizing about being a perv at your local beach, then good luck in life bud.
I also enjoy actually seeing the fucking sun once in a while.
Spotted a 9 to 5 workoid. (It takes one to know one)
Well, 7-6. I live in the dark.
I work in a basement with no windows. Will regularly go 5 straight days with no sun. Still prefer winter over summer.
Two words.
Summer nights.
Warm, but not too hot, beautiful and calming.
Winter can fuck off until it brings sensible amount of snow.
Fall can fuck off fully as I hate rain.
On the fence about Spring. Sometimes it’s Fall lite, sometines it’s Summer Nights daylight version.
Damn. Your take on fall saddens me. Where I come from fall is the driest season of the year. The chill finally starts to settle in the air and the leaves start to change and a steady light breeze starts in due to the leaves dropping from the trees.
A wet fall on the other hand sounds miserable.
Where I live fall is basically a completely random mix of anything between +15 °C and dry weather (but the ground is still wet from yesterday) and rain at +1 °C, with nights being anything between +10 and -5.
Winter is basically two months of damp +2°C days followed by a February with actual snow that nobody is really happy about because it happens at the worst time possible.
Spring is nice. Then summer rolls around with temps between 30 and 40 °C because of climate change. It’s still better than fall and winter.
Here’s it’s famously golden and famously wet. Coupled with overall gray (thankfully less and less) look of the cities…welcome to depresso season. Or angery for me. Cause rain.
Summer nights are okay but I hate mosquitoes so I don’t get to enjoy them as much as I’d like.
I don’t like cold rain, so Spring is out for me. Fall is DRY here. Like the only temporary drought we ever get. Summers are a mixed bag, mostly unbearably hot and humid, but we do occasionally get strangely cool and dry days where it is too chilly to be standing outside wet in a swimsuit. Winter is great as long as it’s below freezing, which it mostly has been. It’s not even winter yet and we’ve had four good snows. It was -19c yesterday morning, and we’re at the same latitude as Portugal. Sometimes we get a warm winter day with that 2 or 3c rain and that can fuck right off.
Seconded summer nights.
♪ Kiss me, beneath the milky twilight… ♪
I love summer because it’s the only season that’s consistently not cold, and I hate being cold more than I hate being hot.
Yeah, being hot sucks but drink water and snack and you’ll survive. Being extremely cold is PAIN. That said I much prefer spring. Warm days, cool nights, and rain is pretty neat.
People always say “just put on more layers” but it’s important to understand that cold kills way more people than heat. Depending on the source, the ratio is between 9:1 and 18:1.
Still, I find it objectively easier to defend from cold than heat. Other than living indoors with AC or inside water, what can you do?
living indoors during winter is also highly advisable
I can get used to being hot. Plus you get relief in the shade and at night. When it’s cold, it’s too cold during the day, night, sun, or shade. It’s also a PITA to put on several layers of clothes plus a coat. In the summer I can pretty much roll a t shirt, shorts, and flip flops 24\7.
several layers of clothes plus a coat
You’re wearing the wrong clothes.
I walk/hike for hours in -2–20C with 1-2 layers plus a coat. You have your skin layer; some kind of generuc athletic wear to wick away sweat, your insulating layer, a thick sweater, and your coat, but usually I just have the skin layer and unzipped coat.
Same with the legs, long underwear for the skin, sweatpants for insulation, and snowpants, but usually just jeans and underwear.
I know how to dress, dumbass. I don’t like the cold, so I wear three layers plus a coat on my upper and two layers on my bottoms along with wool socks and winter boots. … Several layers. Plus hat, gloves and a face covering if it’s also windy.
If you’re dressing correctly, IDK how you can be cold. Get a thicker insulating layer?
I’m the same way. Hate being cold. I’ve started to just say my favorite season is “not winter”. Though it helps I live in an area with incredible summers and miserable winters.
people who say they like [other season] are lying to themselves. It is objectively correct to like [poster’s favorite season]
Depends on your climate. Climate usually cold? Summer is a relief. Climate usually hot? Summer sucks.
God I love summer. Hard to go to the lake when it’s frozen. Can’t go hiking in the mud during spring or fall. Camping when it’s 35 sucks. Just relaxing outside for hours in the 20s isn’t ideal. Summer is amazing.
Same, drink plenty of water and you’re fine. I’ll take the warm weather over the cold any day of the year. Cold sucks, because all your doing is trying to stay warm.
Warm weather he says.
Sure, “warm” is definitely a description.
A better description might be “So balls-squelchingly hot that you are constantly sweating, even when not moving, and you have to carry a spare change of clothes for when your first one inevitably becomes drenched; and you are constantly miserable because your body is not designed to be comfortable in +38°C temperatures and, unlike cold weather, you can not just wear more appropriate clothing because even when you are butt ass naked, your back will still resemble a fucking waterfall.”
But sure, let’s go with “warm” weather.
Lol I’m in the south, where that’s normal. Guess I’m used to it.
I completely disagree. I easily stay warm camping in the snow, I have the proper gear. I am completely unable to be cool outdoors in the summer.
And what kind of activities do you do while you’re out there in the cold? In the snow? Hang out in your tent. Walk to the fire to stay warm and back to the tent. I mean really there’s not a ton that you can’t actually do unless you are specifically out there to ski or snowboard or some other stupid cold weather sport like that.
I go snowshoeing during the day, or maybe drive around in the snow, my car is very capable. We don’t have mountains nearby to ski or snowboard, and I don’t care for cross country skiing.
Sometimes I’ll drive to town for a meal in a local diner, or I’ll spend some time cooking a nice meal at my camp. I don’t spend time in my tent except to sleep or change my clothes, maybe roll a joint away from the wind.
I can sit comfortably outside in a chair for hours at -20C without getting cold. I like to stand by the fire sometimes, maybe listen to some music, there’s never anyone right next to me it will bother. And yes a fire is nice, but I don’t need it to stay warm. I do like to cook over the fire also. A campstove is efficient, but cooking some meat over a fire in the snow is a vibe.
Sometimes I have data coverage where I camp, and I might spend a little time on my phone or on a tablet. They don’t mind bitter cold, although batteries don’t perform quite as well. I have lots of options for power sources if needed. But honestly I prefer when I’m outside of data range and no one can reach me.
Lol the guy downvoting you because his pathetic “gotcha” didn’t work.
That’s kind of a biased take, isn’t it? You clearly don’t enjoy snow activities, but that doesn’t mean others don’t like them. We hike, cook, play various games, all outside in the snow. Wear the proper gear and there is no bad weather.
What’s wrong with skiing or snowboarding?
It’s cold
Sometimes I take my jacket off because it gets too hot.
Ever been ice fishing? Snow mobiling? Those are both fun ways to pass the tine at the lake in winter.
Yes I’ve been ice fishing and I absolutely hate it. Never been snowmobiling but I imagine that it’s much colder snowmobiling as well as you’re going faster and the wind and everything like that so no thanks.
Frozen lakes are what you can skate on. 35 is unbearable camping temperature. Way too hot.
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Yeah but you can’t swim for a very long. Makes it really difficult to kayak or canoe or rap. Makes it unbearable to fish unless you bring a cabin and basically live on the lake.
Makes it really difficult to […] rap
Ouch. Fair, but ouch.
See. Terrible rap lyrics. Mouth to cold, can’t rhym worth a damn, freezin, breezin, life in the winter ain’t nothin but sneezin.
Why a cabin? Gloves and an axe will do fine.
The sun is out.
Plants are doing their thing.
Life is abundant.
Idk who the fuck actually thinks “yes winter thank god”
The heat is restrictive.
Plants are releasing allergens, requring medication and/or extensive exposure therapies.
Abundance of life can be overwhelming and invasive in the form of road traffic full of boat trailers, pickup flag caravans, and grills and smokers billowing on residential development scales.
I can regulate my temperature in the cold, where there are barely any allergens that get me and everyone’s holed up inside so I can be outside and in peace more often than not.
But my ancestors were bog people. If it isn’t misty or foggy in the morning I am genetically obligated to be grouchy until ingesting heated caffiene or complaining about the english.
No bugs.
Snow.
Sun is still out but isn’t a deadly laser.
Hot cocoa by a crackling fire.
Snow
If only.
Agree with the rest
It isn’t even winter yet and we’ve had four good snows already. We were -19c yesterday morning. I’m in southwest Ohio. Barely anyone around here really believes in global warming outside of the Earth’s natural cycles, because it certainly has not gotten hotter here. Yeah I understand global data vs local data but the lived experience is we’re very often below average temperature. Even summer days at the water park, sometimes it’s pretty chilly to be wet in a swimsuit. We’re at the same latitude as Portugal.
Yeah good for you I guess. I am 23 years old and in my lifetime we went from having at least 50cm of snow each winter to barely getting any at all and if we get it it melts due to rain next day. I mean the local lake used to freeze for people go skate. They even drove cars on it 80 years ago. It has frozen once in the last 10-15 years. I barely remember it freezing when I was little.
People who live in hot places I assume
Dead silent moonlit landscapes are just incredible.
Dry is key, wet and cold winters are awful. Like -6C to -17C is perfect. -6C is practically t-shirt weather. Anything between-3C and 5C (27F-41F) is just misery.
Living somewhere that the snow stays powdery and it’s -10C on average for 4 months of the winter is awesome!
Dry is key, wet and cold winters are awful.
I think this is a key distinction between the people who generally like one over the other. If you live somewhere where winter is wet and summer is dry, you probably prefer summer. And vice versa.
The other big thing that I never see anyone talk about is the wind. I think the wind is probably one of the most impactful things for a season. Hot summer with a cool breeze bringing cold air from over the ocean? Fantastic and refreshing. Snow on the ground and gusting 8-16 kmh? I don’t care how sunny it is, that wind is cutting through every single layer you put on. I woke up the other day to a wind chill that brought the temp from -10°C to -17°C. That’s 14°F to 1°F.
Watching the sun rise every morning is nice.
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