• @CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      8811 days ago

      I was invited to a user group where oracle Linux was trying to get more adopters. The coolest thing they had was the ability to update a kernel driver while it was running. In place. Without downtime.

      I asked them if they planned on pushing this improvement to the kernel devs and they just gave me a blank face.

      Told me everything I needed to know about Oracle Linux. I promptly formatted the thumb drive they gave me for free.

    • @some_guy
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      They want to clean the carpet, not lose the house.

    • @1984@lemmy.today
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      811 days ago

      They actually have an oracle cloud too. It’s used by some companies… And it’s awful.

      • @CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        710 days ago

        It’s used by Tony fucking Stark.

        I mean, I can suspend disbelief that he is Iron Man and has futuristic fights with aliens

        But I cannot believe that same man uses fucking Oracle Cloud.

  • @Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip
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    9011 days ago

    Similar to a joke my dad told in the 90’s

    If Microsoft ever makes a product that doesn’t suck, it’ll be a vacuum cleaner.

    • Sjmarf
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      https://builder.dontvacuum.me

      This website is great xD

      Privacy Policy: I do not care about privacy and will try to sell, rent, lease or give away all your information (name, address, email, your pets name, etc.) to any third party (but only if they pay enough). Also I will send you unsolicited email with cute dog puppy pictures.

      • Nailbar
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        610 days ago

        Well now I’m even more conflicted about sending them my email!

      • Jolteon
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        410 days ago

        Is there even a place on the website that asks for that information?

        • @tofuwabohu@slrpnk.net
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          18 days ago

          Yes, you get an email containing a link to your download when the requested build is done.

          This guy actually built an automated builder so people can easily request tailored images for their robots which is super cool.

    • NONEOP
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      2411 days ago

      Now this turned meta-referencial really quick.

    • @yonder@sh.itjust.works
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      210 days ago

      Ironically, I’m reading this from PostmarketOS, which has support for the echo dot 2, feature phones and some smartwatches, so it might be realistic to run on a vacum lol.

    • NONEOP
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      1611 days ago

      There’s people who pay for Linux!? 😭

        • NONEOP
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          911 days ago

          But, like, is for support and stuff, no?

          • Dran
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            5011 days ago

            A lot of industries are semi-forced into it. Let me give you an example I know of first-hand. Modern SAP stacks support 3 operating systems. Windows Server, RHEL, and SuSE.

            You’re probably thinking to yourself: “but rhel is just regular linux, surely you can install it on anything if you have the appropriate dependencies, I’ll bet it even just works on rhel-compatibles like rocky, alma, or centos stream!”

            And you would be ~sort of~ right, but wrong in the most dystopian way possible. The installer itself does hardcoded checks for “compatible” operating systems, using /etc/os-release and a few other common system files. Spoofing those to rhel 8.5 or whatever is easy enough, but the one that really gets you is a dependency for compat-glibc-X.Y-ZZZZ.x86_64. This “glibc compatibility library” is conveniently only accessible via a super special redhat repository granted by a super special sap license (which is like ~$2,000/year/cpu). Looking at the redhat sources it is actually just a bog-standard semi-modern glibc compile with nothing special. The only other thing you get with this license as far as I can tell is another metapackage that installs dependencies, and makes a few kernel tweaks recommended by SAP.

            So you can install it on alma/rocky by impersonating rhel in /etc/os-release, and then compiling a version of glibc and linking it in a special hardcoded location, but SAP/Redhat put as many roadblocks in your way as possible to do this. It took me weeks of reverse-engineering the installer to get our farm off of the ~100k/yr that redhat wanted to charge us for essentially:

            ./configure --enable-bootstrap --enable-languages=c,c++,lto --prefix=/usr --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --with-bugurl=http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla --enable-shared --enable-threads=posix --enable-checking=release --enable-multilib --with-system-zlib --enable-__cxa_atexit --disable-libunwind-exceptions --enable-gnu-unique-object --enable-linker-build-id --with-gcc-major-version-only --enable-plugin --with-linker-hash-style=gnu --enable-initfini-array --disable-libquadmath --disable-libsanitizer --disable-libvtv --disable-libgomp --disable-libitm --disable-libssp --disable-libatomic --disable-libcilkrts --without-isl --disable-libmpx --enable-gnu-indirect-function --with-tune=generic --with-arch_32=i686 --build=x86_64-redhat-linux
            Thread model: posix
            gcc version 9.1.1 20190605 (Red Hat 9.1.1-2) (GCC)
            

            definitely worth $100,000/yr… much capitalism, many line go up

            • NONEOP
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              2311 days ago

              Finally… I found it… Evil Linux…

              • @nesc@lemmy.cafe
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                211 days ago

                There is nothing evil about it? Like sources are available, rhel itself is cheap and actually invests a lot in oss. If you want an unsupported system you are free to do something like this.

                • NONEOP
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                  I said evil as in the meme, like the evil version of something is its total opposite. And RHEL sound like the total opposite of what I associate whit Linux.

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              I assumed that you could just run fedora and spoof RHEL. The fact that you need to use a specific GCC is insane. They must share their source code right? Or, are they no longer sharing it as they are legally required to?

              Anyways, RHEL is deep suck.

              • Dran
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                311 days ago

                The source to this compat library is in their sources last I checked, but because it’s not part of their standard repos it doesn’t technically have to be. I suspect this is eventually the end-goal.

            • NONEOP
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              511 days ago

              Don’t know what to think about it… 😬