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    • WhyEssEff [she/her]English
      41•4 months ago

      we must wring the Internet Archive for cash because they dared disrespect the auteur behind ‘FNNNnnngggmmflorp’ porky-point

          • CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]English
            12•4 months ago

            But I assure you, my Bad Tweet — which I posted during a very bad time, which is to say, at the start of pandemic lockdowns, when everybody felt like yellowjacket wasps at the end of summer — was not in any way a contributing factor to the publishing lawsuit. We were trapped in our houses. Things were weird. Everybody was nervous. Writers and artists and freelancers had no idea what was going to happen next. We were bleaching our broccoli and washing our hands bloody. It was fucked up. Sorry.

            Holy shit, blaming it on the stress of “lockdown”? We never locked down but getting paid to not risk my life at a pointless job was one of the chillest times of my life, so much so that I still yearn for that time to come back even though I was going through a devastating breakup at the time, that’s how bad capitalism and having to work are. Unless he was locked at home with an actual domestic violence abuser I can’t imagine how he could have been under such immense stress to trigger a lawsuit.

            Anyway what was the tweet even? Because I can’t see them at all, not even here: https://web.archive.org/web/20200704020133/https://medium.com/nameless-aimless/the-assassination-of-the-internet-archive-by-the-coward-chuck-wendig-5ffb4677ee49

            Good evisceration though: “Chuck is less a writer than he is a mouthpiece for corporate fandom and a watchdog for copyright disobedience. His assertion that he is being attacked by bad faith actors misdirecting their anger towards publishers at him is disingenuous. When Metallica drove Napster into bankruptcy over piracy of their albums, they received due backlash for crushing one of the best distribution networks of the early internet era. The difference here is that Metallica made Master of Puppets and Chuck hasn’t even made St. Anger. Chuck Wendig is less interested in writing than he is in mining whatever drips of profit he can from a desiccated industry.”

            And on that note I’ve never heard of the guy, has he actually done anything of notable value? Wikipedia just mentions some Star Wars slop and some Marvel slop as his biggest contributions to culture, which sound like net negatives

          • Amerikan PharaohEnglish
            4•4 months ago

            Nah I want Wendig irreparably caught beneath a stampede of techbro tennis shoes and low-quarters; and stamped into the motherfuckin earth. I hold him just as responsible as the publishing house porkies for this capitalist horsefuckery.

        • TomBombadil [he/him, she/her]English
          8•4 months ago

          Does anyone have or could paraphrase his original tweet(s) so far I can’t find them. Love to have them for some sort of archive

  • InevitableSwing [none/use name]English
    38•4 months ago

    The Internet Archive is still facing a similar, follow on suit filed by a group of major record labels over its “Great 78” program, which collects vintage, 20th century 78 rpm recordings, digitizes them and makes them freely available to the public.

  • darkcalling [comrade/them, she/her]English
    35•4 months ago

    This is what idealism does to you.

    Hmm today we will openly, defiantly, and unambiguously break the law.

    Hmm we’ve gotten a legal demand to stop and a lawsuit, they say if we stop, apologize and promise never to do it again they’ll settle for a pittance but we are taking a moral stand here and believe our moral philosophical arguments hold more weight than the law as written that clearly places us unambiguously in violation of the law.

    Court proceeds to ignore their philosophical arguments and enforce bourgeois law as written

    shocked-pikachu

    This was beyond obvious as the outcome. Bourgeois courts don’t serve some public interest.

    So instead now we stand to lose an invaluable, irreplaceable archive of not just the internet over decades of time but also rare media such as movies, TV shows, music videos, and much more all also archived with them. And for what? Because someone couldn’t back down and thought that courts in the US served the common interest instead of the wealthy. Because someone forgot the golden rule of piracy and breaking IP laws and that’s keep quiet about it.

    • CyberSyndicalist [none/use name]English
      12•4 months ago

      Naive to think the internet archive would have been fine if they backed down. Settling would have only been the thin end of the wedge as more new lawsuits flood in seeking to destroy the archive piece by piece. The bourgeois want to destroy the commons and the law is only a temporary obstacle at most.

  • LaughingLion [any, any]English
    32•4 months ago

    doesnt this put in jeopardy all the libraries that do digital checkout? my local library system does this.

      • Amerikan PharaohEnglish
        5•4 months ago

        Those are usually incredibly expensive licenses bought from the publisher.

        So I was right; this does boil all the way down to “the pissy little capitalist pig publishing houses aren’t getting their kickback so now they’re tantruming”. Fuck it; I’m going back to full-scale pirating anything that wasn’t independently produced and published.

  • Parzivus [any]English
    25•4 months ago

    I mean this was obviously gonna be the result given how copyright works. Not sure why the Internet Archive tried it in the first place. Ultimately you have to rewrite copyright law (lol) or pirate stuff like everyone else

  • EmoThugInMyPhase [he/him]English
    19•4 months ago

    So, what are the consequences if they said fuck it and hosted this in Russia and China? The owners can still be sued, but what if they transferred ownership to an anonymous corporate entity registered in the cayman islands or some shit?

    When will libre people understand that you can’t win against these assholes by going high when they go low?

    • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]English
      5•4 months ago

      AFAIK Chinese piracy is a different culture, its mostly done on private/secret forums not with the same public torrent/archive methods we use. Also I’m confident hosting a website inside China is no simple matter given the regulations, certainly it would be trivial for authorities to notice the foreign traffic.

      Which leads to the final point, the firewall is also to prevent exactly this.

      The CPC isn’t going to act on a shared principle of fuck the west here, on the contrary they’d see hosting western piracy content as a potential threat given it bypasses the firewall.

  • RiotDoll [she/her, she/her]English
    19•4 months ago

    !I wish to encourage everyone to be extremely complacent, happy, and not to seek any sort of punitive vengeance upon the people suing the internet archive. !I want to encourage love, forgiveness, and hope, but not excessive action, lest tomorrow be darkened with the sin of your actions.