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Yes but he looked really cute in that dress
He really did!
fucking jealous is what i am smdh wish i could pull it off that well
is looking really cute in a dress stealing valor?
Fox News about to run a story on this
Does Cloud park in the reserved for veterans parking space?
Cid held on to the handicapped parking pass after Cloud’s time in the wheelchair so he parks the Highwind wherever he wants. It’s ethically questionable but there doesn’t seem to be a lot of other airship traffic or competition for parking spaces so it’s a moot point
I somehow Mandela Effected myself into thinking that the car from FF8 was in FF7 for a hot second lol
Understandable.
In the original at the end of disc 1 you have the stolen Shinra pickup truck minigame after you escape the Shinra building, before the boss on the highway. Then you have the goofy red buggy for a relatively short time on the world map which you forget about as soon as you get your hands on the tiny bronco.
At least that buggy doesn’t have a fuel requirement. Idk who designed the economy in FF8 around hiring a car and needing to pay huge sums to run the damn thing and I’m conflicted about it because as game design it was pretty poor but as anti-car, pro-rail supremacy agitprop it’s pretty great.
FF8 made you pay for your train tickets too, but it also paid you a salary based on how long you played the game which you could increase by taking tests at the academy. I feel like they were trying to give an impression of a modern economy but the idea was only half-baked.
Then you have the goofy red buggy for a relatively short time on the world map which you forget about as soon as you get your hands on the tiny bronco.
Damn, I totally forgot about that thing
as anti-car, pro-rail supremacy agitprop it’s pretty great.
Plus, the Forest Owls have a train base.
If it was cheap and reliable then people would be like “Why isn’t there roads and cars fuggin’ everywhere in this gameworld”. Making it prohibitively expensive and a pain in the ass helps you believe why the human settlements aren’t as interconnected as they would be in a futuristic fantasy world like that I guess
i can’t imagine shinra vets get any benefits, and also cloud is a veteran so if he did that’s still not stolen valor. the real tricky part of this is the claim of being a soldier first class, which wasn’t true but he DID kinda fuse with one and also he very much killed sephiroth that one time
Probably different answers for different “versions” of Cloud, too: Disc 1 Merc Cloud, After the 💔🤺 Cloud, Wheelchair Cloud, End of the Game “Let’s Mosey” Cloud
Yes and its a good thing
He did some identity fraud for sure
is it identity fraud if you genuinely have part of that guys brain in your brain? also i’m not actually sure he did, iirc he was claiming to be cloud strife the whole time
Was it part of his brain or did he just absorb Zach’s memories from the life stream as well as Zach’s fashion sense?
are memories not part of the brain? certainly they’re close enough for a response to a shitpost
Oh, do we want to get into the epistemology of memories? I love doing that! Are memories a part of a brain? Do they physically reshape our brains to store them better? Is memory simply data that can be placed into any brain?
I’m half joking half serious.
nodding thoughtfully. i think it isn’t identity fraud if you have the other guys memories because you remember doing all that stuff and also aren’t claiming to be the guy, just someone with mostly your own past who is very similar to him
Not just his memories. His sword as well.
Mmm. Yes, you’ve raised interesting and thought-provoking epistemological questions to critique the physicalist concept of memory connected to a simplistic positivist worldview. Very well done.
But, have you considered, PISS?
memories are stored in the balls
They are called materia
HOW DID I NEVER CONSIDER PISS!?
I was going to say that it’s not really a fashion sense so much as a uniform but I don’t know if all those gears, cogs, screws, and bangles and shit are standard issue
SOLDIERs seemed to have the freedom to use custom equipment the higher their rank was
It’s weird because he called himself Cloud but the way he acted and dressed and fought were all copied from Zack
yeah but like, that isn’t identity theft, you know? cloud is just kind of a poser and doesn’t realize it
He almost fooled Aerith too
Gaslighting yourself so hard you trick the one person who should know you’re lying
Haven’t played the game in ages, but didn’t Zack and Cloud’s mako mingle? And then Aerith could sense that with her ancient powers or something? Maybe I’m hallucinating plot points
I’ve never played it at all. Does mako mingling mean sex?
Yes.no, they got mad magicscience done to them and their souls got kinda mixed up
as a soldier first class, yes, but unfortunately he still receives the Shinra military discount at the Midgar Costco due to his service in the infantry…
Nah, he could do a back-flip with a sixty pound sword in scene one. That is already so far into the realm of superhuman that he gets a pass. For context in the real world an unreasonably giant sword is 12 pounds. His sword is ast least five times that. Probably more actually. And he can do one handed flourishes with it. That is above Olympian level strength and control. So that goes a long way to establishing he is a super soldier.
Maybe they are on a low gravity planet
It was more like he lied on his resume by pretending to have been a higher rank than he actually was.
I don’t know, but FF7 stole FF6’s valor
nah, they’re different. kafka isn’t that good a villain anyways, sephiroth is better because he’s lame as hell
Everything FF7 does well, FF6 did better, including villains
i really don’t think so. this isn’t nostalgia or anything, i didn’t play either until i was an adult. if nothing else midgar is a way better opening to the game than ff6’s, that’s something i won’t budge on
Okay, fair. That FF7 opening was solid.
But I think the sound samples in FF7 were inferior to SNES MIDI at the time, the polygon graphics were still in a baby state that didn’t hold up as well as late 16bit spritework, and the 4-member parties opened up a bit of flexibility in playstyle.
Also, the minigames in FF6 were integrated so well into the main gameplay loop (aside from a few POV sequences that never really worked).
The story was a bit more cohesive too. With FF7, the story kinda falls apart after the loss of Aeris. FF6 took this portion (in the World of Ruin) to allow you to pursue character arcs to their endpoints but FF7 doesn’t handle itself well one the rails are off.
To me, ff7 was a remarkable achievement in the advancement of next-gen RPG development, and probably the peak of the golden age in terms of cultural impact, but it was a bridge between eras rather than peak final fantasy
i don’t have strong opinions on the sound samples, and i do mostly prefer the sprites. but those prerendered backgrounds are gorgeous, i really love them
and i like the ff7 minigames about as much as the ff6 ones, though i totally get where you’re coming from
Stumbled on this just a minute ago.
Here are a pair of FF7 songs in an SNES soundfont compared to PS original:
Dear to the heart:
SNES:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jNSrHgimnOc
Original PSX: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ixw3nFcQkzIThe high-pitched vibes that kick in are the most glaring issue with the FF7 version. They’re piercing and out of balance.
Tifa’s Theme:
SNES:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dMaYB3vDKB0
Original PSX:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dMaYB3vDKB0&t=153sThis one actually might sound better on PSX at first, but then the melody kicks in and the flute sounds cheap and robotic in the original.
The original compositions were classic Uematsu approaching his absolute peak, but the PSX soundfont overall feels clipped and has cloying overtones.
I wish I could say I like the Remake versions better, but IMO Hamauzu does too much. Here’s that version if you care to hear it: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=seewVC9uwr4&pp=ygULdGlmYXMgdGhlbWU%3D
Granted, that game has a different vibe, so maybe it fits there, but the mood in this cover feels hopeful and revelatory, whereas the Uematsu arrangement is lonely and bittersweet. Hamauzu uas always been better with atmospheric soundtracks as opposed to thematic ones.
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